2016 Postmortem

forjusticethunders

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31. I don't blame you though

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:20 AM

Mar 2016

This primary has taught me a lot. The lessons are there for everyone who wants leftism in this country to see, but too many want to ignore it. The biggest issue is that it's the centrists like Obama and Hillary doing the outreach.

Even if we suddenly became a Democratic Socialist system tomorrow, capitalism would come roaring back if the capitalists do a better job of responding to people's concerns and the socialists rest on their laurels.

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Time to make people mad: The modern left sucks and this primary proves it. [View all] forjusticethunders Mar 2016 OP

This. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #1

Good post. DanTex Mar 2016 #2

the left does not exist as a movement. there are issue movements like choice, GLBT rights, geek tragedy Mar 2016 #3

Oh, gee, yeah, let's let someone tell us to just give up. djean111 Mar 2016 #4

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #5

So - to be clear - you are calling us, Bernie's supporters, dog shit. djean111 Mar 2016 #6

Well, you're the one getting mad forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #7

I am not mad, my dear fellow/madam/whatever. I am bemused. djean111 Mar 2016 #28

That is exact what is going on here. Puglover Mar 2016 #8

How nice ... Trajan Mar 2016 #9

That would start with being willing to allow the Democratic Party to lose elections for a while. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #10

Depends on how you do it. forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #12

Go for it. Let me know how well it works out for you. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #24

Right, because it's always up to others to do the hard lifting that you're demanding. Never you, eh? CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #56

He was the demanding or suggesting action, not me. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #64

Oh, right, you're the one advocating for GOP control, because reasons. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #65

You are being stupid. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #66

You are being ignored. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #67

building the left should in no way help the Republicans win elections. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #13

Four legs good! Two legs bad. Always very bad. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #25

no one of good conscience ever wants the Republicans to win an election geek tragedy Mar 2016 #27

I am just saying you sound like a sheep from Animal Farm. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #36

no, this is what a rational liberal Democrat sounds like. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #37

Go read Animal Farm, you sound just like a sheep. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #40

I read Animal Farm, and I know exactly what you are geek tragedy Mar 2016 #41

Well, you sound just like a sheep from the book. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #44

no matter how many times you post that same tedious insult, it doesn't get geek tragedy Mar 2016 #45

You use almost the exact same words. It is true. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #47

You have admitted your only goal is to cause the Democrats to lose elections, that is your agenda. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #49

I think you have reading comprehension problems. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #52

I suggest you start by visiting with family members of those who got blown up in Iraq geek tragedy Mar 2016 #55

You mean the one Hillary Clinton voted for? Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #60

I see you have nothing to say now that you reminded us all... Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #63

I would add this to your very well reasoned post Lucinda Mar 2016 #11

What's more "bottom up" than voting for a Leftist in the GE? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #14

Organizing, convincing people, and creating a self-sustaining movement forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #17

Why not vote for a Leftist that's is running in the GE? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #19

And that's why the leftist candidate in the primary forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #21

How the hell does voting for a moderate help the Left? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #23

your knowledge of 'the left' is remarkably shallow, especially considering what you claim to be... islandmkl Mar 2016 #15

So what did the left do in response to the rise of the Third Way? forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #20

I just don't think you understand how politics and political power works. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #26

The Dems have 2 big wave elections in a row. forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #29

I don't blame you though forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #31

a simple question, with no criticism built in, just a question: islandmkl Mar 2016 #42

I support Democratic Socialism forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #43

This is a part of the start. mmonk Mar 2016 #16

"The left shoulda..." Who are the left? What is their shared apparatus of organization? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #18

Very true. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #22

shoulda, woulda, coulda. welcome to ignore. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #30

Yup. that is the way to go, methinks! djean111 Mar 2016 #33

You're right. There are no "movement progressives" to counter the RW. baldguy Mar 2016 #32

Why would the aristocracy join the revolution? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #46

What revolution? baldguy Mar 2016 #57

You seem to have a gripe with apathy. Avalux Mar 2016 #34

Maybe the left isn't as big as you think it is taught_me_patience Mar 2016 #35

The "left" is big enough to get a lot of Democrats "not elected" if it galavanized and chose to. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #38

you talk like someone who's here to help Republicans win elections, not contribute geek tragedy Mar 2016 #48

Just stating the truth, not encouraging it. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #50

yeah, that whole Nader thing worked out great for you people in 2000. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #54

When has a leftist party EVER moved leftward forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #59

That's literally what I'm talking about. forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #53

You don't seem to know what you are talking about so you and your buddy are making stuff up. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #61

People support progressive policy positions forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #39

We were. jeff47 Mar 2016 #51

I'm laughing at the 'superior' intellect. Maedhros Mar 2016 #58

Excellent post OP workinclasszero Mar 2016 #62