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2016 Postmortem

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The Lie [View all] H2O Man Mar 2016 OP
At the potential of alienating the LGBT community? No way. Metric System Mar 2016 #1
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #5
She didn't misspeak. NPR just said she meant to reference Alzheimer's Arazi Mar 2016 #23
Yeah, that's my problem with that too. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #41
Yes. She helped hide his declining mental acuity while he was a SITTING PRESIDENT. ebayfool Mar 2016 #128
Seems she still thinks her nomination is inevitable tk2kewl Mar 2016 #143
You clearly don't understand how the Clintons work. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #7
something to be proud of berningman Mar 2016 #11
I agree with you. Once the primary is over, where can they go? Jarqui Mar 2016 #80
I haven't voted for a Clinton since DOMA MNBrewer Mar 2016 #98
Ridiculous. Half of us are voting for Bernie already. DemocraticWing Mar 2016 #119
count one old alienated gay man Lucretius Mar 2016 #94
The Quilt! BallardWA Mar 2016 #114
That makes two of us, Lucretius Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #155
You know that saying about "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #201
Is that like the saying that goes "Scorn me once, shame on me, scorn me twice, and I'll . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #206
I think you're right. daleanime Mar 2016 #2
Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #19
oooooooooooooooooo... cynical. I like it. yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #3
Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2016 #20
I said that in a few earlier posts today so I fully agree Arazi Mar 2016 #4
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #22
she won't get to the mom this way roguevalley Mar 2016 #51
Three of my Hillary-leaning gay friends noiretextatique Mar 2016 #174
Absolutely speaking the language of Compassionate Conservatism. Octafish Mar 2016 #6
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #25
I expect I will watch it on TV stage left Mar 2016 #156
She's miscalculating this time. People will not vote for her as they used to do in the past. They sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #118
I'm in upstate NY bread_and_roses Mar 2016 #138
Hi! I'm seeing Bernie signs up here in the middle of FARMS. In the middle of nowhere! But not a sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #204
"Miscalculating" is a Hillary tradition, bvar22 Mar 2016 #166
Clinton does the best by far in the Confederacy Fumesucker Mar 2016 #8
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #9
her margins there come from BLACK voters bigtree Mar 2016 #14
Where did I use the term "confederates"? Please be specific. Fumesucker Mar 2016 #21
slick bigtree Mar 2016 #26
You made an accusation Fumesucker Mar 2016 #40
Mmm, the "Confederacy" may be just a shorthand way to say "Southern States," malthaussen Mar 2016 #44
as I think about it bigtree Mar 2016 #71
Well, I tend to understatement. malthaussen Mar 2016 #75
It is a perfectly valid predicate to describe a system emerging from feudalism kristopher Mar 2016 #189
Yep, the whole praising of nancy was part of the campaign. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #10
Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #27
I'm not buying this theory BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #12
Some do. H2O Man Mar 2016 #31
You're forgetting her ego. Maedhros Mar 2016 #33
we may be over thinking here. I just think she is stupid here roguevalley Mar 2016 #56
Thats a good point. Mbrow Mar 2016 #91
she hasn't writtten off progressives bigtree Mar 2016 #13
She admitted she was wrong because she got busted tularetom Mar 2016 #24
you mean she was corrected bigtree Mar 2016 #29
She said they PIONEERED a conversation that they... DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #49
she's admitted she was wrong bigtree Mar 2016 #73
She didn't misspeak. She made shit up. MNBrewer Mar 2016 #99
Wrong? That's A Laugh billhicks76 Mar 2016 #116
I really like and respect you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #34
she apologized and reversed her statement, full stop bigtree Mar 2016 #65
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #67
A "sorry I got caught lying" skepticscott Mar 2016 #96
You once said "Sanders' campaign admits to lying their asses off in a fundraising email" and.... Logical Mar 2016 #127
That line about the Reagans being strong advocates for stem cells. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #42
She has yet to clarify their record on HIV and AIDS, she needs to do so. In addition she Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #113
She knew she lied, she just did not plan on being caught so quick. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #126
Yep... WillyT Mar 2016 #15
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #35
That makes a lot of sense, and the retraction and apology FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #16
And this way, she gets to be all things to all people! (Or so she thinks...) reformist2 Mar 2016 #18
