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2016 Postmortem

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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:35 PM Apr 2016

This is not about the "beauty contest." I wish people would get that through their heads. [View all]

Yeah we supporters think Bernie is great as a person. And yeah, we don't like Clinton. But more important is what each candidate represents.

Bernie Sanders did not come along in a vacuum and become a Pied Piper to millions of deluded followers.

This is Primal. The Berniebros ARE angry. And there is good reason.

This has been more than a campaign. It is a movement.

He is channeling and resonating with a massive discontent, anger frustration with the status quo, and what the elites and Big Bidness have done to America. And how Democratic Party has gone AWOL -- either from cowardice or corruption or some combination of the two....This has been building for decades among older people -- and for young people it reflects their response to the shitty conditions of the era they were born into.

But his campaign also represents HOPE. Not just for "free stuff." It is an optimistic belief that we can -- as a nation -- restore moral values, public ethics and compassion in out system. And thus come together to collectively build a better life for everyone.

And it extends beyond the hardcore Bernie supporters.The same instinct encompasses all the people who have said "I really love Bernie and agree with everything he stands for. But I have to be realistic and vote for Clinton. Sigh."

Well let me state this as plainly as I can. Obviously this is IMO.

If the Democratic Party continues the swing to the right that her candidacy has brought out -- and it HAS been a defensive swing to the right -- then don't blame us if the GOP gets its own shit together and continues to clean the clock of the Democrats.

And if Clinton wins -- well there's the whole question of whether she will be able to actually govern. Beyond the inevitable GOP gridlock, she will not be able to rally public support -- nor will the Democratic Party, as a whole.

It's happy, happy time for Clinton supporters tonight.

But if you continue to ignore and dismiss and distort what Sanders represents -- and who he represents -- you do so at the peril of the future of the Democratic Party....and America.

(Hopefully I won't regret typing this tomorrow.)





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My friend, the democratic party that you remember is dead nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #1
It's been terminally ill since the Clintons came into office and the DLC took over Armstead Apr 2016 #3
Well, it's true that Democrats no longer... Adrahil Apr 2016 #7
Ah how predictable... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #11
I'm pointing out that this bizarre story you're spinning is BS. Adrahil Apr 2016 #16
This bizarre story is called a party realignment nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #17
And yet HRC is not the Wall Street-3rd Wayer playgirl everyone is making her out to be. Rex Apr 2016 #13
If she wins the presidency you'll see nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #19
I have a completely different view on what HRC is going to do in office. Rex Apr 2016 #23
You do, becuase I don't expect either to be able to do anything nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #25
Well I grew up watching Reagan destroy the country and our society. Rex Apr 2016 #27
I got here in 1984 so I know what you speak off nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #28
sorry Robbins Apr 2016 #26
This ain't even close to being over, don't let the hardcore HRC supporters get you down. Rex Apr 2016 #31
You don't get it. GoneFishin Apr 2016 #30
True I 'didn't get it' until I stopped listening to people on this site telling me how to think. Rex Apr 2016 #32
I'm sorry, I've got nothing left to lose JackInGreen Apr 2016 #2
free stuff. to people who can't be bothered to learn election procedure then complain that they are msongs Apr 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Apr 2016 #5
When yuo got nothing else to lose nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #9
Clinton voters won't get it, but it's true... polichick Apr 2016 #6
It's bigger and broader than that Armstead Apr 2016 #12
What began back then was about everyone - that's why it was so dangerous to the ptb... polichick Apr 2016 #18
I frankly am baffled why we put up with this shit collectively Armstead Apr 2016 #20
Most people will only ever be followers - it's easy to keep them in line... polichick Apr 2016 #24
It is also quite global to be honest. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #21
Great quote - it's definitely global! polichick Apr 2016 #22
The Democratic Party as it is now The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #8
But now he has lost. So you are going to have to figure out how to work WITH the Democratic Squinch Apr 2016 #10
Not threats. Apathy will scuttle you more than anything Armstead Apr 2016 #14
Hillary's supporters are not apathetic. They really, really love to vote. And most of Squinch Apr 2016 #38
No thanks - the lesser of evils is still evil. Done with that. polichick Apr 2016 #15
OK. So by your own admission, you have chosen to make yourself irrelevant. So see 'ya. Squinch Apr 2016 #36
Good luck selling that pile of horseshit. GoneFishin Apr 2016 #29
Fuck no! It's the party that is going to have to figure out how to work with us davidn3600 Apr 2016 #34
You have chosen to make yourself irrelevant, so move along. The grownups have work to do. Squinch Apr 2016 #35
So you want validation and to feel like you have control over a situation you can't control ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #37
"But his campaign also represents HOPE" pat_k Apr 2016 #33
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