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2016 Postmortem

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BernieforPres2016

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12. I'm not buying this theory
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 09:44 PM
Mar 2016

Actual Republicans despise Hillary Clinton as much as they do Barack Obama, and she knows it. She will NEVER get their votes. Hillary and the DNC are corporatists who think Bernie supporters have nowhere else to go.

The Lie [View all] H2O Man Mar 2016 OP
At the potential of alienating the LGBT community? No way. Metric System Mar 2016 #1
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #5
She didn't misspeak. NPR just said she meant to reference Alzheimer's Arazi Mar 2016 #23
Yeah, that's my problem with that too. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #41
Yes. She helped hide his declining mental acuity while he was a SITTING PRESIDENT. ebayfool Mar 2016 #128
Seems she still thinks her nomination is inevitable tk2kewl Mar 2016 #143
You clearly don't understand how the Clintons work. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #7
something to be proud of berningman Mar 2016 #11
I agree with you. Once the primary is over, where can they go? Jarqui Mar 2016 #80
I haven't voted for a Clinton since DOMA MNBrewer Mar 2016 #98
Ridiculous. Half of us are voting for Bernie already. DemocraticWing Mar 2016 #119
count one old alienated gay man Lucretius Mar 2016 #94
The Quilt! BallardWA Mar 2016 #114
That makes two of us, Lucretius Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #155
You know that saying about "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #201
Is that like the saying that goes "Scorn me once, shame on me, scorn me twice, and I'll . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #206
I think you're right. daleanime Mar 2016 #2
Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #19
oooooooooooooooooo... cynical. I like it. yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #3
Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2016 #20
I said that in a few earlier posts today so I fully agree Arazi Mar 2016 #4
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #22
she won't get to the mom this way roguevalley Mar 2016 #51
Three of my Hillary-leaning gay friends noiretextatique Mar 2016 #174
Absolutely speaking the language of Compassionate Conservatism. Octafish Mar 2016 #6
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #25
I expect I will watch it on TV stage left Mar 2016 #156
She's miscalculating this time. People will not vote for her as they used to do in the past. They sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #118
I'm in upstate NY bread_and_roses Mar 2016 #138
Hi! I'm seeing Bernie signs up here in the middle of FARMS. In the middle of nowhere! But not a sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #204
"Miscalculating" is a Hillary tradition, bvar22 Mar 2016 #166
Clinton does the best by far in the Confederacy Fumesucker Mar 2016 #8
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #9
her margins there come from BLACK voters bigtree Mar 2016 #14
Where did I use the term "confederates"? Please be specific. Fumesucker Mar 2016 #21
slick bigtree Mar 2016 #26
You made an accusation Fumesucker Mar 2016 #40
Mmm, the "Confederacy" may be just a shorthand way to say "Southern States," malthaussen Mar 2016 #44
as I think about it bigtree Mar 2016 #71
Well, I tend to understatement. malthaussen Mar 2016 #75
It is a perfectly valid predicate to describe a system emerging from feudalism kristopher Mar 2016 #189
Yep, the whole praising of nancy was part of the campaign. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #10
Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #27
I'm not buying this theory BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #12
Some do. H2O Man Mar 2016 #31
You're forgetting her ego. Maedhros Mar 2016 #33
we may be over thinking here. I just think she is stupid here roguevalley Mar 2016 #56
Thats a good point. Mbrow Mar 2016 #91
she hasn't writtten off progressives bigtree Mar 2016 #13
She admitted she was wrong because she got busted tularetom Mar 2016 #24
you mean she was corrected bigtree Mar 2016 #29
She said they PIONEERED a conversation that they... DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #49
she's admitted she was wrong bigtree Mar 2016 #73
She didn't misspeak. She made shit up. MNBrewer Mar 2016 #99
Wrong? That's A Laugh billhicks76 Mar 2016 #116
I really like and respect you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #34
she apologized and reversed her statement, full stop bigtree Mar 2016 #65
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #67
A "sorry I got caught lying" skepticscott Mar 2016 #96
You once said "Sanders' campaign admits to lying their asses off in a fundraising email" and.... Logical Mar 2016 #127
That line about the Reagans being strong advocates for stem cells. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #42
She has yet to clarify their record on HIV and AIDS, she needs to do so. In addition she Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #113
She knew she lied, she just did not plan on being caught so quick. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #126
Yep... WillyT Mar 2016 #15
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #35
That makes a lot of sense, and the retraction and apology FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #16
And this way, she gets to be all things to all people! (Or so she thinks...) reformist2 Mar 2016 #18
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #36
What you say is true but I don't think that's what happened here. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #17
Very good. H2O Man Mar 2016 #38
Oh, sure they do. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #100
republicans will *never* vote for Clinton... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #28
That's simply untrue. H2O Man Mar 2016 #45
That's NY, I guess... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #62
Again, H2O Man Mar 2016 #77
By chance, do you have those 'numbers' from NYS? TheProgressive Mar 2016 #88
Yes but this Primary season druidity33 Mar 2016 #181
Oh, I disagree. malthaussen Mar 2016 #53
I updated my answer below... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #66
Oh sure they will. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #103
A woman who openly embraces war criminal Henry Kissinger farleftlib Mar 2016 #30
Well said. H2O Man Mar 2016 #47
KnR! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #32
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #48
It does at least suggest something she might be hoping to gain. malthaussen Mar 2016 #37
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #52
The difficulty I see with that is... malthaussen Mar 2016 #63
Her attempt at CYA by claiming she was talking about Alzheimers is pathetic. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #39
"Pathetic" H2O Man Mar 2016 #54
I'll add "obvious", and "calculated". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #59
I agree! H2O Man Mar 2016 #61
Aw, c'mon, don't be shy... malthaussen Mar 2016 #69
I think it was just ignorant pandering ibegurpard Mar 2016 #43
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #58
if you're right ibegurpard Mar 2016 #82
Just like Bill praising Nixon and Reagan to the skies at THEIR funerals. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #46
Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #60
She is seriously Old Codger Mar 2016 #50
I agree H2O Man Mar 2016 #64
In another post Old Codger Mar 2016 #70
I have been getting H2O Man Mar 2016 #74
On both sides, be it noted. malthaussen Mar 2016 #84
I put nothing past them, nothing!! haikugal Mar 2016 #78
I don't Old Codger Mar 2016 #121
Agree with you... zentrum Mar 2016 #55
Oh, yes, definitely. H2O Man Mar 2016 #68
Quite astute observation you have about Hil pandering to neocon voters. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #57
Per neocons, see: H2O Man Mar 2016 #72
Yes that is my take also... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #76
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #79
But it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. longship Mar 2016 #81
Because there's nothing ibegurpard Mar 2016 #87
Pretty much my point. It was an unforced error. longship Mar 2016 #90
It was indeed H2O Man Mar 2016 #170
I agree. MuseRider Mar 2016 #83
Scared patients... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #97
Powerful. MuseRider Mar 2016 #104
. TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #107
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #171
I lost an uncle to AIDS. LS_Editor Mar 2016 #85
1986 Kittycat Mar 2016 #129
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #172
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #86
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #173
She just desicrated my boy's grave Lucretius Mar 2016 #89
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #175
I believe Bill encouraged Trump to run in order to weaken Bernie's campaign. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #92
Except that Mr Trump has been making disparaging and threatening noises towards Hillary. malthaussen Mar 2016 #93
Well Trump couldn't very well avoid doing that as he's running in the Republican Primary. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #102
Disparage, yes, in the GE, not the primaries. malthaussen Mar 2016 #106
Bill knows Trump well enough to realize his penchant for bluster, and Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #115
i feel like the original plan was for trump to split the repub vote questionseverything Mar 2016 #148
Interesting. H2O Man Mar 2016 #177
I always thought that Hillary matched up well against Jeb, both were establishment Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #198
The Clintons are past masters at manipulating people and groups. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #95
Right! H2O Man Mar 2016 #178
My pet CT is that Trump is a stalking horse, that stalked too well. HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #101
I agree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #180
Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #105
The west is the best ..... H2O Man Mar 2016 #182
You are a treasure, Mr. Waterman. bunnies Mar 2016 #108
Thanks, bunnies! H2O Man Mar 2016 #183
Oh! I didn't think of that, for one minute, but yes, closeupready Mar 2016 #109
Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2016 #184
A poem HassleCat Mar 2016 #110
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #185
Some of you over think things. Beacool Mar 2016 #111
Do you say that to black people?... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #117
Team Hillary thinks anti gay bigotry is 'different' and they excuse it constantly. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #141
Agreed cemaphonic Mar 2016 #131
"This place always feels like being in sixth grade . . ." Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #134
That comment just stinks, it reeks of contempt for LGBT and your own assumed superior status Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #140
Itīs better then the poster Puglover Mar 2016 #153
I understand the outrage, I get it. Beacool Mar 2016 #169
It is par for the course with her noiretextatique Mar 2016 #176
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #186
This message was self-deleted by its author Sensitive soul Mar 2016 #112
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #187
This is my problem.. Hillary could have said so many nice things mountain grammy Mar 2016 #120
Right. I agree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #188
It's insulting to the memory of a lot of DEAD people too. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #122
And their families. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #123
Yes, indeed. H2O Man Mar 2016 #190
Yes, it does. senseandsensibility Mar 2016 #124
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #191
In other words, Hillary becoming the long-lost "GOP Establishment" candidate Wednesdays Mar 2016 #125
That is an interesting H2O Man Mar 2016 #192
There is a third possibility, perhaps she actually believed the incident occurred. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #130
I guess that it H2O Man Mar 2016 #193
significant parts of the Clinton campaign are planning to get votes from conservative republicans, AlbertCat Mar 2016 #132
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #194
It's' not a lie. It's history evolving! Bernblu Mar 2016 #133
Very good! H2O Man Mar 2016 #195
She may be assured that lost of progressives have written her off after her praise for that Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #135
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #196
She has lost me, I can tell you. I never thought to find myself LEFT of the Democratic party, but Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #200
Bizarre is what I call it. mmonk Mar 2016 #136
Bizarre, it is. H2O Man Mar 2016 #197
Hillary never speaks off script on something like this. She said what she meant to say. Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #137
Absolutely...you can bet her statement had been thoroughly vetted skepticscott Mar 2016 #147
As I have said elsewhere a few times, Hillary is a surrogate Republican pretend to be a Democrat. kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #139
K&R Zorra Mar 2016 #142
Yes. Hillary will be far easier to 'work' with than Bernie lunatica Mar 2016 #144
the calculation seems to be that all of us to the Left of her will have no choice GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #145
That seems to be the case, when the AIDS comment is combined with claiming Kissinger as an adviser Babel_17 Mar 2016 #146
A disturbing history of exaggeration and outright falsehoods ... Auggie Mar 2016 #149
Clinton supposedy lost Michigan in part because her peeps crossed over to vote (R). merrily Mar 2016 #150
Good post as usual ladjf Mar 2016 #151
i'm beginning to think the clintons have political alzheimers veronique25 Mar 2016 #152
Sad K&R. But your March 1 post makes sense too... I hope Bernie wins a few more primaries and can Overseas Mar 2016 #154
I think it would besafe to conclude and argue that the "lie" stupidicus Mar 2016 #157
The Lie was for Millennials who are too young to remember. PADemD Mar 2016 #158
+1 nt stage left Mar 2016 #168
Nobody plays both sides of an issue better than Hillary jack_krass Mar 2016 #203
Sec. Clinton deserves a break on this one, seriously... jack_krass Mar 2016 #159
lol! political alzheimers, clinton-style veronique25 Mar 2016 #165
No one deserve a break on this Geronimoe Mar 2016 #199
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #160
I don't know if dem leadership has decided they can win without the left or CrispyQ Mar 2016 #161
Hillary lying? Nickel79 Mar 2016 #162
There's Something In The Air...K&R bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #163
I believe that has long been the plan. Trump may well be a Clinton invention. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #164
At our county assembly today randr Mar 2016 #167
Do you think Clinton supporters would be excusing Bernie? noiretextatique Mar 2016 #179
Sometimes the veil is pulled back... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #202
Talked with young people yesterday. They see through this. nt kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #205
kick for refreshing memory kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #207
k&r Electric Monk Mar 2016 #208
yes; and there is even an article amborin Mar 2016 #209
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