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Sparkly

(24,141 posts)
22. Cluster bombs, Social Security means-testing
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

Cluster bombs: I need to review this further. I understand the current ban is not really working, and I don't know the rationale for her vote. However, I am sure she is not a homicidal maniac rejoicing in injuring civilians.

Social Security: I don't see the "means-testing" problem. She wants the wealthy to pay more.

Expand Social Security for those who need it most and who are treated unfairly by the current system—including women who are widows and those who took significant time out of the paid workforce to take care of their children, aging parents, or ailing family members. Social Security works well, but it should work better. Hillary will fight to expand Social Security for those who need it most and who are treated unfairly today.

Preserve Social Security for decades to come by asking the wealthiest to contribute more. Social Security must continue to guarantee dignity in retirement for future generations. Hillary understands that there is no way to accomplish that goal without asking the highest-income Americans to pay more, including options to tax some of their income above the current Social Security cap, and taxing some of their income not currently taken into account by the Social Security system.

Kissinger kinship RobertEarl Apr 2016 #1
Could you cite the quote please? Sparkly Apr 2016 #2
she voted for the bankruptcy bill, that alone should do it. litlbilly Apr 2016 #18
Which bankruptcy bill? Squinch Apr 2016 #124
The one that Elizabeth Warren talked with her about in the 90s All in it together Apr 2016 #255
Well then provide the link or name the bill. Because your statement right now is that Squinch Apr 2016 #276
It's been on DU many times All in it together Apr 2016 #326
So the best you can do to describe this bill that has turned you against Hillary is to say that Squinch Apr 2016 #334
Understand *this* Baobab Apr 2016 #380
You again. Do you never address the subject in the post you are replying to? Squinch Apr 2016 #391
Wouldn't it be... HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #393
Don't you know that we are now a full on Republican spin machine, and must always Squinch Apr 2016 #395
Lol HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #397
A bunch of times. I saw it in Breitbart, and they know the score. Squinch Apr 2016 #398
Word. HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #400
Here ya go, it's all this IPad can do. All in it together Apr 2016 #346
So, you mean the one that she ultimately voted against: Squinch Apr 2016 #351
Her specific positions today evolved since Bernie's tutuledge. She is hawkish. See SNL... snowy owl Apr 2016 #34
LOL, Hillary was not directed by Bernie. Give me a break. NT BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #65
No, that's triangulation...a third way given. Along with 'whatever it takes'.. haikugal Apr 2016 #87
What policies, though? Squinch Apr 2016 #125
SNL... okaaaaay.... Squinch Apr 2016 #122
SNL...really? HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #396
Refusing to provide health care for all, floriduck Apr 2016 #70
Not true. Sparkly Apr 2016 #98
So she DOES support fracking. floriduck Apr 2016 #103
"we have to have a system in place that prevents further fracking" Sparkly Apr 2016 #107
You stick to your story and I will mine. nm floriduck Apr 2016 #112
FYI Here's how Congress feels about legalizing recreational MJ. floriduck Apr 2016 #123
If president, Bernie will work to take marijuana off the list of controlled substances. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #128
If she doesn't think fracking is good, she should have said so from the beginning. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #156
If a candidate doesnt initially support a position and then changes their mind or puffy socks Apr 2016 #172
You won't get an answer from them Loki Apr 2016 #180
The CFMA was in a budget resolution. It was snuck in by Phil Gramm and one of Hillary's advisors JDPriestly Apr 2016 #184
Strange you should trust Elizabeth Warren, she both agrees with Hillary's Wall Street plan and was a puffy socks Apr 2016 #188
I'm 72. I trust my experience with people. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #215
"my gut feeling" Sparkly Apr 2016 #222
It depends. Rational thought is important, but gut feelings can be very right. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #365
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #350
She is against the TPP? Time for change Apr 2016 #165
The WTO-GATS trade deal Bill signed in 1995 hijacked the entire worlds public services, health care Baobab Apr 2016 #208
de-criminalizing marijuana. period. forget the medical half-way. floppyboo Apr 2016 #138
such talk frightens the vodka and shuffleboard set. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #470
Her much vaunted health care plan was a diversion from the truth which was that they were underminin Baobab Apr 2016 #207
