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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
66. Because she know what it is like to lose
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

I lived in Arkansas from 1976-1984 so my knowledge of the Clintons goes back further than most peoples. She was taking all kinds of shit even back then...too liberal, a Yankee, did not change her name when she married Bill. In fact, after winning the Governor's office in 1978, Bill lost it in 1980 and Hillary keeping her maiden name was a big issue. So she legally took Bill's name, which played a role in his win in the 1982 race. But there are probably those on DU who consider her changing her name as at total sellout and not at all progressive. Even though it can be argued that had she not have done so, he would not have been re-elected and thus never served as President.

Anyway, she was blasted by the republicans and the media the entire time Bill was Governor. Then not long after he was elected President he placed her in charge of healthcare reform. And she came up with a plan that was way more progressive than the ACA. Everyone would have been covered and for the low income it would have been free. Pretty much what everyone here wants. And guess what? It crashed and burned. With an all Democratic congress. Hillary did what all the progressives on this site want, she did not compromised, pushed for the perfect solution and got NOTHING. So yeah, she learned it is better to compromise and get some of what you want that live on principle and get nothings. Most of us learn that lesson as we age.

She was the original punching bag of Right Wing talk radio which was reaching the height of it influence. I know that because at the time I was a republican and listened to it. And she has been trashed by them ever sense in the most mean and tasteless way. So much so that those talking points oozed into the general consensus influencing even many of our progressive friends. That's 40 years of taking rightwing shit. It is truly unprecedented.

I only recently joined DU and some of the posts about Hillary make me double check that I am not on a rightwing site. Hillary is not perfect, but she has spent her life working on issues which affect women and children. And I again add, she is the only public figure who in the past pushed a truly progressive healthcare plan.

I know feelings are running high. I like both Democratic candidates and will vote for either of them in the GE. Those of you who have stated you will not vote for Hillary in the GE need to be prepared to do 2 things. First, cancel you DU membership as you will be in violation of the Terms of Service. And second, several month into a Trump presidency when he is acting like the dictator he clearly is, keep your pie hole shut and do not complain. Because you will be part of the reason he is in office.

I don't trust Hillary. At all. bigwillq Mar 2016 #1
She is a silent homophobe, and I am done voting for homophobes. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #47
why restrict the explanation to your age group? 0rganism Mar 2016 #2
You shouldn't, no matter what your age group. enough Mar 2016 #3
No one should trust her Kalidurga Mar 2016 #4
Is Hillary more untrustworthy than Bill? Really? 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #58
You have a point, they are a team... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #65
You shouldn't... choie Mar 2016 #5
There is no way MuseRider Mar 2016 #6
I want the Hillary supporters to answer forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #7
Getting outvoted isn't shoving her down your throat mythology Mar 2016 #39
Getting outvoted through fair means would be one thing. The MSM - with the help of DSW and her Cal33 Mar 2016 #55
You may be right. Maedhros Mar 2016 #76
Guess what? You can vote for who your choose. leftofcool Mar 2016 #60
If she gets the nom you should viote for her...Trust her? Meh Armstead Mar 2016 #8
No one should trust her no matter what age group they fall into. SamKnause Mar 2016 #9
In my opinion you shouldn't....no one making under $100k should. yourout Mar 2016 #10
Good luck with this. gcomeau Mar 2016 #11
I can't. You shouldn't. She isn't. Barack_America Mar 2016 #12
What is your age group? LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #13
The U.S. is not a dictatorship BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #14
I agree. Bernie doesn't seem to realize that Presidents aren't Kings. laureloak Mar 2016 #75
You don't have to trust she's the best candidate; she's the nominee whether you like her or not. Lil Missy Mar 2016 #15
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #18
What makes you think it's okay to say something like that? JTFrog Mar 2016 #35
I don't like her SheenaR Mar 2016 #50
In November there will be a FEW nominees Shadowflash Mar 2016 #54
But she is not the nominee until the convention... coyote Mar 2016 #73
Maybe because you haven't been engaged in politics or voting long enough to really know Jitter65 Mar 2016 #16
lol forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #23
Obama is about the same place on the political spectrum as Clinton Armstead Mar 2016 #25
Do not trust her, she is a trap. Need to look ahead for your future. kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #17
I don't think you should mooseprime Mar 2016 #19
You are wrong. lapfog_1 Mar 2016 #56
I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about what she has accomplished, PWPippin Mar 2016 #20
I wouldn't, and I don't dana_b Mar 2016 #21
I could tell you .... calguy Mar 2016 #22
So just becasue a progressive lost 40 years ago forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #24
No, not at all calguy Mar 2016 #30
Nobody said anything about refusing to vote forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #37
I'm 63 and I don't accept it Armstead Mar 2016 #34
What's your age group? itsrobert Mar 2016 #26
Hillary Clinton Is You-With 40 Years of Hard Earned Experience Stallion Mar 2016 #27
And why don't liberals and social democrats win elections? forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #31
I'm a History Major and Political Junkie Stallion Mar 2016 #36
I asked *why* don't they win forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #38
If You're Young He's Why: Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #28
She's not the best candidate for progressive change, but ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #29
African Americans don't know much about Bernie; Hillary & Bill have TheDormouse Mar 2016 #40
What ???????? Onlooker Mar 2016 #46
I talk to my relatives, who are African American, who are not on the internet & don't watch TheDormouse Mar 2016 #70
Yeah, so some people know Bernie ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #72
the argument that u should vote for a woman BECAUSE she is a woman TheDormouse Mar 2016 #44
A case could be made ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #48
No. XRubicon Mar 2016 #32
You shouldn't rock Mar 2016 #33
Don't! Grow your own leader, and save us from the pending shitstorm Kittycat Mar 2016 #41
You shouldn't. Chan790 Mar 2016 #42
I'm in the 65 age group and I trust her not at all. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #43
Anyone of any age who trusts Hillary is a little nutty in one way or another Doctor_J Mar 2016 #45
She will be the nominee Demsrule86 Mar 2016 #49
"She will be the nominee" desmiller Mar 2016 #51
This doesn't answer the original question revbones Mar 2016 #53
I'm not going to say anything about Hillary. I'll say that I hope you stay engaged with politics femmedem Mar 2016 #52
If it makes you feel better lots of people in my age group don't trust her either. jillan Mar 2016 #57
No trust involved. Just no Trump. Lint Head Mar 2016 #59
Why would you trust someone you don't know? I don't get it. randome Mar 2016 #61
At best, four more years of things not getting (much) worse. alarimer Mar 2016 #62
It's not about the person. Basic LA Mar 2016 #63
Trust her to what? darkwing Mar 2016 #64
Because she know what it is like to lose GulfCoast66 Mar 2016 #66
Great post and welcome./nt DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #67
This is the best response. darkwing Mar 2016 #68
My 2 millennials will vote for Jill Stein if it's not Bernie riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #69
Are You Voting RobinA Mar 2016 #71
Because she is trustworthy. laureloak Mar 2016 #74
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