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Recursion

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89. That's because your example is a *complete lie*
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:58 AM
Apr 2016

You're, again, ignoring the staggering *size* of the developing world's middle class.

Fresh_Start I pray for you and your excellent post. You will be slammed for being a globalist, Hoyt Apr 2016 #1
I know that I was concerned about the backlash. Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #3
THIS OP IS NOT A LIBERAL VIEW POINT Zira Apr 2016 #66
It's not even a viewpoint capable of counting to 10. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #98
Not a neo-liberal one though Armstead Apr 2016 #91
Is it liberal to lack arithmetic? JackRiddler Apr 2016 #97
SO we are supposed to shut up and accept the race to the bottom Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #90
You are supposed to quit treating poor foreign workers like scabs and competition. Hoyt Apr 2016 #92
America First Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #93
Yep America First and Nationalism, screw the rest of world we are the "greedy 1%ers of the world." Hoyt Apr 2016 #95
Ubsurd excuse for the Race to the bottom Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #96
"Race to bottom" and other such BS is just dog whistle against poor foreign workers. Hoyt Apr 2016 #99
World population growth is out of control... Blanks Apr 2016 #102
"Trade agreements in spite of their ugly local side effects are good for the worlds populations." Scuba Apr 2016 #2
let's ask the people in India, Philippines hill2016 Apr 2016 #6
Let's see someone in India get's a $3/day job at the expense of someone in the USA who loses ... Scuba Apr 2016 #10
I really don't think your numbers work hill2016 Apr 2016 #12
Nationalism at its ugliest. If in fact an Indian is getting $3/day, it damn sure is better than Hoyt Apr 2016 #25
So you support the Race to the Bottom. No surprise there Hoyt. None at all. Scuba Apr 2016 #29
So you see poor people wlling to work for a better life as competition and scabs. Hoyt Apr 2016 #38
Whoooose. Scuba Apr 2016 #43
It's certainly a boon for the Indian guy who was previously making 20 cents a day Recursion Apr 2016 #57
You seem like a bright guy so I'm pretty sure you can understand this ... Scuba Apr 2016 #72
Only if by that you mean "white working people" Recursion Apr 2016 #75
It's a net loss for working people. Your attempt to suggest it's racist is noted, however. Scuba Apr 2016 #80
Nope. *net* income and wages are up Recursion Apr 2016 #81
In the example I used in the thread, net income for working people is NOT up. Period. Scuba Apr 2016 #83
Yes, it is Recursion Apr 2016 #84
No. Income drops from $240.20 per day to $3.00 per day. If you think that's higher ... Scuba Apr 2016 #85
OMG! Recursion Apr 2016 #86
OMG! Series? Scuba Apr 2016 #88
That's because your example is a *complete lie* Recursion Apr 2016 #89
Your example assumes it takes 100 Indians to replace one American worker. Scuba Apr 2016 #101
A typical call center worker in the Philippines makes about $500-700 per month. DCBob Apr 2016 #76
Yup. Hyderabad call center wages are about $800 per month Recursion Apr 2016 #78
For sure there are problems with outsourcing but clearly some are benefiting. DCBob Apr 2016 #87
Agree Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #94
No need to go to India. You can ask H1B Indians R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #11
Free Trade agreements do not help with the poverty around the world. FAIR TRADE agreements do. jillan Apr 2016 #4
Did I say "free" trade agreements? Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #13
You Hillarites thought long and hard on this one. nice try litlbilly Apr 2016 #19
They're profoundly ignorant because they don't google and find out anything. Zira Apr 2016 #65
Not being in the "middle class" I can only say that Downwinder Apr 2016 #5
Exactly, they bind countries together in ways that go far beyond trade. Hoyt Apr 2016 #26
2nd in North America alone. mmonk Apr 2016 #7
Just a coinky-dink that these trade deals enrich Hillary's donors, I guess? nt Romulox Apr 2016 #8
That's just an unintended consequence. Wilms Apr 2016 #22
Your third grade sophistry is duly noted. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #9