I understand her position on fracking within the United States femmedem Apr 2016 #233
Changing the scheduling from I to II still leaves both recreational AND medical cannabis illegal at Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #246
If she is against single payer, she is against universal health care eridani Apr 2016 #392
Actually.... Joob Apr 2016 #474
Kissinger is a big, big problem for me. I had to read his first book in college and that course JDPriestly Apr 2016 #153
I have no idea what the other poster was saying about Kissinger, Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #175
Made me shudder. The Clintons have pulled the wool over the eyes of too many Democrats. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #290
Apparently, it is. Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #357
Ronald Reagan HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #399
Shhhhh, don't let them know that people of different political leanings can actually be very fond all american girl Apr 2016 #417
Are any of them named George Bush? If not, none of my comment applies to you. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #479
Hillary's kind of "globalism" Baobab Apr 2016 #272
SHE BROUGHT IN KISSINGER! JackRiddler Apr 2016 #454
War, fracking, the TPP, student debt, cluster bombs, means-testing Social Security, djean111 Apr 2016 #3
I second this SheenaR Apr 2016 #7
Thank you. Two at a time: War and fracking. Sparkly Apr 2016 #12
Excellent reply. auntpurl Apr 2016 #17
Fracking is terrible for the environment, sure frackers are supporting it All in it together Apr 2016 #44
"... he thinks carefully about what we commit our military men and women to doing." puffy socks Apr 2016 #160
Hillary was wrong to trust Bush. She just does not have the good judgment Bernie has. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #171
Bernie has good judgement? puffy socks Apr 2016 #181
I agree with Bernie's votes on aid to Israel and Egypt and to go to war in Yugoslavia and Somalia. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #187
Bernie voted for the 98 Iraq bill that called for toppling Hussein's govt. puffy socks Apr 2016 #451
And this is just crazy talk. puffy socks Apr 2016 #452
Her father was self-employed. She was the graduate of a prominent JDPriestly Apr 2016 #471
Bernie Sanders voted in favor of giving George Bush unilateral war powers following 9/11 Loki Apr 2016 #185
I agree with the invasion of Afghanistan assuming we were told the truth, and that is where Al Qaeda JDPriestly Apr 2016 #190
So you're ok if your guy does it. Loki Apr 2016 #231
He was voting to fund the troops. He stands by our troops. He is not a pacifist. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #374
It isn't judgement so much as a coherent political philosophy when it comes to international Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #363
The Saudi involvement in 9/11 was very clear. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #186
No kidding. Sparkly Apr 2016 #234
And Bernie did not make that mistake because he bothered to read the documents on which JDPriestly Apr 2016 #366
Hillary gave this vote to GWB and gave him the awesome responsibility, great idea. All in it together Apr 2016 #275
Hillary's Iraq War vote was most likely cast out of political LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #384
The military is a great hammer Meteor Man Apr 2016 #58
Stop all fracking now! Meteor Man Apr 2016 #66
Ban all fossil fuel leasing! Meteor Man Apr 2016 #72
Easy to say. Sparkly Apr 2016 #110
End all fossil fuel tax breaks now! Meteor Man Apr 2016 #117
Yup. Sparkly Apr 2016 #131
And of course, like Obama (and I do like him), Hillary will appoint representatives from the very JDPriestly Apr 2016 #161
"We came, we saw, he died haha."= pro war. nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #182
So much sympathy for Gaddafi on DU these days. Sparkly Apr 2016 #223
You know, I thought we all didn't like him. I'm not one who wants someone to die, all american girl Apr 2016 #419
TPP and Student Debt Sparkly Apr 2016 #16
she is also willing to put SS on the chopping block. litlbilly Apr 2016 #19
I don't know where you're getting that. Sparkly Apr 2016 #23
she was for chained CPI, look it up litlbilly Apr 2016 #25
I looked it up. I'm not seeing that. Sparkly Apr 2016 #47
But if Hillary makes SS into a means tested program which is what she said, All in it together Apr 2016 #46
Can you show where she said that? Squinch Apr 2016 #132
You dont get it- If GATS or the WTO says something is the way it is, THATS THE WAY IT IS Baobab Apr 2016 #213
"HRC is a compulsive liar" -- this is rightwing rhetoric. Let's stay on point, please. Sparkly Apr 2016 #224
I stand by my statement Baobab Apr 2016 #225
So "let's stay on point" is a no-go. Got it. Sparkly Apr 2016 #232
Do you see this URL? Type it back to me. Baobab Apr 2016 #236
Maybe you could tell me what it is. Sparkly Apr 2016 #243
Cite seer is a archive site funded by the NSF, the article is in the International journal of health Baobab Apr 2016 #270
