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spooky3

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96. I agree with you. The people who support Trump now
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

Are not going to vote for Clinton no matter what. She'll lose 10-25% of the electorate no matter what. Converting them is not her goal.

She simply needs to make her case to the reasonable people in the electorate and give them a good reason to vote. And we all know there are many of those.

Sanders is a far worthier debate opponent than Trump. I have no doubt she will withstand any "challenge" Trump could possibly dream up.

I am not so sure the Democratic Party will continue drifting rightward. femmedem Mar 2016 #1
My take is that while young progressives won't give up on their views... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #2
I think Donald Trump could be considered the splinter party on the right. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #26
Perhaps so. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #27
Aren't the Dems the "alternative conservative party"now? villager Mar 2016 #78
That's a very good point. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #82
That's exactly it. No substantial choices to the left of center-right villager Mar 2016 #83
I think you answered your own question Fairgo Mar 2016 #122
I'm a little weary of this narrative. I was once a young progressive... LisaM Mar 2016 #114
What I am seeing is a very serious party realighment nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #121
Democrats are only 29% of the electorate anymore. Independents 43% riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #139
Your daughter gets it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #144
"I have seen a lot of advances - albeit more slowly than I'd have liked" passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #159
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #12
They won't even vote, much less identify with the party. Why would they? Doctor_J Mar 2016 #19
That is the other possibility, for sure. femmedem Mar 2016 #24
I believe it will - why? Money and the elite class rurallib Mar 2016 #29
It will. gcomeau Mar 2016 #71
I did the math on several models today SheenaR Mar 2016 #3
Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #10
Sanders still hasn't won a major urban area in a primary alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author SheenaR Mar 2016 #18
Excellent post... SidDithers Mar 2016 #48
I don't know why I took you off my ignore list Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author TransitJohn Mar 2016 #172
I would guess they are waiting for post-results surveys DrDan Mar 2016 #46
I'm tired of the math. I don't think that is his aim - he's an agent of change and he's staying in. snowy owl Mar 2016 #162
Trump is going dooooown! JaneyVee Mar 2016 #4
+1 nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #6
To DC floriduck Mar 2016 #63
You wish. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #150
Too many people are blinded by partisanship and the "My Way is the Only Way", in this country to -none Mar 2016 #5
I'm not giving up on Bernie. Cleita Mar 2016 #7
Oh please don't nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #14
Young people wanted Sanders. Hissyspit Mar 2016 #8
If young people really want systemic change... Adrahil Mar 2016 #20
^^^ THIS ^^^^ n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #31
It has been tried zalinda Mar 2016 #90
Exactly! Spazito Mar 2016 #60
If young people really want systemic change... AlbertCat Mar 2016 #70
And that's the elephant in the room Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #74
Correct. Clinton wouldn't have stood a chance in anything resembling a fair primary election. [nt] Coincidence Mar 2016 #80
How about they actively involve themselves in the process Buzz cook Mar 2016 #84
How about they actively involve themselves in the process AlbertCat Mar 2016 #117
Locally the kids have triied, nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #126
I mean Buzz cook Mar 2016 #165
And let's not forget the big money d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #146
That's an excuse. Adrahil Mar 2016 #158
Are you serious? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #164
Kind of hard when the Establishment frustates all grass-roots activism. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #168
Exactly. They need to learn they need to WORK for a goal. There are no Participation Trophies in beaglelover Mar 2016 #170
She will destroy Trump oberliner Mar 2016 #9
Bingo n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #32
There are not enough angry white males to get Trump elected. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #118
"democrats are about to nominate the weakest candidate" BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #11
Thanks Hillary supporter for your perspective n/t SheenaR Mar 2016 #16
Thanks for your ridiculous assumption that I am a "Hillary supporter". nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #33
Assumption? SheenaR Mar 2016 #36
You checked my "recs" BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #38
It's common practice SheenaR Mar 2016 #43
I am a Barack Obama supporter BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #52
Funny how so many repeat disruptors JTFrog Mar 2016 #124
Yes. Those who discourage us ARE Hill supporters. senz Mar 2016 #120
I support almost all of Bernie's positions BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #127
Two things. senz Mar 2016 #140
ONE thing BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #145
Not true, BumRushDaShow. senz Mar 2016 #161
You can keep justifying it all you want BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #167
Am not going to argue or take the bait nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #17
Sorry your candidate lost last night. zappaman Mar 2016 #21
My candidate, now that was FUNNY nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #22
right, you aren't partisan for either side, uh huh still_one Mar 2016 #25
Nope. zappaman Mar 2016 #35
... Yup. Agschmid Mar 2016 #55
"Am not going to argue or take the bait" BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #37
That is called analysis nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #40
Ahh... the low information schtick BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #47
Nope, just a different model of media nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #49
I'm afraid that the "victimhood-card" is yours BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #54
You are the one using the usual terms, not me nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #56
So you are still deflecting from my question BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #62
The poster is in the tank for Bernie CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #89
I am sorry that you also cannot recognize what once was done in US press nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #99
I'm not sure I follow you CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #103
Ok let's unpack this nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #108
... CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #137
I think I love you! displacedtexan Mar 2016 #149
What candidate Obama had was a well run organization that grew as the GE approached. peace13 Mar 2016 #104
