2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Susan Sarandon: Trump Might Be Better for America Than Hillary Clinton [View all]Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)First, friend, I may not be a DNC operative, but I was a civil rights lawyer for almost three decades, lived in Florida during the 2000 election, and represented (albeit on other matters) many of the same people you and yours could have cared less about when you were "bravely" standing up for people who looked just a whole lot like your suburban voter base. If you want to turn this into a resume contest, have at it.
Second, saying "the SCOTUS could not have acted this way but for Nader's stupidity and arrogance" is just regurgitating the same "it's all liberals' fault" diversion from the DNC's (really the DLC's) simultaneous, and politically-motivated, abandonment of convicted felons. To adapt your own phrases, "you can blame other causes but in the real world, the DNC/DLC's refusal to stand up for a group which was disproportionately comprised of PoC was sufficient in and of itself to cost Gore the election" and "while other actions might have prevented the SCOTUS ruling, the actions of the DNC/DLC were sufficient by themselves to give SCOTUS the opportunity to steal this election."
The FACT is that EITHER Nader voters abandoning their conscience OR the DNC/DLC having the political courage to stand up for an "unpopular" group WOULD have stopped the SCOTUS. The only difference in OPINION is that I am honest enough to admit that FACT and you are not.
Oh, just not to waste another post replying to #205, in 2000, you had undisputed facts AND THE LAW on your side. You didn't need the presumption. You had a purging method that Florida had admitted BY DESIGN purged thousands of persons who were still eligible voters AND you had statistical evidence that those persons were disproportionately people of color. You had actual aggrieved plaintiffs, not just an anticipation of future harm. It was literally shooting fish in a barrel. You CHOSE to abandon thousands of PoC to preserve your center-right image.