Trade Agreement Threats to Health Care Policy Baobab Apr 2016 #271
So all that boils down to the fact that you can NOT show anywhere where she said that. Squinch Apr 2016 #273
Do you mean in 1994, while they were signing away our public services including healthcare forever? Baobab Apr 2016 #281
Again, you cannot show me where Hillary said she's going to means test SS. Squinch Apr 2016 #283
How about Bill Clinton signing a WTO deal that led to the repeal of Glass-Steagall and the subsequ Baobab Apr 2016 #287
Again, you cannot show me where Hillary said she's going to means test SS. Squinch Apr 2016 #291
I didnt say that, but read up on GATS Article I:3 (b) and (c) it will explain a LOT about why I hav Baobab Apr 2016 #300
Again, you cannot show me where Hillary said she's going to means test SS. Squinch Apr 2016 #303
Where did I say of the sort- you have me confused with somebody else Baobab Apr 2016 #313
No, dear. It is you who are confused. Which apparently makes you quite pissy and obnoxious. Squinch Apr 2016 #317
Show me WHERE you think I said that? Baobab Apr 2016 #320
AGAIN, see my post #132 to which you replied, which began this conversation. Squinch Apr 2016 #335
YOU were responding to the previous poster, "all in one together" Baobab Apr 2016 #341
You're kind of a loon, aren't you? Squinch Apr 2016 #342
she's going to pick and chose who will be Karma13612 Apr 2016 #461
Oh, for fuck's sake. So raising the lowest threshholds of SS to benefit the poorest elderly is a Squinch Apr 2016 #467
Can't be following her getting clues all the time to her positions All in it together Apr 2016 #280
So, again, you can't show anywhere where she said that. Squinch Apr 2016 #282
Well played Squinch HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #406
It's not me, it's Sparkly doing the heavy work here. But I am beginning to see that there are Squinch Apr 2016 #408
She was my senator too HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #409
Oh, yum! Enjoy! Squinch Apr 2016 #411
check out this response I offered to another Karma13612 Apr 2016 #462
Nah. Given your drivel response about means testing, I don't think it's worth my effort. Squinch Apr 2016 #468
Hillary "says" a lot of stuff. None of it is believable any more. djean111 Apr 2016 #26
Her actions speak much, much louder than her hollow words. Maedhros Apr 2016 #106
I thought you guys liked a "people's revolution" Sparkly Apr 2016 #227
That made no sense whatsoever. Maedhros Apr 2016 #229
Well it wouldn't, if you have your mind made up. Sparkly Apr 2016 #237
Yes, we looked at issues, words, and actual deeds, and made up our own minds. djean111 Apr 2016 #414
Hillary has not "said" half the things you guys think she has said. But clearly you will not be Squinch Apr 2016 #401
Well, you are giving us generalities about "why" - we'll go with the original: Bernie. snowy owl Apr 2016 #36
Sanders has lost. Going with what you see as the original isn't an option. Squinch Apr 2016 #404
She started out calling it the gold standard of trade agreements mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #89
Your student loan answer is fluff angrychair Apr 2016 #90
Her plan on student debt, as now, will require a huge bureaucracy and a lot of financial forms that JDPriestly Apr 2016 #192
Loans are not the answer as jobs as we know them now are going away for good Baobab Apr 2016 #209
Cluster bombs, Social Security means-testing Sparkly Apr 2016 #22
See above means testing a program (SS) becomes let's do welfare reform again. All in it together Apr 2016 #57
No, more like "the system is rigged" Sparkly Apr 2016 #235
Right, the RW doesn't want to fund means tested programs. All in it together Apr 2016 #284
That has nothing to do with her platform. Sparkly Apr 2016 #312
You seem to think we can trust her platform All in it together Apr 2016 #323
LOL Sparkly Apr 2016 #325
So basically, you are going to demonize her whether she agrees with you or not. Squinch Apr 2016 #412
She has never said she would means test social security. Squinch Apr 2016 #405
Her words on Social Security translate into means-testing. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #195
Which words, please? Sparkly Apr 2016 #248
But other than that, Brother... Orsino Apr 2016 #24
Last two: Single Payer and Abortion Sparkly Apr 2016 #38
Are you part of that Brock group that has $1mil to respond on social media? broiles Apr 2016 #42
Judging by the sheer number of words, I think it's a distinct possibility jack_krass Apr 2016 #45
So, when did writing in complete sentences become a bad thing? all american girl Apr 2016 #56
I was joking. I doubt there's many, if any paid hacks posting in this forum... jack_krass Apr 2016 #75
So sorry, I keep seeing about paid posters, but I think you are right about here. all american girl Apr 2016 #91
I don't doubt there are paid posters, just that they're here :P) jack_krass Apr 2016 #120
You know, I think they are everywhere for everything. Tis the times all american girl Apr 2016 #169
Right? wildeyed Apr 2016 #205
Nope, just had a little time this afternoon. Sparkly Apr 2016 #49
