2016 Postmortem

Cal33

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66. iT'S probably a question of timing. He is doing a lot of work, practically non-stop. I

Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:40 PM

Apr 2016

wonder how a 74-year-old guy has that much energy. He needs to win the
presidency first, and then he and Elizabeth Warren will be working together
hard to get more Progressives into Congress. Then they will be able to get
the ball really rolling and make those reforms.

The Republicans will be blocking him all the way, as they are doing with
Obama.

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That "obscene" amount of money Clooney helped raise? [View all] pnwmom Apr 2016 OP

You mean they figured out how to launder the money... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #1

Link please, other than paranoid ravings. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #2

This has been discussed here many times. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #10

Please explain how Bernie will pass any legislation with a Rethug controlled Congress. pnwmom Apr 2016 #17

If Bernie is the nominee The Old Lie Apr 2016 #22

That is the correct answer. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #35

Dream on! In Wisconsin 25% of the people who voted for Bernie either voted for NO ONE ELSE pnwmom Apr 2016 #36

Discounting that 100,000 more Republicans voted in Wisconsin The Old Lie Apr 2016 #46

What does that have to do with the fact pnwmom Apr 2016 #49

Because maybe Wisconsin Democratic Party didn't do their voter education The Old Lie Apr 2016 #53

No. You can't teach people who aren't interested, TOL. Hortensis Apr 2016 #104

Bernie's pull and coattails - just like his pull COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #41

nice switcheroo AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #32

the Rs have a deep animus to anyone with a D attached WhiteTara Apr 2016 #57

Not the same at all AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #63

Sure apcalc Apr 2016 #76

He made so many friends on both sides of the COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #101

The same way that Clinton will. karynnj Apr 2016 #42

Except Hillary is raising money to get more Dems in Congress while all Bernie is raising pnwmom Apr 2016 #44

Except she isn't. The Old Lie Apr 2016 #47

There were DSC letters send out under Bernie's name karynnj Apr 2016 #55

The rethug congress is here despite any efforts to the contrary (cough cough) by the DNC n/t Doremus Apr 2016 #69

Here comes the counterpunch "article" again thelordofhell Apr 2016 #70

It's funny how you posted that about an hour after I posted the article. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #72

Sorry, but I don't spend all day on DU posting articles written by crazy people thelordofhell Apr 2016 #82

Well I'm from the JFK/FDR wing of the Democratic Party. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #92

I'll let the great Lloyd Bentsen answer for me on your insult........ thelordofhell Apr 2016 #93

You need to re-read your response to me... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #103

By your definition, Bernie bought off at least 3 people. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #114

Eye opening that Hillary could be running such a cynical scheme, isn't it? Human101948 Apr 2016 #16

"Paranoid ravings" quickesst Apr 2016 #38

We say the machine is bad and so is its grease JackInGreen Apr 2016 #3

How will Bernie function as President without a working "machine"? Without Dems pnwmom Apr 2016 #9

And reality is still reality CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #12

That's right, agree apcalc Apr 2016 #78

Berners don't care about down ticket CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #4

Ain't that the truth Protalker Apr 2016 #14

Not one whit. nt Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #29

Ya know...I could take that a lot more seriously if ALL the money went to the down-ticket races Armstead Apr 2016 #5

Do the math. $14.5 out of $15 will go to the party. That's a big help. What is Bernie doing pnwmom Apr 2016 #13

Don't understand where you got those numbers... Human101948 Apr 2016 #24

The article says that the max going to Hillary for America will be $5000 per couple. pnwmom Apr 2016 #59

What I got from the article was... Human101948 Apr 2016 #60

^ This. I don't think pnwmom gets it. At least she is pretending not to. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #91

Bernie says: "No, not in this campaign.". Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #50

My favorite quote from BS on this subject: "We'll see." Hekate Apr 2016 #108

You are remembering that SHE is the one that not only COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #45

I support her apcalc Apr 2016 #81

Absolutely. We're not only (the only) party of Marquis COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #88

This primary is unnecessary? oregonjen Apr 2016 #87

obscene is still obscene. Downwinder Apr 2016 #6

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Yeah won't that be fun. pnwmom Apr 2016 #18

These are people who pay lip-service to democracy, until they lose. Then "The system is rigged!!11" IamMab Apr 2016 #27

Seriously ... In_The_Wind Apr 2016 #21

Don't ask me, this is the "logic" that Sanders himself has provided on this subject. It's his plan. IamMab Apr 2016 #30

I musta slept through that one. In_The_Wind Apr 2016 #34

clinton is loaded with PAC money, she can do this oldandhappy Apr 2016 #8

Bernie is combining his fund raising efforts with candidates who floriduck Apr 2016 #11