I didn't say "Free Trade" Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #14
Which just adds to your third grade sophistry. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #17
Thank you! cheapdate Apr 2016 #55
Nafta went from one country to the next using the cheapest labor they could Zira Apr 2016 #67
How is manufacturing goods in one country katsy Apr 2016 #18
Containers are not reused? Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #35
Tons of container waste in S.F. & they're starting katsy Apr 2016 #45
You said they are not reused Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #48
Google is your friend katsy Apr 2016 #52
Thank you. Re: your last paragraph - especially not at the jwirr Apr 2016 #46
that is what they are called whether you said it or not. litlbilly Apr 2016 #20
People are being exploited around the azmom Apr 2016 #15
sources? citations? It's not true just because someone says it on the internet Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #16
There are studies by numerous governments and many academics Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #21
Agree, AND it's also not necessarily true even if said on TV either!! eom Karma13612 Apr 2016 #74
Funny, you're the same person who posted this: BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #23
Of course they are the same. TM99 Apr 2016 #31
Your concern is noted krawhitham Apr 2016 #24
"You make $40k and have insurance RadiationTherapy Apr 2016 #27
The "trade" agreements are meant to bring most of us down to that worldwide poverty level, with the djean111 Apr 2016 #28
I soundly reject your neoliberalism TM99 Apr 2016 #30
Well said A Little Weird Apr 2016 #32
^^This!!^^ dana_b Apr 2016 #33
This company pays workers $6.00 per day in Mexico. azmom Apr 2016 #44
I just got off the phone TM99 Apr 2016 #47
Besides, it costs more to live in the US, especially in the COLD north! raging moderate Apr 2016 #82
The US is 4.4% of the world population. So an American with an average income is definitely not jfern Apr 2016 #34
You need an income of 40k per year Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #36
VERY attainable for MANY Americans. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #37
40,000 is attainable for many americans Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #39
40,000 is attainable for many americans. bullshit. eom Hiraeth Apr 2016 #41
More than half make 50k or more. That is many americans. Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #49
Individual or Total household Income? either way the 40k jobs of the future. where are they? Hiraeth Apr 2016 #50
So very out of touch.... haikugal Apr 2016 #53
bubbles inside of bubbles. insulated and insular Hiraeth Apr 2016 #54
It's over $100k to be global 1% jfern Apr 2016 #42
No, it's $34K for a single individual Recursion Apr 2016 #58
$34k sounds way too low to be 80th percentile in the US jfern Apr 2016 #59
For an individual earner that sounds about right; median is $25K or so Recursion Apr 2016 #60
Household income probably makes more sense jfern Apr 2016 #63
Exploitative trade agreements are not good for workers of any country. n/t Skwmom Apr 2016 #40
Grab a dictionary..... daleanime Apr 2016 #51
You basicaally just said the middle class if fine, because others are worse. Idiot. Joob Apr 2016 #56
Oh look, more "opposing free trade makes you a racist" horseshit. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #61
More Hillarians being beyond uninformed. Zira Apr 2016 #68
Republican policies. Republican rationalization. nt vintx Apr 2016 #77
Ahh fuck, not this bullshit again. 99Forever Apr 2016 #62
How UNINFORMED can you get? I'm guessing you are a HILLARIAN because this is so bad. Zira Apr 2016 #64
I have not been proud of DU much lately.... senseandsensibility Apr 2016 #69
It's not good My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #70
If you really cared about the worlds poor TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #71
No. I think the Western middle class is in the top 80% to 95% globally, not the top 1%. pampango Apr 2016 #73
Yeah but there's so many ways to measure that it gets meaningless Recursion Apr 2016 #79
This is a national election with international implications but, there is NO NEED, at this time, to Hiraeth Apr 2016 #100
Yes, we should be concerned about other human beings notadmblnd Apr 2016 #103
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