Do you have anything to say about the facts that are being presented here? Squinch Apr 2016 #136
More word parsing by you and Hillary, and triangulating. All in it together Apr 2016 #63
Which words do you feel are parsed or triangulating? Squinch Apr 2016 #139
I lived in Europe for years and enjoyed several of their single-payer, universal healthcare JDPriestly Apr 2016 #196
Nailed it! Faux pas Apr 2016 #53
She accepts the RW narrative on abortion loyalsister Apr 2016 #4
+1 demmiblue Apr 2016 #6
Not true. Sparkly Apr 2016 #52
Except when she isn't mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #85
I have not seen that. Sparkly Apr 2016 #130
Here you go mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #173
"I see nothing about 9th month" Sparkly Apr 2016 #238
Oh, the "context" explanaition mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #274
Okay. Sparkly Apr 2016 #314
Ooooooo, Sparkly, they got you...do you feel the bern all american girl Apr 2016 #421
I've seen people who are against her suggesting that, but I have never seen any credible source Squinch Apr 2016 #142
Not quite. Chezboo Apr 2016 #93
Not many people support no restrictions on abortion. Zynx Apr 2016 #168
Actually, in recent discussions she has weinied out of most abortions. peace13 Apr 2016 #133
What makes you say so? I have not seen this. Squinch Apr 2016 #144
It was in an interview. peace13 Apr 2016 #154
I've never heard this from her. Or anything like this. And I can't imagine PP would be backing her Squinch Apr 2016 #159
Don't get me started on PP. peace13 Apr 2016 #415
PP is all that stood between me and disaster many times. And that is true for millions of women. Squinch Apr 2016 #416
Don't be angry. peace13 Apr 2016 #418
Of all the things that are thrown around in this election, that is the ONE that makes me feel rage. Squinch Apr 2016 #420
I'm very sorry you feel that way. peace13 Apr 2016 #422
Rest assured. I feel great malice toward those who are making it harder for PP to raise the money Squinch Apr 2016 #423
I think I found the interview you are talking about. Was it the one with Squinch Apr 2016 #394
I know she did loyalsister Apr 2016 #193
Sorry. You are wrong. Sparkly Apr 2016 #256
Who other than pro-lifers say "unborn person"? loyalsister Apr 2016 #288
Everyone is using lots of angry words, but no one is providing any links that show that Hillary Squinch Apr 2016 #278
Her own words loyalsister Apr 2016 #285
Read the whole statement. She is saying that it could never happen. Squinch Apr 2016 #289
She said it hasn't happened, but she's open to it if it does loyalsister Apr 2016 #294
She's saying there will never be a bill that fits that criteria. Squinch Apr 2016 #296
Direct quote from her mouth loyalsister Apr 2016 #298
I see the problem here. Squinch Apr 2016 #332
She enablingaccepting the narrative loyalsister Apr 2016 #347
She's trying to put in place a nationwide protection for women who Squinch Apr 2016 #348
She sold out women and children in the 90s loyalsister Apr 2016 #349
Oh, just admit that she never moved to restrict abortion rights in any way. She has been completely Squinch Apr 2016 #353
I'm talking about what she says herself that she is open to loyalsister Apr 2016 #368
Now you are being ridiculous. She is trying to expand abortion rights, and somehow that Squinch Apr 2016 #390
Since you are so certain loyalsister Apr 2016 #428
I've already shown that what she said in that interview was that she wants to extend abortion rights Squinch Apr 2016 #435
so naive. nashville_brook Apr 2016 #328
Wrong. Sparkly Apr 2016 #333
I would suggest you look at post #332. Squinch does a very good job. all american girl Apr 2016 #424
i would suggest you look at history. nashville_brook Apr 2016 #437
Hillary's history is one of absolutely consistent and strong support for women's rights, including Squinch Apr 2016 #448
this article lists a few of her anti-progressive actions: amborin Apr 2016 #5
The way you posed your question should give you all the answer you need........ Sivart Apr 2016 #8
The way that you refuse to answer the question wildeyed Apr 2016 #9
I didnt refuse to answer at all..... Sivart Apr 2016 #10
You did refuse. wildeyed Apr 2016 #194
You clearly don't understand your own words..... Sivart Apr 2016 #198
Okay -- I see "fracking, the banks, use of military force" Sparkly Apr 2016 #247
Hillary doesn't support the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall. All in it together Apr 2016 #292
Right. Because it's slightly more complex than that. Sparkly Apr 2016 #302
What specific policy do you think she spouts beedle Apr 2016 #11
Her stance on Cannabis. DookDook Apr 2016 #13
Agreed. Her stance is what lost Colorado, Alaska and Washington. shalafi Apr 2016 #28
and the states that have legalized mj have drops in the opiate deaths questionseverything Apr 2016 #60
She doesn't support the "for profit prison industry" Sparkly Apr 2016 #64
history tells us the clintons practically invented the for profit prison industry questionseverything Apr 2016 #81
If you've decided not to believe anything she says Sparkly Apr 2016 #105
i believe what i have seen and lived thru questionseverything Apr 2016 #118
I believe what I have seen and lived through, as well. Sparkly Apr 2016 #127
Yes, and also a win/win for the pharmaceutical industry that hc gets $ from. All in it together Apr 2016 #69
yes the pharms would like nothing better than to take a weed anyone can grow questionseverything Apr 2016 #86
Exactly, then they'd be all for it. All in it together Apr 2016 #297
And drop in opiates equals less Trump supporters! nt floppyboo Apr 2016 #170
I don't see that as left/right. Sparkly Apr 2016 #61
The problem is that the federal government is already involved. potone Apr 2016 #166
I'm not versed in her position on recreational marijuana. I know she is supportive of medical Squinch Apr 2016 #150
I don't think any show her as not being a democrat. I'ts a big tent. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #14
What's her stance on the Death Penalty? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #15
She doesn't want to abolish it. nt DookDook Apr 2016 #31
Which is absolutely disgusting. A real Democrat would oppose it. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #67
She'd like to see it struck down. Sparkly Apr 2016 #71
This from the article: cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #80
She "faced sharp questions" on those issues. Sparkly Apr 2016 #116
Well first lets define liberal WDIM Apr 2016 #20
Excellent post. Thanks. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #199
Well said! deathrind Apr 2016 #383
That's all we do here. How do you miss it? This says a lot about the bubble you're in. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #21
+1 leeroysphitz Apr 2016 #35
Honduras SHRED Apr 2016 #27
Allegedly. Sparkly Apr 2016 #59
It was a military coup and our own state department said so Chiquitita Apr 2016 #143
As with Libya, it seems you like the idea of a Revolution Sparkly Apr 2016 #228
uh, wha? Chiquitita Apr 2016 #449
Hillary said part of the coup were legal and parts weren't creeksneakers2 Apr 2016 #382
if parts aren't legal, then is the coup legal? Chiquitita Apr 2016 #450
What choice was there? creeksneakers2 Apr 2016 #469
She decided what to do as SoS, and acted Chiquitita Apr 2016 #478
I think they call this a hanging curveball kaleckim Apr 2016 #29
First sentence Sparkly Apr 2016 #68
In the present tense.... Sivart Apr 2016 #76
In her recent past, she was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress redstateblues Apr 2016 #322
God forbid we look back at anything not present tense, how about future tense? All in it together Apr 2016 #79
We could go around and around revisiting the 1990s. Sparkly Apr 2016 #101
You are all over the place logically kaleckim Apr 2016 #115
I'd like to discuss her policy proposals. Sparkly Apr 2016 #126
Man, this is freakin funny..... Sivart Apr 2016 #200
That's correct. Sparkly Apr 2016 #230
I wouldn't vote for GWB because of what happened during his presidency in addition to the JDPriestly Apr 2016 #202
GWB, and any other past presidents, are not at issue. Sparkly Apr 2016 #239
But the principle that when you hire someone, you ask for a resume and you look to see JDPriestly Apr 2016 #369
You are saying that the Clintons didn't pull the party to the right? All in it together Apr 2016 #306
That's right. Sparkly Apr 2016 #311
What nonsense kaleckim Apr 2016 #463
So kaleckim Apr 2016 #108
No, her record is clear. Sparkly Apr 2016 #113
"I'm not reading your posts past the first sentence" kaleckim Apr 2016 #121
You're not giving "objective reality" Sparkly Apr 2016 #134
So, essentially kaleckim Apr 2016 #446
I see you are ignoring the majority of content of a very substantive post. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #183
It's really hard for a Hillary supporter to have to deal with the fact that we who support JDPriestly Apr 2016 #211
Sorry. We don't get to limit comments on DU in that way. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #201
It's my thread. Sparkly Apr 2016 #249
CTR... deathrind Apr 2016 #30
Sanders vs. Clinton on Issues Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #32
Not correct. Sparkly Apr 2016 #73
Bernie Sanders wants to federally legalize marijuana. Clinton doesn't. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #95
His bill has zero co-sponsors. Sparkly Apr 2016 #102
Awesome, her bill has zero sponsors too. peace13 Apr 2016 #140
She's not in the Senate...so how could that be? all american girl Apr 2016 #427
But the one she wrote while she was in the Senate... peace13 Apr 2016 #429
Oh, what bill is that? Thanks all american girl Apr 2016 #430
My point exactly! peace13 Apr 2016 #431
Huh? all american girl Apr 2016 #433
If the states are to truly legalize marijuana, it needs to be taken off the controlled substance JDPriestly Apr 2016 #220
I wonder how these states are managing Sparkly Apr 2016 #250
Some of the biggest problems with pot legalization are banking and taxation. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #304
