2016 Postmortem

delrem

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39. How are Boeing operations internal to the US dependent on an Ex-Im Bank?

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 12:42 AM

Apr 2016

Wouldn't they be dependent on the value of the actual product?

I mean c'mon. Boeing. Check out Boeing sales to Saudi Arabia, for example. Check out your candidate's role in guaranteeing those sales.

You figure they need subsidies?

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The Koch brothers have put out a web video praising Bernie Sanders [View all] pnwmom Apr 2016 OP

The Kochs want Hillary on other issues revbones Apr 2016 #1

No, they're trying to encourage Independents to vote for him. And you didn't pnwmom Apr 2016 #2

Leaders don't always toe the party line. They do what they think is right. like Iraq, or the TPP. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #3

Because People are sick of corporate welfare. Gwhittey Apr 2016 #6

Bank loans are not welfare. They are loans paid back with interest. Franklin Delano pnwmom Apr 2016 #9

Bernie, Cruz and Koch oppose Elizabeth Warren Hortensis Apr 2016 #85

I found it quite curious that Boeing announced major layoffs NWCorona Apr 2016 #14

Check your calendar. This is the time of year they often make these announcements pnwmom Apr 2016 #33

I live in Seattle and worked for Boeing NWCorona Apr 2016 #35

Then you know this is when it often happens. Nobody at Boeing can ever count pnwmom Apr 2016 #37

That's all fine and I'll give you that point NWCorona Apr 2016 #53

It would have demoralized some people but we only had less than 6% participation. pnwmom Apr 2016 #56

You have a point NWCorona Apr 2016 #57

Yes, and I went to a caucus. Ugh. pnwmom Apr 2016 #61

It seems that the experience wasn't very uniform at all NWCorona Apr 2016 #69

Well I agree with Bernie on the ExIm bank revbones Apr 2016 #12

OH come on no one is dumb enough to buy into something like Kochs ploy. Gwhittey Apr 2016 #4

The Koch brothers are strongly against the Export Import bank pnwmom Apr 2016 #7

Ok I guess I was wrong Gwhittey Apr 2016 #8

Why would Bernie oppose an important part of the FDR legacy pnwmom Apr 2016 #11

Because it has been corrupted by people like Clinton Gwhittey Apr 2016 #15

Thank you. RiverLover Apr 2016 #17

The naive people are the ones adopting the tea party view against the bank. pnwmom Apr 2016 #19

Then you are saying Elizabeth Warren and everyone but Bernie-so-pure pnwmom Apr 2016 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Gwhittey Apr 2016 #25

+10000000000000000000000 azmom Apr 2016 #21

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #44

You didn't read the article. nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #74

WHY DOES BERNIE HATE AMERICA??? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #5

Because he's a socialist/communist/fellow traveller neverforget Apr 2016 #24

I hear he likes turtles though. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #45

more k-bro manipulation oldandhappy Apr 2016 #10

Hillary bro-gressives... nt revbones Apr 2016 #13

EXIM is a legitimate issue to debate. pat_k Apr 2016 #16

It is not corporate welfare because it is not charity. They make loans to be repaid with interest. pnwmom Apr 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Gwhittey Apr 2016 #26

I'm not arguing pro or con, but past default rates do not predict the future. pat_k Apr 2016 #78

Absolutely: Sanders = Koch bros. delrem Apr 2016 #22

No. Sanders position on the ExIm bank is just as wrong as Ted Cruz's is, pnwmom Apr 2016 #27

Bernie Sanders stated his reason: delrem Apr 2016 #32

He's wrong. Boeing is producing its planes right here. It IS a vehicle for job creation pnwmom Apr 2016 #34

How are Boeing operations internal to the US dependent on an Ex-Im Bank? delrem Apr 2016 #39

They need to borrow money to build the very expensive planes that will pnwmom Apr 2016 #41

They can borrow money the same way every corporation does. delrem Apr 2016 #46

The large majority of jobs produced are right here. And the scale of the loans pnwmom Apr 2016 #48

Oh c'mon, you're suggesting that there aren't already banks "too large to fail". delrem Apr 2016 #51

But Bernie wants to break them up, so it's nuts to ALSO want to disband pnwmom Apr 2016 #84

Oh that's right- choie Apr 2016 #88

It is what is being reported nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #79

Obama campaigned against it in 2008 and won. azmom Apr 2016 #23

The bank was reformed in 2012. This was President Obama in 2015: pnwmom Apr 2016 #28

Reagan was also a big supporter. azmom Apr 2016 #30

So? Franklin Delano Roosevelt began it and every President since then pnwmom Apr 2016 #31

So, it's not a republicans oppose the import export bank azmom Apr 2016 #36

I don't understand your question. The tea party opposes the bank and so does Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #38

Read your own thread, it was asked and answered. azmom Apr 2016 #47

No, it wasn't. Bernie's answer was just his usual spiel about corporate welfare, pnwmom Apr 2016 #49

Do you really think these companies should qualify azmom Apr 2016 #52

Yes, and so does Elizabeth Warren. And so does every Democratic President pnwmom Apr 2016 #59

Don't forget, Including republican presidents. azmom Apr 2016 #63

Every President since FDR began it. The tea party opposes it though -- and Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #65

As I understand it, the tea party azmom Apr 2016 #70

The tea party pretends to. But they support lots of other things pnwmom Apr 2016 #73

I agree with Bernie. When a single company azmom Apr 2016 #80

Boeing and Lockheed's European competitor, Airbus, has the advantage pnwmom Apr 2016 #83

It's hillaryous. jillan Apr 2016 #29

She's gish galloping her own thread! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #43

Boeing also competes with Lockheed-Martin. okasha Apr 2016 #40

Which also can use the Ex-Im bank. Airbus, OTOH, can use the comparable pnwmom Apr 2016 #42

Of all the demagoguery this cycle I find the Ex-Im the most irritating Recursion Apr 2016 #60

Yup. I understand why the tea party opposes it. I just don't get it with Bernie. pnwmom Apr 2016 #62

Bernie is the one who accepts $$ from Koch inc not Hillary nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #75

So the guys who helped fund the Nader campaign also support Bernie. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #50

Theyre are also Scott Walker's biggest patrons RandySF Apr 2016 #55

K&R CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #54

From what I currently know, SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #58

Most people here think they support the New Deal and FDR. pnwmom Apr 2016 #66

Smart bet. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #64

Mr. Rove's SuperPAC has also expressed its admiration: ucrdem Apr 2016 #67

No surprise. Republicans have been propping Bernie up since the beginning. n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #68

The Kochs funded the DLC HRC co-founded. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #71

I guess they didn't get the quid pro quo they were hoping for. ucrdem Apr 2016 #72

Yet. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #77

Evidently they got tired of waiting. nt ucrdem Apr 2016 #81

Bernie accepted money from t hem for his Campaign nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #76

Bernie is the koch bros favorite revolutionary! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #82

Well, it was a good run until you exposed Sanders as the secret 4th Koch Brother. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #86

Bernie chose the wrong side on this issue. He picked the tea party side, pnwmom Apr 2016 #87

The Koch Bros want Sanders to win. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #89