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2016 Postmortem

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Server [View all] H2O Man Mar 2016 OP
Those willing to "Fall on Swords" FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #1
I think that it H2O Man Mar 2016 #24
You most certainly are quite correct FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #30
Interesting. H2O Man Mar 2016 #36
Given the possible outcome and Republicans holding their powder dry FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #49
There will probably be 2 or 3 more SCOTUS vacancies over the next 4 to 8 years, so just tblue37 Mar 2016 #55
The point I am making exactly FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #60
I think we all have to face the possibility that neither candidate will be the Democratic leveymg Mar 2016 #158
My preference would be for O'Malley to un-suspend his campaign. grasswire Mar 2016 #163
I don't think people are going to accept that. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #170
The DNC can NOT appoint a nominee who didn't campaign. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #178
If that's a Conv. rule (and I don't think so) the Rules Cmte. can and will change it, if need be. leveymg Mar 2016 #185
But one wonders what Obama may be thinking... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #208
I'm not sure that he takes it quite so personally. leveymg Mar 2016 #211
Interesting...thanks for the info, leveymg... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #214
But Christie wasn't perceived as a poor little picked-on thing, either. senz Mar 2016 #88
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #90
good question floppyboo Mar 2016 #2
Very good. H2O Man Mar 2016 #25
I'm thinking that H2O Man Mar 2016 #81
Yes! Great job with the thanks to all POV's! floppyboo Mar 2016 #91
The "Hillary step aside" part doesn't ring true. senz Mar 2016 #94
copying this pic for future use! floppyboo Mar 2016 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #183
LOL! The psychological similarity is obvious, isn't it? senz Mar 2016 #192
Lots of people in denial about this one. I've read some great articles and seen a great video pdsimdars Mar 2016 #3
The thing is a private email account is not the same thing as a private server. vintx Mar 2016 #6
correct grasswire Mar 2016 #37
Fig leaf - do you mean as a peace offering... dchill Mar 2016 #92
the latter grasswire Mar 2016 #97
Oh, right! dchill Mar 2016 #103
Agree. This is one of the biggest elephants in the room. nt floppyboo Mar 2016 #7
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #199
One of the things H2O Man Mar 2016 #27
. DURHAM D Mar 2016 #4
Thanks for some perspective on this. It's the last hope for Sanders, so his supporters are willing Hoyt Mar 2016 #15
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #28
One only needs to see their homepage: Contrary1 Mar 2016 #32
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2016 #38
Daily News Spin senz Mar 2016 #96
"Bin" is more appropriate Oilwellian Mar 2016 #160
lol, then it's well named. senz Mar 2016 #168
One needs only to see the word :opinion: in the link to realize they will be reading an editorial/ Hiraeth Mar 2016 #191
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2016 #39
daily news bin is not a legitimate site grasswire Mar 2016 #40
Wow. That article is really wrong. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #78
I am more concerned about her cozy relationship with Saudi and other corrupt regime, revealed in kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #5
the republican party will not be able to argue this point floppyboo Mar 2016 #12
You know how Republican Party has disintegrated... from inside. If we do not correct corruption in kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #16
I believe you are right floppyboo Mar 2016 #23
That's one way to put it. senz Mar 2016 #99
It has already corrupted, imo. 840high Mar 2016 #29
Trump's an isolationist who's remaking the party in his own image MisterP Mar 2016 #57
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #34
Nailed it. Some wrong doing, and people other than Hillary will be identified as being responsible. Autumn Mar 2016 #8
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #42
...! you were not alone.. KoKo Mar 2016 #76
I don't want to do it again. Autumn Mar 2016 #80
I agree with both you and H2O Man dana_b Mar 2016 #100
The rich and powerful really are different from us. Autumn Mar 2016 #102
And, "Turning Washington into a Liar's Club" --Richard Reeves KoKo Mar 2016 #188
Same here senz Mar 2016 #107
Yep, me too... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #209
That is the big question. mmonk Mar 2016 #9
Indeed, it is! H2O Man Mar 2016 #43
our party is accustomed to defending our candidates against spurious and invented charges bigtree Mar 2016 #10
If one believes H2O Man Mar 2016 #44
Thread win. ucrdem Mar 2016 #118
Maybe DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #143
Yep. Shit flows down hill. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #11
It's the American way! H2O Man Mar 2016 #45
As someone who held a Secret Clearance throughout the 1970's-1980's and a Top Secret Clearance MgtPA Mar 2016 #13
When I leave the 840high Mar 2016 #31
Although I'm now retired, I still maintain contact with some of my similiarly-cleared colleagues MgtPA Mar 2016 #62
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #46