How close is it to getting passed federally? Sparkly Apr 2016 #307
Not close at all. Just like plenty of HRC proposals aren't close at all to becoming law. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #309
Hyde Sparkly Apr 2016 #316
The states can crack down themselves if they want to. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #371
Ah states rights = ---- got it dr60omg Apr 2016 #163
Bernie wants to take marijuana off the controlled substances list. Is she willing to do that. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #212
He can want it all he wants. Sparkly Apr 2016 #258
But until marijuana is off the list of controlled substances, the federal government can enforce JDPriestly Apr 2016 #260
When's the last time the feds stormed Colorado to crack down on pot? Sparkly Apr 2016 #266
Obama has led the feds not to, and Clinton respects his example. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #308
It's a matter of the law. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #373
Well my state is run by the Republicans, and if you buy MJ in one state you can't take it across All in it together Apr 2016 #310
bankruptcy bill, iraq war, minimum wage, kissinger, dlc affiliation, lgbt, crimebill, healthcare... leeroysphitz Apr 2016 #33
I don't see "progressives" being vilified. Sparkly Apr 2016 #74
Hatred. Opposition is now hatred? I mean even STAUNCH opposition shouldn't be labeled leeroysphitz Apr 2016 #82
I agree with you. Staunch opposition is one thing. Sparkly Apr 2016 #94
That's politics. People don't just vote on ideas. They also vote for a person. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #217
I'm taking the "personalities" out of it Sparkly Apr 2016 #252
Actually in my case, I just really like Bernie. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #257
I know "you just like him" Sparkly Apr 2016 #261
You say you want reasonable discussion and then add "the hatred of HRC is irrational" Armstead Apr 2016 #189
Yes Sparkly Apr 2016 #253
I do Armstead Apr 2016 #361
One of the issues on which I strongly disagree with Hillary is the NSA surveillance. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #214
I'm not sure you understand NSA surveillance Sparkly Apr 2016 #254
Her view that Edward Snowden should face serious penalties for having revealed the program JDPriestly Apr 2016 #372
"I haven't been proven wrong so far." kaleckim Apr 2016 #464
The problem is that Bernie is free to make all sorts of wild ass promises of stuff The_Casual_Observer Apr 2016 #37
"that can never happen..." These people are done with status quo. So is Bernie. snowy owl Apr 2016 #43
Actually I support Bernie, fully aware that he has no chance of ever being able to fulfill any The_Casual_Observer Apr 2016 #50
So they and you are supporting someone who can't get anything done? Are you paid to post? snowy owl Apr 2016 #119
What is this paid to post shit? I've here for 13+ years for better or worse The_Casual_Observer Apr 2016 #135
It makes no sense to keep repeating "he can't do it" and then say you are a supporter. snowy owl Apr 2016 #145
Everything he proposes I'm all for and support. However turning these The_Casual_Observer Apr 2016 #151
I agree. And it will be hard and he knows it and he says it. No pie in the sky. He's been around. snowy owl Apr 2016 #157
Read his book, Outsider in the White House, and you will learn how he will accomplish JDPriestly Apr 2016 #219
I'm just looking at current positions, but Sparkly Apr 2016 #244
You probably are. He works well with other people, and the proof that he has accomplished JDPriestly Apr 2016 #370
Yet only ONE (1) of his Senate colleagues think enough of Bernie to endorse him. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #54
They endorsed early. Just like Obama SD can change. You should know that. Were you here in 2008? snowy owl Apr 2016 #137
Early endorsement meant the choice was obvious and easy. :-D NurseJackie Apr 2016 #149
Your opinion but wrong. Lists of people supporting Bernie... snowy owl Apr 2016 #158
I wouldn't know. You'll have to ask them. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #164
Yes, that's the luxury of being an "Outsider." Sparkly Apr 2016 #78
Why can't Hillary do talk about what she would like to do? JDPriestly Apr 2016 #218
Clinton pushed trade deals are waging a global war on public services Baobab Apr 2016 #286
There are many, but for me, #1 is that.... jack_krass Apr 2016 #39
"This means she has a huge debt" Sparkly Apr 2016 #84
I don't begrudge anybody from making as much money as they can, jack_krass Apr 2016 #191
That is nonsense. She provided a service as a keynote speaker and was paid for it. She also worked Lucinda Apr 2016 #197
This OP isn't listening. Responds with current talking points. Bernie was original. snowy owl Apr 2016 #40
I'm sorry if you don't like what I'm saying. Sparkly Apr 2016 #88
Why not "her IWR vote"? Or, why not her record? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #41
I heard her floor speech. Sparkly Apr 2016 #92
Fracking AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #48