He's splitting his donations with his other candidates. The Old Lie Apr 2016 #39

Exactly. floriduck Apr 2016 #54

One candidate in Florida, right? Loki Apr 2016 #99

No, it actually is not going to down ticket candidates. That's a sham. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #15

Only $2700 per person will be on the Hillary for America ledger with the balance pnwmom Apr 2016 #26

Your article doesn't say what percentage goes to DNC and what goes to the state committees riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #74

And then the DNC gives the money to Hillary's SuperPACs. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #75

Hillary is spreading millions in corporate cash with which to corrupt & buy Democratic politicians Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #19

Facts, facts, facts ..... sister_rosa_refried Apr 2016 #20

Like my once two year old daughter Loki Apr 2016 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author tabasco Apr 2016 #23

Sanders' supporters miss that important point, probably because many aren't Democrats. Hoyt Apr 2016 #25

When ad hominem is all you have, you don't have anything. Octafish Apr 2016 #33

Is saying a lot of Sanders's supporters aren't Democrats, an ad hominem? Hoyt Apr 2016 #80

Ditto and they could care less about down ticket Dems Iliyah Apr 2016 #73

Funny. I've been here longer than you. Kittycat Apr 2016 #116

Hillary will probably help elect more Third-Way Democrats. We have too many of them already. We Cal33 Apr 2016 #28

Bernie won't get any legislation through a GOP Congress and yet he's doing very little to help. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #37

What GOP Congress in 2017? The Old Lie Apr 2016 #52

The chances that the GOP-dominated House of Representatives will remain so, if Cal33 Apr 2016 #64

iT'S probably a question of timing. He is doing a lot of work, practically non-stop. I Cal33 Apr 2016 #66

Which is why there should be campaign finance reform. Octafish Apr 2016 #31

The DNC/Clinton cabal loses more Democratic seats in the House and Senate every election tabasco Apr 2016 #40

Sounds like it's being used to buy superdelegates Lone_Wolf Apr 2016 #43

Not only not true, also not even vaguely original. nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #48

Just what we need - more Corporate Democrats. Skwmom Apr 2016 #51

So you're all for Citizens United ? ciaobaby Apr 2016 #56

I think that until Citizens united is overturned the Dems should not handicap themselves against the pnwmom Apr 2016 #58

Nice rationalization. ciaobaby Apr 2016 #62

I think you should play by the rules that are in force, but work to change them. pnwmom Apr 2016 #65

I hate to point out the obvious..... ciaobaby Apr 2016 #67

Bernie's also benefited from Karl Rove's super pac. "Crossroads" started running ads against Hillary pnwmom Apr 2016 #112

I'll close my eyes and think of England. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #111

George Clooney's Reply To That Assertion MannyG Apr 2016 #71

Double Speak ciaobaby Apr 2016 #85

You left out the key part where Clooney went to justify the fundraiser. Funny how you did that, pnwmom Apr 2016 #96

tsk tsk...not nice to edit without notice of such editing Sheepshank Apr 2016 #115

The DNC electing more 1% Corporate Democrats digs the hole deeper. But why should Clooney Skwmom Apr 2016 #61

K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #68

K&R mcar Apr 2016 #77

Sanders pull and coattails has not kept a Democratic congress, does not work that way. In fact Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #79

A reporter on MSNBC just said that, in fact, very little of it has "trickled down". nt Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #83

The Sanders' campaign knows it, his supporters know it, the media knows it. Beacool Apr 2016 #84

K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2016 #86

They know they dont care. Which is why WI is stuck with a horrible new judge for a 10 year term. Lucinda Apr 2016 #89

So why don't all those Carolina Apr 2016 #90

Human nature. It's more fun going to a party than just writing a check. pnwmom Apr 2016 #98

Just watched Clinton and Sanders interviewed on ABC This Week betsuni Apr 2016 #94

He thinks having the Dems playing by their own stricter rules will magically win them more power pnwmom Apr 2016 #95

k&r bigtree Apr 2016 #97

and it is still obscene. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #102

So define 'obscene', then. Why is Sanders' millions less obscene than Clinton's? randome Apr 2016 #106

Because Bernie's represents (and in fact, is) hard-earned $ from millions of ordinary Americans. silvershadow Apr 2016 #107

Clinton gets honest money from ordinary Americans, too. randome Apr 2016 #109

Oh I am sure she does get some, along with obscene amounts from special interests. silvershadow Apr 2016 #110

I hope they continue to raise obscene amounts of money. murielm99 Apr 2016 #105

k&r DesertRat Apr 2016 #113