2016 Postmortem

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96. I'm sure they did. Facts however are a different issue. Tens of thousands of Bernie supporters, more

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:22 PM

Apr 2016

actually, were denied the right to vote in the NY primary. Bernie Supporters, I know some of them. Shame isn't it, that the Dem Party now looks worse than the Repubs when it comes to voter suppression. Odd too that the same thing happened in Az, now under investigation by the DOJ, not that it will come to anything since again it was Bernie supporters who were most affected.

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I hate this spin that Clinton supporters don't care about voting irregularities [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 OP

I think there is a willful misconstruing of the Primary Process Sheepshank Apr 2016 #1

i hate a lot of the rules, but most of them have been around for a long ass time La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #3

The endless campaigning is wearing and creates much hate and discontent IMHO Sheepshank Apr 2016 #8

vote counting by blackboxes favors hc too questionseverything Apr 2016 #9

I agree but I see nothing wrong with same day registration. floriduck Apr 2016 #38

i am ambivalent about same day registration, but it's not a huge sticking point with me La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #40

Actually the six months rule was to change party affiliation, voter registration did not Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #55

right. and people who work on saturdays. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #61

And caregivers, and people who don't have transportation.. LisaM Apr 2016 #107

It's a cross between WILLFUL misconstruing, and having the attitude that anyone should be MADem Apr 2016 #13

How do you justify the Big Tent concept. floriduck Apr 2016 #42

I think of it as... JSup Apr 2016 #67

I understand and agree with you. But the post I responded to it elitist in nature. floriduck Apr 2016 #71

the spin is EVERY SINGLE vote allegedly "lost" is direct fraud against sanders, committed personally msongs Apr 2016 #2

i find this sort of extrapolation to be dangerous because it willfully La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #5

Wanna join a party? apcalc Apr 2016 #41

Many of them don't. NY has crappy election rules, always has. Her supporters on DU celebrate that. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #4

Who is celebrating crappy NY election rules around here?` apnu Apr 2016 #10

where do you see celebration that new york has crappy rules? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #11

So you think you should get to vote but people who don't agree with you shouldn't. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #82

what are you talking about? at which point did i say people who dont agree with me shouldnt get to La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #85

You said you agree with closed primaries. What exactly do you think those do? They keep indies onecaliberal Apr 2016 #97

such hyperbole. I do believe in closed primaries, because if you care enough to vote in the primary La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #98

You care enough to keep other people from voting and don't bother with the reply I know where you onecaliberal Apr 2016 #99

actually when people vote my candidate wins (note caucus turnouts are notoriously low, which is La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #103

Note: She LOSES in EVERY SINGLE open primary with the exception of Texas, and they damn onecaliberal Apr 2016 #105

that's not accurate La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #109

Nancy Reagan brush Apr 2016 #12

Sorry no it was Ron and Nancy both that she lavished with praise. The quote: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #24

could you show what you mean by cheered? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #29

Look it up yourself, I'm not your gofer. None of them objected, not one had anything to say except Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #48

lol. i thought as much. she's trying to be nice, is so far away from cheered La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #50

How absurd. Like someone used forceps to pluck the Bernie-Victims from the lists. MADem Apr 2016 #14

And what did I say that contradicts that, MAD? Nothing. You are off topic. What I said is that her Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #32

Yeah, they care so "little" they are at the forefront of actually DOING SOMETHING about it. MADem Apr 2016 #6

Also a bunch of Democrats in NY already are sounding alarm bells and investigations into the matter. apnu Apr 2016 #7

Given the demographic makeup, it is likely the lion's share of those lost votes would have gone to MADem Apr 2016 #15

it's also unlikely that more than 5-10% of those on the purged list geek tragedy Apr 2016 #18

I live in Brooklyn, so when out of state Standers geek tragedy Apr 2016 #16

i live here too La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #17

We didn't see that happening in Wisconsin or Michigan geek tragedy Apr 2016 #21

one trump vote? what district is this? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #22

CD9, border of Prospect Heights and Crown Heights geek tragedy Apr 2016 #44

Their "concern" is new, because white people may be affected. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #19

Lot of truth in that. Hoyt Apr 2016 #20

well most of the alleged probs did occur in the "south"....south NY lol nt msongs Apr 2016 #27

Ding, ding, ding...and you win the prize. all american girl Apr 2016 #28

This. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #79

Yeah right. smiley Apr 2016 #112

Don't forget all the white people in AZ. frylock Apr 2016 #117

The why didn't the Clintons stand up for Blacks purged in Florida in 2000? Skwmom Apr 2016 #23

you're saying the demographic she is winning the most, is the one she want to disenfranchise La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #31

Madam Secretary, you didn't answer the question. frylock Apr 2016 #118

That's been their ploy all along. How can one be against economic justice, healthcare for all, etc. Hoyt Apr 2016 #25