Chamber of Commerce believe Clinton will be "currently" in favor of TPP after elected Arizona Roadrunner Apr 2016 #51
Bingo! Meteor Man Apr 2016 #376
What's Missing Armstead Apr 2016 #55
warmonger Vattel Apr 2016 #62
Supporting war in Libya, Iraq, Syria, and soon to be Iran. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #77
which day? 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #83
Here's a question for you pdsimdars Apr 2016 #96
It's been up here for a day and they have no answers. What else is new? . . . . . . . pdsimdars Apr 2016 #460
I know her stance on issues. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #97
EXCELLENT: WHAT IS SHE CAMPAIGNING ON? Or is it simply Obama's Legacy? snowy owl Apr 2016 #226
Not enough fit-on-a-bumper-sticker slogans for ya? Sparkly Apr 2016 #301
Thanks for the non-answer. Typical. You asked Sanders' supporters and you got long lists. snowy owl Apr 2016 #355
Making Honduras ripe for picking. Octafish Apr 2016 #99
Why Hillary's Not a Real Democrat in the 21st Century: Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #100
the no fly zone in Syria DonCoquixote Apr 2016 #104
Here's a few.... berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #109
It isn't so much what she claims her policies will be but the fact that, based on the bills signed JDPriestly Apr 2016 #111
Why do I feel like this is a marketing focus group? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #114
Yes. That is pretty obvious, and I think the focus group leader has recognized that JDPriestly Apr 2016 #221
Uh, because it's not a "Here's another thing I hate about her" topic? Sparkly Apr 2016 #305
Oh, you are spot on, methinks. djean111 Apr 2016 #426
I give you credit for asking! And you received a lot of good input here. peace13 Apr 2016 #129
The best predictor of future behavior is … past behavior basselope Apr 2016 #141
Only the stuff she started saying since she lost in 2008 and the Draft Warren movement scared her? merrily Apr 2016 #146
She is for TPP onecaliberal Apr 2016 #147
Not true. Sparkly Apr 2016 #265
Keep your head buried. Chamber of Commerce says she will be for it again after election onecaliberal Apr 2016 #344
Okay, I have to leave this here. The "issues" are getting repetitive anyway. Sparkly Apr 2016 #148
Spoken like a true Hillary supporter. peace13 Apr 2016 #152
I'd say the PATRIOT act and issues of freedom of speech like encryption they're polar opposites. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #155
You'll read. Bernie says differences. He's right. You don't want to hear them. snowy owl Apr 2016 #167
"the dems thanks to the DLC are now in a position where Republicans used to be" Sparkly Apr 2016 #241
Abortion. Her dumb ass statement, with video. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #162
That's about EXPANDING what now exists in law. Sparkly Apr 2016 #242
She is talking about a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT about abortion. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #245
Do you have a link or citation or any evidence for this, please? Sparkly Apr 2016 #263
Yes -- post #162 in this thread, in bold, along with the video IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #269
For EXPANDING Roe to go through 9 months Sparkly Apr 2016 #299
Did you read or view what SHE SAID? IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #319
Ida, really? Sparkly Apr 2016 #321
"Are there reasonable restrictions you would support on abortion?" YES. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #389
I think abortion is one of the stupidest issues I've underthematrix Apr 2016 #387
I agree with you. nt IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #388
Don't forget the War on (people who use) Drugs and mass incarceration! nt Romulox Apr 2016 #174
More misinformation. Sparkly Apr 2016 #267
From that steaming pile of shit you linked to: jack_krass Apr 2016 #329
Not that you're predisposed to hold any rigid opinions, but Sparkly Apr 2016 #336
Oh, so now it's just partial legalization,, riiiight jack_krass Apr 2016 #339
And trying to go the whole way will get Sparkly Apr 2016 #343
Well, im a "go the whole way" type of guy jack_krass Apr 2016 #356
She's a War Hawk. senz Apr 2016 #176
Medicare for All...Not a chance her donors would not like it bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #177
Been a very interesting thread... AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #178
The silliest thing about this whole thread...... Sivart Apr 2016 #179
Since she has multiple positions for each policy... dchill Apr 2016 #203
democracy Baobab Apr 2016 #204
There are none. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #206
No fly zone and regime change in Syria. morningfog Apr 2016 #210
These are just a few off the top of my head... liberalnarb Apr 2016 #216
Just thought I'd skip to the bottom... Many addressed above. Sparkly Apr 2016 #240
Why did you bother to ask FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #251
Wrong. Sparkly Apr 2016 #262