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #36
What you say is true but I don't think that's what happened here. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #17
Very good. H2O Man Mar 2016 #38
Oh, sure they do. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #100
republicans will *never* vote for Clinton... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #28
That's simply untrue. H2O Man Mar 2016 #45
That's NY, I guess... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #62
Again, H2O Man Mar 2016 #77
By chance, do you have those 'numbers' from NYS? TheProgressive Mar 2016 #88
Yes but this Primary season druidity33 Mar 2016 #181
Oh, I disagree. malthaussen Mar 2016 #53
I updated my answer below... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #66
Oh sure they will. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #103
A woman who openly embraces war criminal Henry Kissinger farleftlib Mar 2016 #30
Well said. H2O Man Mar 2016 #47
KnR! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #32
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #48
It does at least suggest something she might be hoping to gain. malthaussen Mar 2016 #37
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #52
The difficulty I see with that is... malthaussen Mar 2016 #63
Her attempt at CYA by claiming she was talking about Alzheimers is pathetic. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #39
"Pathetic" H2O Man Mar 2016 #54
I'll add "obvious", and "calculated". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #59
I agree! H2O Man Mar 2016 #61
Aw, c'mon, don't be shy... malthaussen Mar 2016 #69
I think it was just ignorant pandering ibegurpard Mar 2016 #43
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #58
if you're right ibegurpard Mar 2016 #82
Just like Bill praising Nixon and Reagan to the skies at THEIR funerals. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #46
Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #60
She is seriously Old Codger Mar 2016 #50
I agree H2O Man Mar 2016 #64
In another post Old Codger Mar 2016 #70
I have been getting H2O Man Mar 2016 #74
On both sides, be it noted. malthaussen Mar 2016 #84
I put nothing past them, nothing!! haikugal Mar 2016 #78
I don't Old Codger Mar 2016 #121
Agree with you... zentrum Mar 2016 #55
Oh, yes, definitely. H2O Man Mar 2016 #68
Quite astute observation you have about Hil pandering to neocon voters. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #57
Per neocons, see: H2O Man Mar 2016 #72
Yes that is my take also... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #76
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #79
But it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. longship Mar 2016 #81
Because there's nothing ibegurpard Mar 2016 #87
Pretty much my point. It was an unforced error. longship Mar 2016 #90
It was indeed H2O Man Mar 2016 #170
I agree. MuseRider Mar 2016 #83
Scared patients... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #97
Powerful. MuseRider Mar 2016 #104
. TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #107
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #171
I lost an uncle to AIDS. LS_Editor Mar 2016 #85
1986 Kittycat Mar 2016 #129
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #172
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #86
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #173
She just desicrated my boy's grave Lucretius Mar 2016 #89
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #175
I believe Bill encouraged Trump to run in order to weaken Bernie's campaign. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #92
Except that Mr Trump has been making disparaging and threatening noises towards Hillary. malthaussen Mar 2016 #93
Well Trump couldn't very well avoid doing that as he's running in the Republican Primary. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #102
Disparage, yes, in the GE, not the primaries. malthaussen Mar 2016 #106
Bill knows Trump well enough to realize his penchant for bluster, and Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #115
i feel like the original plan was for trump to split the repub vote questionseverything Mar 2016 #148
Interesting. H2O Man Mar 2016 #177
I always thought that Hillary matched up well against Jeb, both were establishment Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #198
The Clintons are past masters at manipulating people and groups. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #95
Right! H2O Man Mar 2016 #178
My pet CT is that Trump is a stalking horse, that stalked too well. HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #101
I agree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #180
Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #105
The west is the best ..... H2O Man Mar 2016 #182
You are a treasure, Mr. Waterman. bunnies Mar 2016 #108
Thanks, bunnies! H2O Man Mar 2016 #183
Oh! I didn't think of that, for one minute, but yes, closeupready Mar 2016 #109
Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2016 #184
A poem HassleCat Mar 2016 #110
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #185