They don't care, and won't until November. Who will help her? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #26

i literally have no idea what you are talking about. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #30

I am still heartbroken about 2004. Xyzse Apr 2016 #51

In Brooklyn it is likely Hillary's voters were more disenfranchised considering hrmjustin Apr 2016 #33

While I think that's unfair and far too broad-brush... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #34

let me ask you, how many BERNIE voters were crying after Michigan and voting irregularities there? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #35

*sigh* Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #49

so because i asked you a similar question, i must not be able to recognize civil agreement La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #52

can you link us up to some of MI voting iregularities? were they as massive as NY's? azurnoir Apr 2016 #69

sure La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #72

so ballot shortages that's it? no voter purges the ballots were apparently azurnoir Apr 2016 #95

I agree Dem2 Apr 2016 #36

Oh DO you? Then why y'all calling us paranoid, CT, excuse-making & LOLing at us? senz Apr 2016 #37

what are you talking about? who should i get this story straight with? my cabal of hillary voters La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #39

They don't call them 'Voting irregularities' AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #43

oh you again. no, that's not true. and after our conversation yesterday La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #45

I can post op after op after op if you wish AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #46

you can do whatever you want but a person who doesn't acknowledge that HRC is winning POC by large La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #47

Barack Obama has been President for eight years... Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #53

so now it's not even HRC, it's obama too? his justice department constantly defended the VRA La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #54

I said effectively. As in lead this nationally, made it an issue, campaign finance reform, the whole Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #70

posts like this is how you end up losing the black vote by the way La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #88

I absolutely don't care about "the black vote". Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #114

sorry but your fellow Hillary supporters think it is a Bernie supporter conspiracy theory because he m-lekktor Apr 2016 #56

^^^this desmiller Apr 2016 #59

not this at all. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #63

I'm sorry but i think you created this OP to play around with us Berners. desmiller Apr 2016 #64

what do you mean to play around with you? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #65

Like you replied "not this" when I agree with m-lekktor. desmiller Apr 2016 #66

ok. I'll link you to a couple of articles that somewhat reflect my views La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #76

A fair question with a fair answer. desmiller Apr 2016 #89

there is a great study called 'the emotional dog and its rational tail' by jonathan haidt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #91

Sounds like a good read. thx. desmiller Apr 2016 #94

the conspiracy part is where you extrapolate from voting issues to explain why bernie lost La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #62

126,000 Registered Voters in Brooklyn ALONE were scrubbed from the rolls and were unable to sabrina 1 Apr 2016 #57

do you know what winning a county means? a large amount of space does not mean a large number of La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #60

Well the "not popular" lady just won, resoundingly. Lucinda Apr 2016 #74

No, she didn't win. When hundreds of thousands of voters are denied the right to vote, that is not sabrina 1 Apr 2016 #90

The Times article posits that Hillary was actually most hurt by the voting problems, not Bernie Lucinda Apr 2016 #93

I'm sure they did. Facts however are a different issue. Tens of thousands of Bernie supporters, more sabrina 1 Apr 2016 #96

First AZ and now NY doing serious investigations nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #77

They are losing and lashing out. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #58

Based on empirical evidence, it isn't spin. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #68

what empirical evidence? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #73

It is all out there in the public domain. Look for it. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #75

there are numbers that demonstate that HRC supporters differ in voting rights issues La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #80

Several Hillary supporters have been vigorously defending the "nothing to see here" meme to me. lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #78

The comptroller, the mayor, and the AG are all Hillary supporters too. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #81

I thought you were referring to Hillary people on DU, who appear to be just fine with irregularities lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #83

i disagree with the premise of this, but no I was talking about HRC supporters overall La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #84

Well I hope the vast majority out there are different than the ones in here. lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #86

the entire democratic party is against voter disenfranchisement La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #87

You must have missed all those posts then. Marrah_G Apr 2016 #92

it's part of a theme: The presumed Presidency of Hillary Clinton: The end of LIfe as we we know it. Bill USA Apr 2016 #100

You may hate it, but it isn't spin artislife Apr 2016 #101

no, it is spin. the spin part comes when you guys think you would have won with the votes that were La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #102

Way to get your OP numbers up, answering each post artislife Apr 2016 #104

so i should not have answered each question/accusation? what a BS accusation. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #106

I am Latina artislife Apr 2016 #108

your accusations/narrative are completely off topic. you should and can vote for the person you La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #110

You are who I think of artislife Apr 2016 #111

"I hate this spin that Clinton supporters don't care about voting irregularities" Aerows Apr 2016 #113

The party made many of the rules that enforce disenfranchisement. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #115

I guess post after post after post of roffle smilies in response to concerns.. frylock Apr 2016 #116

In 2009, Democrats in DC had an opportunity to protect our elections and voting rights. Scuba Apr 2016 #119

Of course, they care that they work flawlessly and remain largely unprovable. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #120