2016 Postmortem

merrily

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1. She has never referred to herself as a liberal and I have never referred to her as one.

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:46 PM

Mar 2016

Why on earth would I?

BTW, Al From wrote in his book that he got tired of the DLC, which Bill and Hillary helped found, being called the conservative DLC. So, he deliberately named the Progressive Policy Institute "Progressive," figuring no one would labeling it the conservative Progressive Policy Institute. IOW, he deliberately misused "progressive" so it no longer had meaning.

The lesson we can all learn from From and the rest of the DLC types: labeling yourself or your institution "progressive" does mean you are progressive, nor does it make you progressive. All it means is that you misused the word, and probably intentionally and for a self serving reason.

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Hillary: Don't call me a "Liberal" [View all] TheDormouse Mar 2016 OP

She has never referred to herself as a liberal and I have never referred to her as one. merrily Mar 2016 #1

"She has never ..." -- well, why not? If 'there's nothing wrong' with the word? Why not? nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #3

You would have to ask her. I try hard not to pretend I can read minds. merrily Mar 2016 #5

3rd way wants to kill the liberal brand. nt kristopher Mar 2016 #31

When you can't meet the criteria, change the definition. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #12

I wouldn't dream of it. Autumn Mar 2016 #2

You want I should kick your progressive ass, Autumn? merrily Mar 2016 #7

Pretty please? I think I need it. Autumn Mar 2016 #8

Nah. I'm all talk. I just wanted to strike terror into your heart. merrily Mar 2016 #9

You did have me terrified Autumn Mar 2016 #16

Bernie Is The Only Antidote To Rampant DNC DWS DLC HRC Third-Way Corporatist Corruption cantbeserious Mar 2016 #4

Where did she say "Dont call me a liberal" Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #6

It's implied. She corrected Matthews when he called her a liberal--and she was RIGHT so to do. merrily Mar 2016 #18

How about a Blue Dog? Downwinder Mar 2016 #10

The red arrow sets the direction. merrily Mar 2016 #17

I am a proud socialist. libtodeath Mar 2016 #11

Democratic Socialist countries are among the happiest in the world. Th eUS is not. merrily Mar 2016 #20

Me too! Hydra Mar 2016 #44

I like to say "progressive." In the same sense that Nixon liked to say "peace loving". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #13

rofl TheDormouse Mar 2016 #14

Well, he was a Quaker. Maybe a QINO? merrily Mar 2016 #21

Hey, I recognize an identity crisis when I see one. Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #15

Exactly. And please see post 32 further down in this thread. hedda_foil Mar 2016 #33

I've never called her a liberal Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #19

The title is super misleading.... qdouble Mar 2016 #22

How would you write the title? TheDormouse Mar 2016 #23

and while we're at it, when did Hillary say that she wants to avoid the so-called negative TheDormouse Mar 2016 #24

Negative connotations the Democrats colluded with GOP to denigrate the values behind it Armstead Mar 2016 #28

:/ Go Vols Mar 2016 #25

This post needs a thread of its own. -none Mar 2016 #26

"I will pick up that word and wear it as a badge of honor.'' Octafish Mar 2016 #34

That makes me sick -- The DLC/Corporate Democrats are CONSERVATIVES, including the Clintons Armstead Mar 2016 #27

Liberal or Progressive? She's NEITHER. John Poet Mar 2016 #29

Oh, don't worry Hillary. We won't. vi5 Mar 2016 #30

Progressive doesn't mean liberal in its current usage. It's a DLC reinvention of the word. hedda_foil Mar 2016 #32

Agree Go Vols Mar 2016 #37

Really? I kno he said Nixon was more liberal than him. But REAGAN? TheDormouse Mar 2016 #42

I stand corrected, Go Vols Mar 2016 #46

smh - I wonder does he really view himself that way, or was he just posturing or making a point? TheDormouse Mar 2016 #47

Nice post. Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #38

Thank you, BB. hedda_foil Mar 2016 #39

Me: Don't call me a "Hillary voter." Nedsdag Mar 2016 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #36

She's called herself a progressive, a liberal, a moderate. All depends on who the crowd is that day. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #40

Exactly. She could be expounding on the best popcorn variety, for closeupready Mar 2016 #48

"Progressively give more PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #41

Partial truth, she's not a progressive either. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #43

Karl Rove and Newt Gingrich made "liberal" a dirty word in the '90s; I watched it happen. Hekate Mar 2016 #45

Don't worry. I won't ibegurpard Mar 2016 #49

Interesting thing, Bernie has said he is a progressive not a liberal--but he meant it TheDormouse Apr 2016 #50

Hillary a Progressive...hillarious! check this chart out... berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #51

She pleads guilty to being moderate, centrist nt TheDormouse Apr 2016 #53

Yes and then tells Mathews she's a Progressive.. can't trust her.. and I don't want Bill in the WH berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #54

She is not liberal and she is not progressive. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #52