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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What specific POLICY POSITIONS show Sec. Clinton to be "Not Liberal" or "Not a Democrat?" [View all]Sparkly
(24,149 posts)116. She "faced sharp questions" on those issues.
I don't have time to figure out what you're saying about commas, sorry.
I count 13th paragraph.
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What specific POLICY POSITIONS show Sec. Clinton to be "Not Liberal" or "Not a Democrat?" [View all]
Sparkly
Apr 2016
OP
Well then provide the link or name the bill. Because your statement right now is that
Squinch
Apr 2016
#276
So the best you can do to describe this bill that has turned you against Hillary is to say that
Squinch
Apr 2016
#334
Don't you know that we are now a full on Republican spin machine, and must always
Squinch
Apr 2016
#395
Her specific positions today evolved since Bernie's tutuledge. She is hawkish. See SNL...
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#34
No, that's triangulation...a third way given. Along with 'whatever it takes'..
haikugal
Apr 2016
#87
If president, Bernie will work to take marijuana off the list of controlled substances.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#128
If she doesn't think fracking is good, she should have said so from the beginning.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#156
If a candidate doesnt initially support a position and then changes their mind or
puffy socks
Apr 2016
#172
The CFMA was in a budget resolution. It was snuck in by Phil Gramm and one of Hillary's advisors
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#184
Strange you should trust Elizabeth Warren, she both agrees with Hillary's Wall Street plan and was a
puffy socks
Apr 2016
#188
It depends. Rational thought is important, but gut feelings can be very right.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#365
The WTO-GATS trade deal Bill signed in 1995 hijacked the entire worlds public services, health care
Baobab
Apr 2016
#208
Her much vaunted health care plan was a diversion from the truth which was that they were underminin
Baobab
Apr 2016
#207
Changing the scheduling from I to II still leaves both recreational AND medical cannabis illegal at
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2016
#246
Kissinger is a big, big problem for me. I had to read his first book in college and that course
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#153
Made me shudder. The Clintons have pulled the wool over the eyes of too many Democrats.
Zen Democrat
Apr 2016
#290
Shhhhh, don't let them know that people of different political leanings can actually be very fond
all american girl
Apr 2016
#417
Are any of them named George Bush? If not, none of my comment applies to you.
Zen Democrat
Apr 2016
#479
War, fracking, the TPP, student debt, cluster bombs, means-testing Social Security,
djean111
Apr 2016
#3
Fracking is terrible for the environment, sure frackers are supporting it
All in it together
Apr 2016
#44
"... he thinks carefully about what we commit our military men and women to doing."
puffy socks
Apr 2016
#160
Hillary was wrong to trust Bush. She just does not have the good judgment Bernie has.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#171
I agree with Bernie's votes on aid to Israel and Egypt and to go to war in Yugoslavia and Somalia.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#187
Bernie voted for the 98 Iraq bill that called for toppling Hussein's govt.
puffy socks
Apr 2016
#451
Bernie Sanders voted in favor of giving George Bush unilateral war powers following 9/11
Loki
Apr 2016
#185
I agree with the invasion of Afghanistan assuming we were told the truth, and that is where Al Qaeda
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#190
He was voting to fund the troops. He stands by our troops. He is not a pacifist.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#374
It isn't judgement so much as a coherent political philosophy when it comes to international
Ed Suspicious
Apr 2016
#363
And Bernie did not make that mistake because he bothered to read the documents on which
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#366
Hillary gave this vote to GWB and gave him the awesome responsibility, great idea.
All in it together
Apr 2016
#275
And of course, like Obama (and I do like him), Hillary will appoint representatives from the very
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#161
You know, I thought we all didn't like him. I'm not one who wants someone to die,
all american girl
Apr 2016
#419
But if Hillary makes SS into a means tested program which is what she said,
All in it together
Apr 2016
#46
You dont get it- If GATS or the WTO says something is the way it is, THATS THE WAY IT IS
Baobab
Apr 2016
#213
"HRC is a compulsive liar" -- this is rightwing rhetoric. Let's stay on point, please.
Sparkly
Apr 2016
#224
Cite seer is a archive site funded by the NSF, the article is in the International journal of health
Baobab
Apr 2016
#270
So all that boils down to the fact that you can NOT show anywhere where she said that.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#273
Do you mean in 1994, while they were signing away our public services including healthcare forever?
Baobab
Apr 2016
#281
How about Bill Clinton signing a WTO deal that led to the repeal of Glass-Steagall and the subsequ
Baobab
Apr 2016
#287
I didnt say that, but read up on GATS Article I:3 (b) and (c) it will explain a LOT about why I hav
Baobab
Apr 2016
#300
No, dear. It is you who are confused. Which apparently makes you quite pissy and obnoxious.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#317
Oh, for fuck's sake. So raising the lowest threshholds of SS to benefit the poorest elderly is a
Squinch
Apr 2016
#467
It's not me, it's Sparkly doing the heavy work here. But I am beginning to see that there are
Squinch
Apr 2016
#408
Nah. Given your drivel response about means testing, I don't think it's worth my effort.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#468
Yes, we looked at issues, words, and actual deeds, and made up our own minds.
djean111
Apr 2016
#414
Hillary has not "said" half the things you guys think she has said. But clearly you will not be
Squinch
Apr 2016
#401
Well, you are giving us generalities about "why" - we'll go with the original: Bernie.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#36
Her plan on student debt, as now, will require a huge bureaucracy and a lot of financial forms that
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#192
See above means testing a program (SS) becomes let's do welfare reform again.
