2016 Postmortem

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts) Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:38 PM Apr 2016

My concern was noted. [View all]

As an ally I want to do the right thing. I thought that part of doing the right thing included speaking out as a white person when white people are engaging in racist behavior. For example, if a colleague at work tells a joke about "colored people time", I think I ought to speak up and let that colleague know that such jokes are not appropriate.

Am I wrong? Should I just shut the fuck up about white people behaving badly?

42 votes, 2 passes \| Time left: Unlimited
	Your concern is noted, shut the fuck up.
	4 (10%)
	As an ally, you have an obligation to speak out.
	38 (90%)
	2 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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My concern was noted. [View all] Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 OP

well done :) yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #1

Your side doesn't get to call blacks "low information voters" and then pretend to care about a skit. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #2

True ... But/and, see post #4. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #5

Bernie supporters have lain waste to entire galaxies with their Berniebrotastic perfidity! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #120

Our side doesn't call blacks low information voters passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #125

Somehow? I'm completely unsurprised at the FIRST "your concern is noted" vote. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #3

I voted that you have an obligation; but, if you are talking about the Mayor D/Hillary C skit ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #4

You are, of course, correct. This is insincere outrage though. Not worth the effort. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #9

Sort of like the Vatican invite and scheduling stuff, you mean? IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #33

she does rbrnmw Apr 2016 #122

Thank you for that information. nt IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #123

So, in the hypothetical posed by the OP Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #10

the fact that they were using it to attack someone besides geek tragedy Apr 2016 #14

If I have a friend who makes a racist joke and others around him laugh Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #18

before you hold yourself out as a paragon of anti-racist activism, geek tragedy Apr 2016 #30

I'm not holding myself out as a paragon of anything Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #32

Seriously, you're showing more racial tone-deafness than Clinton geek tragedy Apr 2016 #36

It wasn't a damned racist joke ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #39

You mean like the black poster who said she was offended Kentonio Apr 2016 #53

is this something that actually happened geek tragedy Apr 2016 #60

Yeah that happened. Kentonio Apr 2016 #62

maybe I'll take your word for it that someone geek tragedy Apr 2016 #68

You can always ask Imari362 herself. Kentonio Apr 2016 #72

lol, as I figured, someone went in there geek tragedy Apr 2016 #73

No, a black poster was quite understandably annoyed at being told to 'take it to the Bernie group' Kentonio Apr 2016 #74

the person's first post in that thread was to accuse the AA geek tragedy Apr 2016 #75

It seemed like a clear reference to an earlier thread Kentonio Apr 2016 #77

Funny how few Bernie supporting "regulars" to the African-American Group, 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #81

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #76

I've had discussions with Bernie supporters in that group. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #78

And there we have it. The most 'respectful' Bernie supporters. Kentonio Apr 2016 #80

I think you see what you wish to see ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #83

Oh I just see what I want to see do I? Kentonio Apr 2016 #87

I think I see the disconnect, here ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #99

Did you mean to post that to me? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #35

yes, actually. Listen to black people. Radical concept, I know. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #37

Cool. Since they aren't offended I'll just consider this joke approved. Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #40

you can consider it whatever you want nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #41

I am also assuming you think I should ignore blacks who were offended Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #43

you can believe whatever you want. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #46

Where are all the blacks that are offended? kwassa Apr 2016 #127

this is a very thoughtful response. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #21

That's because ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #42

Exactly. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #45

It's a survival mechanism ... for most of us. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #59

Thanks for bothering to post the dialogue. Hortensis Apr 2016 #111

I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #114

Ah! Of course. I'll have to keep a closer eye Hortensis Apr 2016 #115

LOL ... Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #117

Hey, I think I should be insulted. Hortensis Apr 2016 #118

Not insulted ... just careful ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #121

Ouch. Yet, if being careful means Hortensis Apr 2016 #124

LOL ... it'll just be an ally tap! 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #129

The whack-upside was what I gave myself after not Hortensis Apr 2016 #136

Your concern is noted. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #6

you could have looked at the giant pile of fucks geek tragedy Apr 2016 #7

If a white guy at work said "CP time" and a black guy who was there expressed discomfort, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #8

If a black guy is not present, who determines if it is racist or not? Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #11

Just stop ... It is clear that you have read a word I have written. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #44

