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That Guy 888

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38. There are a lot of reasons I'm not a Catholic and that article hits a lot of them.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

I never said that Pope Francis is perfect, just that he's the best Pope in my lifetime. Unfortunately he still thinks, among other things, that women shouldn't be ordained into the Priesthood, members of the clergy shouldn't marry, anti-choice, etc, etc, etc.

As far as Pope Benedict goes, like a lot of religious leaders, he could sound reasonable on occasion(sharing money with the poor and hungry, condemning violence against gays) talk is different than actions. I don't know why he resigned, but he was one of the senior Vatican officials who "handled" child molestation cases. As I understand it, usually by covering it up.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/11/pope-complicit-child-abuse-say-victims

That view was echoed by David Clohessy in the US, executive director of SNAP (Survivors' Network of those Abused by Priests), an organisation with 12,000 members: "His record is terrible. Before he became pope, his predecessor put him in charge of the abuse crisis.

"He has read thousands of pages of reports of the abuse cases from across the world. He knows more about clergy sex crimes and cover-ups than anyone else in the church yet he has done precious little to protect children."

Jakob Purkarthofer, of Austria's Platform for Victims of Church Violence, said: "Ratzinger was part of the system and co-responsible for these crimes."
The Pope was only a factor in Bernie's mind. Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #1
Hmmm, Pope Francis is enormous. The question was whether Hortensis Apr 2016 #22
Maybe he should have gone a little easier on Israel. n/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #2
Both. nt Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #3
Bernie's the only presidential candidate... GoldenThunder Apr 2016 #4
Interesting you should mention the Vatican and flames nolawarlock Apr 2016 #5
If Clinton had an audience with the Pope how would you react? That Guy 888 Apr 2016 #31
On the contrary ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #32
I'm no longer a member of the Catholic Church , but the current Pope is the best one I've seen That Guy 888 Apr 2016 #35
Perhaps ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #37
There are a lot of reasons I'm not a Catholic and that article hits a lot of them. That Guy 888 Apr 2016 #38
Well there is that. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #39
Yeah, Hillary won the Catholic Vote in New York! Cha Apr 2016 #6
Yay! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #7
Well, there's this! Cha Apr 2016 #8
'magine that! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #23
Strongly. And the Protestant vote. But Bernie carried the vote pnwmom Apr 2016 #14
And, she won the Jewish vote.. Cha Apr 2016 #18
Does that mean the frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #9
Lol! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #10
He went there to speak on an issue important to him. Punkingal Apr 2016 #11
This is untrue. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #12
You are pitiful, like I said. Punkingal Apr 2016 #15
Lol! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #17
He spoke on income inequality at the Vatican, which is an issue he speaks on EVERY DAY. Punkingal Apr 2016 #19
This rage is unhealthy. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #26
What rage is that? Punkingal Apr 2016 #27
Damn nolawarlock Apr 2016 #21
I didn't call you a name. I offered you sympathy for your sad state. Punkingal Apr 2016 #24
Ah. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #28
He was speaking at a conference celebrating a 25 year old encyclical about how capitalism pnwmom Apr 2016 #16
The Pope said if anyone thought the handshake was political pnwmom Apr 2016 #13
That doesn't mean squat ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #29
Mind you, nolawarlock Apr 2016 #30
The pope is ok, but he's no George Clooney. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #20
LOL. pnwmom Apr 2016 #25
It backfired! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #33
Appears some of the posters here prefer David Brock to Pope Francis. That says a lot. Impedimentus Apr 2016 #34
Apples and Dinosaurs nolawarlock Apr 2016 #36
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