I'm waiting to hear that Sidney Blumenthal/Clinton Foundation is under the FBI microscope. MgtPA Mar 2016 #66
I believe that H2O Man Mar 2016 #72
I know that this will be shocking to some nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #127
Hillary had an obligation to fill out an ESAF for a lot of the enails NWCorona Mar 2016 #105
You cannot compare yourself to Hillary Abouttime Mar 2016 #173
Tell that to Richard Nixon. MgtPA Mar 2016 #175
I had a TS from the 80's til 2005. If I had done what Hillary did, or Petraeus, I would be in jail. peacebird Mar 2016 #207
The server was set up so that FoIA requests would return the answer, 'We have no records'. w4rma Mar 2016 #14
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #47
If that's true, it gives me the willies. senz Mar 2016 #108
"The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer." tk2kewl Mar 2016 #181
I think the timing of their investigation report is important DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #17
Great answer. H2O Man Mar 2016 #63
I believe this is what Bernie is telegraphing with his latest Superdelegate comments. N/t yodermon Mar 2016 #67
Interesting... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #213
Not convinced yet of Trump's opposition to Hill. senz Mar 2016 #111
I believe this statement to be very inaccurate.... NCTraveler Mar 2016 #18
I believe that H2O Man Mar 2016 #19
You then moved on to address it as if it's a larger point. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #20
Fair enough. H2O Man Mar 2016 #65
people inclined to take stock in anti-Hillary scandalmongering bigtree Mar 2016 #86
True, that. H2O Man Mar 2016 #89
I don't have any place in my mind where I find anything about the emails relevant bigtree Mar 2016 #106
I view this H2O Man Mar 2016 #109
I very much agree bigtree Mar 2016 #112
Some of us see great distance between Obama and Hillary. senz Mar 2016 #113
the end run around DoS with this server tk2kewl Mar 2016 #184
Yes, and no wonder they're investigating. senz Mar 2016 #193
From everything I have read... NCTraveler Mar 2016 #120
I wouldn't be so quick on the draw there hootinholler Mar 2016 #22
Yes. Watching good DUers pile onto this failed Benghazi is just embarrassing. ucrdem Mar 2016 #116
It's just foolishness to ignore this, or blame it on Sanders supporters. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #176
Not so much the e-mail's but what they may have revealed. KoKo Mar 2016 #21
As always, thank you! H2O Man Mar 2016 #74
Please give this a look... KoKo Mar 2016 #124
Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Mar 2016 #26
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #75
Two things bother me. Vinca Mar 2016 #33
Key point. H2O Man Mar 2016 #35
let's hope it comes before the convention. grasswire Mar 2016 #41
The general election could be the biggest embarrassment ever. Vinca Mar 2016 #51
yup floppyboo Mar 2016 #56
it won't dana_b Mar 2016 #104
That's already been discussed. randome Mar 2016 #48
That makes no sense. Vinca Mar 2016 #52
The GOP can make someone's life a living hell if they want. They don't need charges for that. randome Mar 2016 #54
I disagree. Vinca Mar 2016 #58
I agree, Vinca. H2O Man Mar 2016 #79
I find it interesting that you are so quick... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #215
There is a reason the GOP is not making anything out of this so far. randome Mar 2016 #50
You are smarter than that. grasswire Mar 2016 #53
LOL. Good one. Oh. Wait. You're serious. Sorry. My bad. Karmadillo Mar 2016 #59
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #61
Were you alive during the Clinton administration? 8 years making something out of nothing. Autumn Mar 2016 #73
That's the bottom line question for me. 2banon Mar 2016 #64
Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #69
I missed that post. My answer to that question would have been Hillary, of course! 2banon Mar 2016 #71
This is an election, not a pageant. Gregorian Mar 2016 #68
All of the polls H2O Man Mar 2016 #82
Good point. This is new criticism of Hillary, based on today. Not the 90's. Gregorian Mar 2016 #122
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #140
You have shown the spectrum of possible outcomes of the FBI investigation. panader0 Mar 2016 #70
Well said. H2O Man Mar 2016 #83
Nerve racking at least. mmonk Mar 2016 #121
I agree...to me, it's highly irresponsible... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #216
H2O Man, Clinton pay-to-play Saudi arms deal/Clinton Foundation... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #77
Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #85
Her supporters wouldn't care if she stood in the middle of 5th Avenue and senz Mar 2016 #84
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2016 #87
Respondeat superior Samantha Mar 2016 #93
Sam, I agree 100% H2O Man Mar 2016 #144
I think the series you mention would be an extremely worthwhile investment of your time Samantha Mar 2016 #156
My Cynical View As A Liberal Is This... ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #95
this is the thing, then......... grasswire Mar 2016 #101
I Agree, And I'm NOT GIVING UP... But What I See Going On NOW ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #110
well, what we are seeing is bigger than Hillary v. Bernie grasswire Mar 2016 #128
The struggle is ongoing. We keep going. mmonk Mar 2016 #129