Dilusional FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #279
Fracking, Pay to play, Pandering to wealthy donors, Wars. insta8er Apr 2016 #259
Already answered. Sparkly Apr 2016 #264
I haven't seen much of you lately ... Trajan Apr 2016 #268
See ya! Sparkly Apr 2016 #293
When people say they won't vote for Hillary because she voted for the IWR, and then I ask them Squinch Apr 2016 #436
Did you vote for Kerry? Squinch Apr 2016 #340
She is pro-war and pro-Wall Street welfare egalitegirl Apr 2016 #277
And what in her policy platform convinces you of that? Sparkly Apr 2016 #295
I take her record into consideration egalitegirl Apr 2016 #337
Binary thinking. Sparkly Apr 2016 #338
It is not like loyalty to a royal family egalitegirl Apr 2016 #364
hmm... chervilant Apr 2016 #381
Over 300 replies and it's not on the home page? All in it together Apr 2016 #315
One guess. Sparkly Apr 2016 #318
Democratic Primary forum posts don't go to the home page TheDormouse Apr 2016 #442
Remember, you asked TheFarseer Apr 2016 #324
"specific number of a bill" Sparkly Apr 2016 #330
Her stated policies are more or less ok. But who believes what she states? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #327
That's the subjective part I'm separating out. Sparkly Apr 2016 #331
Well, it didn't work out for you. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #360
Actually, that's the problem. Chan790 Apr 2016 #402
Well-stated A Little Weird Apr 2016 #432
People who don't hate her with wingerish vigor? tia uponit7771 Apr 2016 #352
Your framing is wrong, but if we accept your terms, you're referring to a small minority. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #359
Grrrr, She has the audacity! fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #345
Doesn't she realize there's a revolution on? How dare she get all those people to vote for her! Squinch Apr 2016 #354
I know! fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #362
She doesn't have any Tiggeroshii Apr 2016 #358
I'll bite Aerows Apr 2016 #367
Non sequitur, no promises were made. fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #375
No they aren't Aerows Apr 2016 #378
In the age of Al Gore's internets it's easy to vet to one's desire. fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #439
Indeed it is Aerows Apr 2016 #440
Be prepared then. fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #443
I'm prepared for the truth. Aerows Apr 2016 #444
Perhaps this will help... chervilant Apr 2016 #377
Zombie Diary Meteor Man Apr 2016 #379
Oh Sparkly MFM008 Apr 2016 #385
...War she was LIED to by of all people Colin Powell. BERNIE KNEW...he checks, she gives speeches. snowy owl Apr 2016 #473
Move the goalposts! The critics have a point! (Or 30 points, rather) Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #386
So whether she agrees with you or not, it doesn't matter. Nothing she does will be good enough. Squinch Apr 2016 #425
A lot of what she HAS DONE was not good at all. That is my position. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #445
So you are saying that nothing she can do will make you support her, correct? Squinch Apr 2016 #447
True for me. I didn't vote Clinton in 96 and I won't vote HRC 2016. Write in Bernie. snowy owl Apr 2016 #455
So, that means that your opinions are completely irrelevant with respect to the general election. Squinch Apr 2016 #465
There is plenty she can do to win my support. But paying lipservice to something she will abandon at Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #457
So you know that most of these things aren't going to happen. Squinch Apr 2016 #466
That is just arrogance. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #472
Not arrogance, just realism. The primary is over. Your candidate is now out of the race. Squinch Apr 2016 #475
Yes, it is arrogant to declare the race over when neither candidate has as yet secured a majority. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #477
If you are restricting people to the information in her My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #403
Iraq War Vote - TPP - Wall Street Campaign Donations - Clinton Foundation Fraud - Nuff Said cantbeserious Apr 2016 #407
Marijuana legalization! B Calm Apr 2016 #410
Her 4nic8em Apr 2016 #413
You should do your own research A Little Weird Apr 2016 #434
you mean this week? azurnoir Apr 2016 #438
How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World B Calm Apr 2016 #441
Corp influence on Hillary.US companies sell tobacco/fracking abroad. And she cares about children? snowy owl Apr 2016 #456
The fact of the matter is we don't know how Hillary will govern. I suspect we'll find out. YOHABLO Apr 2016 #453
TPP. The Corporate State. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #458
So called Clintoncare or Hillarycare was a diversion from a contemporaneous trade deal negotiation Baobab Apr 2016 #459
This is bogus! Beowulf Apr 2016 #476
WTO-GATS agreement which started a global war on public services like healthcare and higher educatat Baobab May 2016 #480
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