2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: American Revolution (Phase Two) [View all]bigtree
(85,975 posts)...you keep positing that supporters hold different values than Hillary supporters. Not having the ability to actually determine the values of Hillary supporters, you've supplanted those with your own broad-brush version of their view of the 'establishment' and concluded there's some undue fealty to this nebulous foe (a fight which has, so far, focused on little more than denouncing any and all who dare associate themselves with Clinton).
I find a political revolution (especially a clumsy, ill-conceived, and opportunistic one like Sanders') in the ebbing wake of a successful two-term Democratic presidency to be the height of political hubris. This campaign has all the hallmarks of Sander's decades-long arms-length treatment of the Democratic party, complete with the premise that only Sanders could possibly care about the progressive ideals he represents.
Thing is, political change involves much more than just agitating for it. In order to advance those ideals and initiatives through our democratic system of governance, we are challenged to form coalitions of support within and without the legislative arena. While most here might well agree with Sanders' platform, there is a gap in belief that he's the right person to make those a reality.
It doesn't take any deep digging to find that rationale among Hillary's supporters. It's a wonder why anyone would develop a line of reasoning which envelops citizens with no more influence than the next candidate supporter with the worst that's been projected on the candidate herself. What's the value in that? It's a false projection, on its face, given the obvious diversity of opinion and interest among us.
No Hillary supporter here is 'afraid' or 'confused' about their choice, and Sanders supporters don't own progressiveness. And we're just as much patriots as anyone. That you would make an analogy between loyalty to King George and independence...smh.