Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search


(14,734 posts)
24. I support Bernie and I'm 57
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

The idea that Bernie supporters 'have never had jobs' is offensive. I've worked HARD since I was 15. The reason I like Bernie so much, and am supporting him, is that I feel that he cares about me, my family and our kitchen table issues, like healthcare, high student loans and stronger Social Security. I like how he wants to reverse the disastrous tax cut policies that Republicans have foisted off on us, and that have a) NOT created more jobs, b) NOT put more money in the treasury, c) caused cuts in programs that help Americans, d) run up the national debt and e) allowed our infrastructure to crumble. I also like how he wants to take a leadership position on global warming.

So, Dan, you're wrong in a lot of cases. And especially offensive to me, Dan was your statement about minimum wage, "I don't know, I was in college."

I had to work my way through college, not only supporting myself, but earning most of the money for my tuition and books. And just because Bernie wants free tuition in state colleges to reflect the philosophy that education is an investment in our economy rather than something only a few can afford, it doesn't mean the beneficiaries won't have to work to support themselves while attending.

It gets me hot under the collar, Dan, when people start saying all Bernie supporters just want a bunch of free stuff. You know what I say to that, Dan? I'm respectfully gonna have to call 'bullshit' on it, and I'll tell you why.

We pay taxes, Dan, a lot of taxes. Not counting FICA and Medicare, which are payroll taxes, my effective tax rate is about 6.5% of gross. But my healthcare premium, Dan, is 18.8% of my gross and it is a shitty program with high copays and high deductibles. It isn't good enough for me or for my family, Dan. That's why I want single payer. When I get sick, I shouldn't have to worry about anything but showing up at the doctor and getting treated. Period. Ask the millions of seniors who are on Medicare. They'll tell you how good that is.

Why, Dan, can't we use OUR tax dollars, just for once, on stuff that actually helps us. Like healthcare, fixing the infrastructure, strengthening Social Security and addressing global warming? Why does OUR tax money have to be used for domestic spying, a war on drugs we lost the minute we declared, and a forever war? Why, Dan?

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #1
And their lives are only a joke to you? daleanime Apr 2016 #2
I was 19 once too, I don't hold it against them. DanTex Apr 2016 #3
And they provide so much mirth.... daleanime Apr 2016 #11
and the minimum wage was probably not much different then, than it is now? lostnfound Apr 2016 #14
I dunno what it was, I was in college. DanTex Apr 2016 #16
What? Are you saying that you didn't work.... daleanime Apr 2016 #28
Nope. Full-time student. DanTex Apr 2016 #29
Did you borrow to go to college? JDPriestly Apr 2016 #38
Of course, most of Team Hill here says they are in the 1%, or just shy of it Hydra Apr 2016 #34
"Lack of empathy...." daleanime Apr 2016 #48
I'm 30 years old. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #47
I am 65 and have worked since age 14. You are smearing a large, diverse group, you know? nt tblue37 Apr 2016 #51
Thanks for adding that helpful point to the discussion tabasco Apr 2016 #4
What the hell is wrong with some people. SamKnause Apr 2016 #10
+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #12
I support Bernie and I'm 57 PatrickforO Apr 2016 #24
^THIS^ SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #30
Best reply in the thread, right above. Scuba Apr 2016 #32
Thank you for stating it so well, PatrickforO. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #41
This says it all nt Melurkyoulongtime Apr 2016 #55
Still as funny as ever. dchill Apr 2016 #5
AF vet, 40 years in the workforce and you think I've never had a job? Scuba Apr 2016 #6
LOL. My reply was a bit longer. PatrickforO Apr 2016 #25
The fact that you sound so much like a Republican is interesting. phantom power Apr 2016 #8
so many do amborin Apr 2016 #50
I think you're confused elias7 Apr 2016 #20
You talking to me, Bub? nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #26
What a vile, disgusting comment. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #46
Why are more voters, overall, aligning with Clinton? (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #7
Both of my kids are strong Bernie supporters Dem2 Apr 2016 #9
Why should the future depend upon parents like you going through great difficulty? Land Shark Apr 2016 #15
One of them expresses that she feels "awful" about the situation Dem2 Apr 2016 #21
Maybe they regret that they are a burden on your resources lostnfound Apr 2016 #18
I'm sure they agree with this Dem2 Apr 2016 #23
Face facts: you're older and have had more time to learn AND you're THEIR PARENT Land Shark Apr 2016 #39
I realize it's an unfair criticism to an extent Dem2 Apr 2016 #40
But...wait... PatrickforO Apr 2016 #31
I never said I don't support Bernie Dem2 Apr 2016 #37
So what's the reason that millions more are aligning with Clinton? Tarc Apr 2016 #13
Don't know a single soul who has. I used to, but they have all.changed Land Shark Apr 2016 #17
Those are also the reasons given for the millions aligning with Trump. ucrdem Apr 2016 #19
Millions more have voted for Hillary. Metric System Apr 2016 #22
Millions voted for Hoover too. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #45
We need FDR. We needed him in 2008, or at least someone like LBJ... Blue Meany Apr 2016 #27
...and there's a reason millions more are aligning with Clinton... brooklynite Apr 2016 #33
So she's supporting those things this week? Hydra Apr 2016 #35
Hillary was supporting immigration reform when Sanders was against it, and going to Lou Dobbs show lunamagica Apr 2016 #43
Funny, I remember her rolling all of these out last Spring and Fall... brooklynite Apr 2016 #44
Quite simply, people want "C H A N G E", and NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #36
We got lucky with FDR, ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #42
Finally there's someone to trust felix_numinous Apr 2016 #49
There's a reason HRC has far more votes and supporters than Bernie. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #52
kick azmom Apr 2016 #53
What's an actual metric by which you consider the US a worse place now than two generations ago? Recursion Apr 2016 #54
I can answer that. . . snowy owl Apr 2016 #56
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»There's a reason millions...»Reply #24