What about if ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #16

And you'd both rightly be hauled in to HR Lars39 Apr 2016 #82

Depends on the situation Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #12

You are to intuit the 'right thing' moment to moment and act accordingly whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #13

And, good for you. polly7 Apr 2016 #15

I wonder if those Black people on twitter have seen the entire skit ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #19

Yeah ............... they did. polly7 Apr 2016 #20

How do you know they saw the whole clip ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #24

Because they fucking said they did! That's how. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #26

LOL. Of course they did! LOL 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #47

Are you calling them liars? polly7 Apr 2016 #48

Not them. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #54

Oh! Well then I guess you need to look in a mirror for the real liar. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #55

LOL ... I'm not the person that said people told you they saw the entire skit. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #56

Wtf is your problem?? polly7 Apr 2016 #58

His problem ibegurpard Apr 2016 #61

Exactly. polly7 Apr 2016 #63

Of course you would, Polly. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #67

Oh definitely, but I have a feeling they'd get a quick visit from you. polly7 Apr 2016 #70

Yes ... That's exactly my problem ... that, ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #66

Got it one Prism Apr 2016 #89

Sure, Polly ... Sure, they did. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #64

Sure they did. And .......... I don't believe one fucking word you say. About anything. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #65

You seem angry. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #69

You seem dense. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #71

Do you really wish to take it there? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #84

You took it there long ago. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #86

The projection is strong in you, polly. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #90

Your alert failed, and now you're just making me tired. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #91

More of your fictions? I did not alert. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #95

Nah. No fiction. Try again, I'm sure you'll get one. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #101

Okay ... I was being polite. Another lie, then. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #106

The only 'lies' here are yours. Check that mirror ............. yet again. polly7 Apr 2016 #107

Okay ... LOL and Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #110

I'm sure they can speak for themselves ibegurpard Apr 2016 #22

Did you mean to post that to me? I'm not speaking for ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #88

Why are you lying? polly7 Apr 2016 #93

I think this will settle the issue of who the liar is ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #96

Sorry. Huge fail. polly7 Apr 2016 #97

Of course they did. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #98

Yeah ......... fortunately, not everyone is a clone of you. polly7 Apr 2016 #100

How do you get to that from anything I have posted in this thread? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #102

Better things to do than trying to figure out your argle bargle. polly7 Apr 2016 #103

I'm sure you do. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #105

And I'm sure you don't. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #109

You saying they're low information? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #23

I'm asking whether they saw the entire skit or whether they ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #94

You can raise concern but when you are told by POC that you are giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #17

People here don't speak for all others. polly7 Apr 2016 #25

It's not about speaking for everyone, it's about ppl not understanding giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #27

Many differing opinions and things are tolerated and appreciated/not appreciated polly7 Apr 2016 #31

What happens when the race/ethnicity/whatever you purport to be defending Tarc Apr 2016 #28

It doesn't matter ... they are the final arbitrators of what is and isn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #50

DU is not the workplace, and this is not what it appears to be. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #29

whatever. one_voice Apr 2016 #34

Well said. zappaman Apr 2016 #49

Perfect ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #52

This. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #57

Thank you for this. PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #79

Well said. nt jcgoldie Apr 2016 #85

+ infinity. n/t JTFrog Apr 2016 #112

I get it, Hillary gets a pass on racism because some Bernie supporters said bad things! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #128

No, you don't "get it" at all. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #132

Yeah, I did. Bottom line: Hillary gets a pass. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #133

Woooosh Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #134

Indeed In_The_Wind Apr 2016 #135

Other: You should do whatever benefits Hillary. QC Apr 2016 #38

You should start a Diversity Day Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #51

actually, the more I think about this, it was a back handed slap AGAINST Hillary = Hiraeth Apr 2016 #92

Your choices don't match your post. basselope Apr 2016 #104

Well I guess there are other alternatives. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #113

I voted with the majority but ... Rebkeh Apr 2016 #116

depends. Was it Clinton or one of her allies who did it? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #119

Why would you not speak up? MuseRider Apr 2016 #126

Your false analogy was duly noted, as well. A phony poll if ever there was one. kwassa Apr 2016 #130

I am absolutely loving some of the votes in your poll, I couldn't pick the option I wanted to Autumn Apr 2016 #131