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Jefferson23

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35. Sanders response: Lobby positions vs workers within an industry..let the people decide.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016




Additionally: Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting
Yesterday at 5:18am ·

Jim Naureckas' piece on NPR's failure to factcheck Hillary Clinton's claim that Bernie Sanders is "lying" about her ties to fossil fuel lobbyists was picked up by CommonDreams.org:

Overby’s job, as he interprets it, is just to confirm that Clinton was indeed accurate in saying she accepts money from people who work for fossil-fuel companies.... If there’s an “implication that dirty energy has got her on a string,” Overby observes, “campaign finance data suggest it wouldn’t be much of a string.”

But what about “lobbyists working for the oil, gas and coal industry”—isn’t that what Sanders is supposed to be lying about, to the point of making Hillary Clinton sick? To give him credit, Overby is good enough to tell us what he isn’t telling us: "The industry total here doesn’t include lobbyists with fossil-fuel clients...."

Well—why not include lobbyists with fossil-fuel clients, since that is what the Sanders campaign, like other critics, was explicitly talking about?

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/01/did-sanders-lie-about-clintons-oil-money-npr-factchecker-cant-be-bothered-check

Tin ear. Thankfully the young people. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #1
Tone-deaf arrogance. Pride goes before the fall. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #7
She is a skunk. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #13
She really smacked Bernie there. Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #2
Still waiting for your "little Birdie" post! LOL. nt Logical Apr 2016 #3
She bought and paid for by the fossil fuels industry. Have heard of her superpac? JRLeft Apr 2016 #19
Except that he has never lied about her. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #41
So Bernie does too. A bit holier than though don't you think? redstateblues Apr 2016 #69
Here is Green Peace's research: JDPriestly Apr 2016 #57
You post the truth CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #63
Way to alienate peoples vote you might need in the general Marrah_G Apr 2016 #4
Hearing any that all you don't like, is a call for alienation. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #8
I don't vote for people who don't want my vote. n/t JPnoodleman Apr 2016 #21
She is clearly telling them to start doing research Sheepshank Apr 2016 #5
I've done my research and it determined Hillary has lied/misspoke yet again, but... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #11
It is what hillarians do. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #15
Nope, no insinuation was made. But you go ahead and try to make yourself a martyr Nt Sheepshank Apr 2016 #24
The M$M is the one doing the "spoon feeding" in America and it's not the young eating it Fumesucker Apr 2016 #23
*laughs* Hydra Apr 2016 #36
We know how to use the Internet, and don't listen to the bullcrap Kittycat Apr 2016 #53
I did research - and the "original" meeting in Copenhagen did NOT lead to the karynnj Apr 2016 #54
Another attempt at getting the votes of supporters of Sanders that is sure to be effective. merrily Apr 2016 #6
It's further showing this entire primary process was just a dog and pony show to the DNC elites HughLefty1 Apr 2016 #70
I just asked on another thread whether she really did say that renate Apr 2016 #9
It's not the advisors FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #22
She knows she's lost the youth vote, so she decided to put them down. Classic sour grapes. reformist2 Apr 2016 #10
Those silly dumb whippersnappers... 99Forever Apr 2016 #12
That's the way! Now young voters will happily vote for her! Such a smart candidate. jillan Apr 2016 #14
fuck.her.pity. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #16
Um, she promoted FRACKING as Sec of State--doesn't mention that TheDormouse Apr 2016 #17
And get off my lawn! Those a gold plated leaves ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #18
She has already LOST. From here on out FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #20
The grown up...God, the condescension EndElectoral Apr 2016 #25
Right Hillary, young people are too stupid to do their own research BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #26
She forgot about the Internets Hydra Apr 2016 #38
Watching #IFeelSorry, #IDidMyResearch, NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #27
She is so out of touch. SamKnause Apr 2016 #28
So the gold standard is the NYT and WP. Two corporately owned news papers. YOHABLO Apr 2016 #29
I feel sorry for them too Hillary... timlot Apr 2016 #30
The word "clueless" come to mind. Cryptoad Apr 2016 #31
Yeah, you keep thinking that. Clueless does come to azmom Apr 2016 #34
You want a progressive running for President? Hydra Apr 2016 #42
no thats the 4th way Neo Progressives Cryptoad Apr 2016 #47
FDR Dem is 4th way Neo? Hydra Apr 2016 #51
But when we suggest Hill fans are uninformed, y'all go into high dudgeon. senz Apr 2016 #43
lol n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #61
Young people are doing the research and azmom Apr 2016 #32
To answer your question: she thinks she's fooling.... Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #33
Sanders response: Lobby positions vs workers within an industry..let the people decide. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #35
The WaPo sinks that low with its "fact check" BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #56
Tapper is not interested..too many msm bobbleheads are similar. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #58
yo clinton...it's called google elana i am Apr 2016 #37
I'm going to feel sorry for a lot of people if you win the primary, Hillary Clinton...millions Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #39
She gets dirty and personal. senz Apr 2016 #40
She's just being herself this week n/t Hydra Apr 2016 #44
Only some of the time? tralala Apr 2016 #45
"Why won't these peasants stop interrupting my coronation!!" GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #48
I did my research TheFarseer Apr 2016 #46
I don't feel a bit sorry for anyone who believes anything she says and supports her Autumn Apr 2016 #49
Spoken by an older stuck-in-the-status-quo candidate. Glad B isn't that candidate. snowy owl Apr 2016 #50
Hillary distorts the meetings in Copenhagen with India and China karynnj Apr 2016 #52
+1 kristopher Apr 2016 #55
on the telly it's easy to set an agenda, to dismiss anyone bringing up scandals as just some Pajamas MisterP Apr 2016 #59
GreenPeace has provided the Most Reliable Independent Analysis of all available kristopher Apr 2016 #60
Apparently, every generation needs to go through their own George McGovern landslide loss. Hoyt Apr 2016 #62
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #64
I am flattered that at 55 Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #65
Im 45 lmbradford Apr 2016 #66
She's a horrible candidate... HORRIBLE. AzDar Apr 2016 #67
But she doesn't feel sorry for us older folks who believe Sanders? mainer Apr 2016 #68
I feel sorry for the Boomers who've become bitter and cynical. intheflow Apr 2016 #71
Wow! She insults so many, many, many millions of voters amborin Apr 2016 #72
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