Some of you over think things. Beacool Mar 2016 #111
Do you say that to black people?... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #117
Team Hillary thinks anti gay bigotry is 'different' and they excuse it constantly. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #141
Agreed cemaphonic Mar 2016 #131
"This place always feels like being in sixth grade . . ." Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #134
That comment just stinks, it reeks of contempt for LGBT and your own assumed superior status Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #140
Itīs better then the poster Puglover Mar 2016 #153
I understand the outrage, I get it. Beacool Mar 2016 #169
It is par for the course with her noiretextatique Mar 2016 #176
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #186
This message was self-deleted by its author Sensitive soul Mar 2016 #112
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #187
This is my problem.. Hillary could have said so many nice things mountain grammy Mar 2016 #120
Right. I agree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #188
It's insulting to the memory of a lot of DEAD people too. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #122
And their families. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #123
Yes, indeed. H2O Man Mar 2016 #190
Yes, it does. senseandsensibility Mar 2016 #124
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #191
In other words, Hillary becoming the long-lost "GOP Establishment" candidate Wednesdays Mar 2016 #125
That is an interesting H2O Man Mar 2016 #192
There is a third possibility, perhaps she actually believed the incident occurred. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #130
I guess that it H2O Man Mar 2016 #193
significant parts of the Clinton campaign are planning to get votes from conservative republicans, AlbertCat Mar 2016 #132
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #194
It's' not a lie. It's history evolving! Bernblu Mar 2016 #133
Very good! H2O Man Mar 2016 #195
She may be assured that lost of progressives have written her off after her praise for that Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #135
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #196
She has lost me, I can tell you. I never thought to find myself LEFT of the Democratic party, but Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #200
Bizarre is what I call it. mmonk Mar 2016 #136
Bizarre, it is. H2O Man Mar 2016 #197
Hillary never speaks off script on something like this. She said what she meant to say. Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #137
Absolutely...you can bet her statement had been thoroughly vetted skepticscott Mar 2016 #147
As I have said elsewhere a few times, Hillary is a surrogate Republican pretend to be a Democrat. kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #139
K&R Zorra Mar 2016 #142
Yes. Hillary will be far easier to 'work' with than Bernie lunatica Mar 2016 #144
the calculation seems to be that all of us to the Left of her will have no choice GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #145
That seems to be the case, when the AIDS comment is combined with claiming Kissinger as an adviser Babel_17 Mar 2016 #146
A disturbing history of exaggeration and outright falsehoods ... Auggie Mar 2016 #149
Clinton supposedy lost Michigan in part because her peeps crossed over to vote (R). merrily Mar 2016 #150
Good post as usual ladjf Mar 2016 #151
i'm beginning to think the clintons have political alzheimers veronique25 Mar 2016 #152
Sad K&R. But your March 1 post makes sense too... I hope Bernie wins a few more primaries and can Overseas Mar 2016 #154
I think it would besafe to conclude and argue that the "lie" stupidicus Mar 2016 #157
The Lie was for Millennials who are too young to remember. PADemD Mar 2016 #158
+1 nt stage left Mar 2016 #168
Nobody plays both sides of an issue better than Hillary jack_krass Mar 2016 #203
Sec. Clinton deserves a break on this one, seriously... jack_krass Mar 2016 #159
lol! political alzheimers, clinton-style veronique25 Mar 2016 #165
No one deserve a break on this Geronimoe Mar 2016 #199
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #160
I don't know if dem leadership has decided they can win without the left or CrispyQ Mar 2016 #161
Hillary lying? Nickel79 Mar 2016 #162
There's Something In The Air...K&R bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #163
I believe that has long been the plan. Trump may well be a Clinton invention. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #164
At our county assembly today randr Mar 2016 #167
Do you think Clinton supporters would be excusing Bernie? noiretextatique Mar 2016 #179
Sometimes the veil is pulled back... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #202
Talked with young people yesterday. They see through this. nt kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #205
kick for refreshing memory kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #207
k&r Electric Monk Mar 2016 #208
yes; and there is even an article amborin Mar 2016 #209
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