"He did not have the baggage of some of today's candidates." BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #116
We both have different perceptions of how it went down. peace13 Mar 2016 #141
My perception is at a higher level BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #147
Guilt? No... peace13 Mar 2016 #153
Unfortunately BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #155
Like all important firsts.. peace13 Mar 2016 #156
Agree BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #157
Fortunately for Hillary, both parties are nominating their weakest candidates lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #171
None of this addresses the original assertion BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #173
TPTB WANT the Democratic Party to split in order to split the left. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #13
I'm afraid you are right. I'm not speaking for myself mmonk Mar 2016 #23
Voting in RIGGED in this country for the elitist bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #28
Clinton has withstood repug bashing for 25 years and is still standing brush Mar 2016 #30
I agree with you. The people who support Trump now spooky3 Mar 2016 #96
Sanders has lost more elections than Clinton has been in. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #34
How many elections has HRC been in? I know of 2 GummyBearz Mar 2016 #72
You didn't refute my point in one single way. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #88
I think she will easily defeat that POS. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #39
OMG- she "even got angry"?!?!?! Well, let's burn her at the stake, cause she stole his schtick! bettyellen Mar 2016 #41
Your hyperbole, not mine nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #42
I don't see an issue with "she got angry", I think it is laughably sexist. SMH bettyellen Mar 2016 #44
Ah there goes another attempt at a bait nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #57
Nope. Bernie was adored for being "angry" but a woman? Well, that is still beyond the pale according bettyellen Mar 2016 #58
Nope, not taking the bait nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #59
You said that the fact that she showed anger made her weak. Yet everyone else is allowed to. Bull. bettyellen Mar 2016 #61
Nope you are having a hard time making that case nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #64
you welcomed me to your list 4-5 times already, Nadin. But it's okay for you to be angry too! bettyellen Mar 2016 #67
Boom. zappaman Mar 2016 #119
well that's all good and well however when it comes to the GE azurnoir Mar 2016 #45
So why DON'T you want to bother us with the story 'we' just ran? randome Mar 2016 #50
No need mostly nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #51
No fava beans? Raster Mar 2016 #53
Even assuming a Clinton nomination, these insurgent candidacies are bound to spur realignment. Marr Mar 2016 #65
Yup, one I predicted over a decade ago nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #66
I Think It Comes Down to a Few Factors SDJay Mar 2016 #68
I await the split... SoapBox Mar 2016 #69
She is the most effective GOTV motivator the GOP will ever have. Myrina Mar 2016 #75
Hillary supporters don't even realize when they vote for Hillary they A Simple Game Mar 2016 #76
Far more technical about this nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #77
I hate it when you're right. white_wolf Mar 2016 #79
Hey I am not telling anybody to fall in line nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #81
Nadin.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #85
I was thinking Mondale personally nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #87
Yes it would... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #101
Interesting tea leaves nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #102
Agree...but for the GOP LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #105
Add to the mix the democrats who will massively cross over nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #109
BINGO!!! LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #111
Hey can't wait nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #112
No, They Can't.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #113
And I think he is under estimating Trumpism nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #115
Probably so... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #123
I know nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #125
A strange thing happened while I was waiting to vote in Ohio PFunk1 Mar 2016 #86
We heard these stories thoguhout nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #92
We are on a glide path to 3 (or even 4) Parties in the near future... Moostache Mar 2016 #91
I agree, but for this to be viable nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #94
The Crisis is near... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #130
It tickles... nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #131
And Politics is a Sport... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #133
Well to me it is deadly serious nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #134
It will become interesting with what the NY Times did with the story about Bernie. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #93
That was full on propaganda nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #95
So correct. 24 states still will vote. Their vote in the primary jwirr Mar 2016 #97
Do not misundersdand I do analysis nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #98
K&R jwirr Mar 2016 #100
Then what does it say about Sanders' strength as a candidate seeing how he has Trust Buster Mar 2016 #106
BS. Bernie was a longshot from the beginning, and remains a long shot magical thyme Mar 2016 #107
Am I telling you to fall in? NOPE, nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #110
He will be and he'll be bargaining with Hillary who needs his endorsement. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #128
And that is why people here want him to drop nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #129
I'm a Hillary supporter. Bernie should stay in the race. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #135
Very much agreed nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #136
Cool. I'm not bothering with it either so we have that in common! zappaman Mar 2016 #132
You're probably too dumb to understand the analysis anyway CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #138
The analysis is there, you just have to Google it and stop being DUMB! randome Mar 2016 #151
I like mine served that way too, though I'll have a nice glass of port if you please. :) 2banon Mar 2016 #142
It's already started nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #143
It is much more than net neutrality, Hillary will be the Democratic President who presides over TumbleAndJumble Mar 2016 #148
Hillary Clinton is the STRONGEST Democratic candidate in decades. Metric System Mar 2016 #152
lolz obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #154
bookmarked demtenjeep Mar 2016 #160
I am taking those odds nadin. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #163
Hillary isn't the weakest candidate, Bernie is. That's just the facts. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #166
Where did your story run? I'd love to read it! beaglelover Mar 2016 #169
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