I Got On Board For Bernie About 10 Months Ago... ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #162
It really is unbelievable. His own party sabotages him, MSM all but ignores him, and "journalists" agracie Mar 2016 #139
agracie... Been A Member Here since 2004 & A Member Of ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #161
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2016 #145
I Was Too Young To Fully Understand The '68 Convention And All ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #166
NSA is a freaking vacuum cleaner. Ask Frank Church. Octafish Mar 2016 #114
Thanks, Buddy! H2O Man Mar 2016 #146
I truly enjoyed reading this post, Octafish Samantha Mar 2016 #164
Unindicted Co-Conspirator. I predict these words will be printed next to Hillary Clinton's name. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #115
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2016 #147
Pithy. malthaussen Mar 2016 #221
Comey says the FBI report will be out by mid-May latest riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #117
May would be perfect timing to set up an open convention just like the Repubs possible scenario corkhead Mar 2016 #132
That is also possible nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #133
"a race against time" H2O Man Mar 2016 #148
That has been the case since the beginning. malthaussen Mar 2016 #222
Do I think Hillary will be frog marched-no way however azurnoir Mar 2016 #119
Very good. H2O Man Mar 2016 #149
I believe Hillary will agree to drop her quest for the Presidency in exchange for no indictment Samantha Mar 2016 #171
I will be brutally honest with you nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #123
I understand. At this point, all sorts of possibilities. mmonk Mar 2016 #125
Agreed, at this point I am just stocking up on popcorm nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #126
!!!! H2O Man Mar 2016 #151
Good Points.... KoKo Mar 2016 #130
the instability in the system is real and we both know it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #131
I misspoke. "Early May" is the direct quote. riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #134
Take into account originally they were intending late december nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #135
No one hopes More...that something will come of this "Investigation" KoKo Mar 2016 #136
Yup, we have parallel government in place nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #137
"Parallel Government." KoKo Mar 2016 #138
kick ... and crying.... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #142
Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #153
This is what I have heard as well Samantha Mar 2016 #165
That has been suggested nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #167
One issue I haven't seen much discussion about Oilwellian Mar 2016 #174
Yes, backing up on the cloud seems quite careless. mmonk Mar 2016 #180
I don't think Hillary knew the emails were backed up Oilwellian Mar 2016 #189
Interesting. Well someone wanted a record. mmonk Mar 2016 #197
I went back to a McClatchy piece I had read and it's titled: Oilwellian Mar 2016 #217
I wonder why they risk this much? Do they know consequences? kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #141
the Clintons? grasswire Mar 2016 #154
If they are not found guilty.... Do they feel totally safe with it.... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #155
Their egos tell them they can do whatever they want BECAUSE THEY ARE THE CLINTONS Samantha Mar 2016 #172
Exactly! H2O Man Mar 2016 #152
Very good. H2O Man Mar 2016 #150
Great discussion noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #159
Yup and that will bleed into politics nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #169
Watergate? So we're already talking about Obama and Lynch committing geek tragedy Mar 2016 #201
If they try to stonewall the investigation nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #203
Whose idea was it to use a private server? Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #157
Fair question. H2O Man Mar 2016 #182
No one is going to get into trouble for following a directive... joshcryer Mar 2016 #177
Interesting. H2O Man Mar 2016 #179
once the issue is in the rear view mirror and there's no more Fear/Uncertainty/Doubt talking geek tragedy Mar 2016 #186
Thanks H2O Man Mar 2016 #187
So you can't even imagine it going the other way? NWCorona Mar 2016 #200
No, and I hope every person guilty of pushing this bullshit will participate geek tragedy Mar 2016 #202
So if in fact something does come of it NWCorona Mar 2016 #204
define 'something' geek tragedy Mar 2016 #205
I don't know. NWCorona Mar 2016 #206
The very least that will be done due to this scandal will be... Oilwellian Mar 2016 #190
Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2016 #195
Thank you so much, H2O Man, for continuing this discussion. FourScore Mar 2016 #194
Thank you! H2O Man Mar 2016 #196
YOU are starting to open up some decent conversations. FourScore Mar 2016 #198
No doubt they won't mention it until late. In the meantime, mmonk Mar 2016 #210
I believe I read... grasswire Mar 2016 #212
Kick--the elephant in the room. panader0 Mar 2016 #218
I consider it a dead issue. malthaussen Mar 2016 #219
This needs to be dealt with sooner than later. Slower awakening, worse it gets. kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #220
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