All in it together
Apr 2016
#57
So basically, you are going to demonize her whether she agrees with you or not.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#412
I was joking. I doubt there's many, if any paid hacks posting in this forum...
jack_krass
Apr 2016
#75
So sorry, I keep seeing about paid posters, but I think you are right about here.
all american girl
Apr 2016
#91
I lived in Europe for years and enjoyed several of their single-payer, universal healthcare
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#196
I've seen people who are against her suggesting that, but I have never seen any credible source
Squinch
Apr 2016
#142
I've never heard this from her. Or anything like this. And I can't imagine PP would be backing her
Squinch
Apr 2016
#159
PP is all that stood between me and disaster many times. And that is true for millions of women.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#416
Of all the things that are thrown around in this election, that is the ONE that makes me feel rage.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#420
Rest assured. I feel great malice toward those who are making it harder for PP to raise the money
Squinch
Apr 2016
#423
Everyone is using lots of angry words, but no one is providing any links that show that Hillary
Squinch
Apr 2016
#278
Oh, just admit that she never moved to restrict abortion rights in any way. She has been completely
Squinch
Apr 2016
#353
Now you are being ridiculous. She is trying to expand abortion rights, and somehow that
Squinch
Apr 2016
#390
I've already shown that what she said in that interview was that she wants to extend abortion rights
Squinch
Apr 2016
#435
I would suggest you look at post #332. Squinch does a very good job.
all american girl
Apr 2016
#424
Hillary's history is one of absolutely consistent and strong support for women's rights, including
Squinch
Apr 2016
#448
and the states that have legalized mj have drops in the opiate deaths
questionseverything
Apr 2016
#60
history tells us the clintons practically invented the for profit prison industry
questionseverything
Apr 2016
#81
Yes, and also a win/win for the pharmaceutical industry that hc gets $ from.
All in it together
Apr 2016
#69
yes the pharms would like nothing better than to take a weed anyone can grow
questionseverything
Apr 2016
#86
I'm not versed in her position on recreational marijuana. I know she is supportive of medical
Squinch
Apr 2016
#150
That's all we do here. How do you miss it? This says a lot about the bubble you're in.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Apr 2016
#21
In her recent past, she was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress
redstateblues
Apr 2016
#322
God forbid we look back at anything not present tense, how about future tense?
All in it together
Apr 2016
#79
I wouldn't vote for GWB because of what happened during his presidency in addition to the
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#202
But the principle that when you hire someone, you ask for a resume and you look to see
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#369
You are saying that the Clintons didn't pull the party to the right?
All in it together
Apr 2016
#306
I see you are ignoring the majority of content of a very substantive post.
Arugula Latte
Apr 2016
#183
It's really hard for a Hillary supporter to have to deal with the fact that we who support
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#211
If the states are to truly legalize marijuana, it needs to be taken off the controlled substance
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#220
Some of the biggest problems with pot legalization are banking and taxation.
Eric J in MN
Apr 2016
#304
Not close at all. Just like plenty of HRC proposals aren't close at all to becoming law.
Eric J in MN
Apr 2016
#309
Bernie wants to take marijuana off the controlled substances list. Is she willing to do that.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#212
But until marijuana is off the list of controlled substances, the federal government can enforce
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#260
Well my state is run by the Republicans, and if you buy MJ in one state you can't take it across
All in it together
Apr 2016
#310
bankruptcy bill, iraq war, minimum wage, kissinger, dlc affiliation, lgbt, crimebill, healthcare...
leeroysphitz
Apr 2016
#33
Hatred. Opposition is now hatred? I mean even STAUNCH opposition shouldn't be labeled
leeroysphitz
Apr 2016
#82
That's politics. People don't just vote on ideas. They also vote for a person.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#217
You say you want reasonable discussion and then add "the hatred of HRC is irrational"
Armstead
Apr 2016
#189
One of the issues on which I strongly disagree with Hillary is the NSA surveillance.
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#214
Her view that Edward Snowden should face serious penalties for having revealed the program
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#372
The problem is that Bernie is free to make all sorts of wild ass promises of stuff
The_Casual_Observer
Apr 2016
#37
"that can never happen..." These people are done with status quo. So is Bernie.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#43
Actually I support Bernie, fully aware that he has no chance of ever being able to fulfill any
The_Casual_Observer
Apr 2016
#50
So they and you are supporting someone who can't get anything done? Are you paid to post?
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#119
What is this paid to post shit? I've here for 13+ years for better or worse
The_Casual_Observer
Apr 2016
#135
It makes no sense to keep repeating "he can't do it" and then say you are a supporter.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#145
Everything he proposes I'm all for and support. However turning these
The_Casual_Observer
Apr 2016
#151
I agree. And it will be hard and he knows it and he says it. No pie in the sky. He's been around.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#157
Read his book, Outsider in the White House, and you will learn how he will accomplish
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#219
You probably are. He works well with other people, and the proof that he has accomplished
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#370
Yet only ONE (1) of his Senate colleagues think enough of Bernie to endorse him.
NurseJackie
Apr 2016
#54
They endorsed early. Just like Obama SD can change. You should know that. Were you here in 2008?
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#137
That is nonsense. She provided a service as a keynote speaker and was paid for it. She also worked
Lucinda
Apr 2016
#197
This OP isn't listening. Responds with current talking points. Bernie was original.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#40
Chamber of Commerce believe Clinton will be "currently" in favor of TPP after elected
Arizona Roadrunner
Apr 2016
#51
It's been up here for a day and they have no answers. What else is new? . . . . . . .
pdsimdars
Apr 2016
#460
Thanks for the non-answer. Typical. You asked Sanders' supporters and you got long lists.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#355
It isn't so much what she claims her policies will be but the fact that, based on the bills signed
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#111
Yes. That is pretty obvious, and I think the focus group leader has recognized that
JDPriestly
Apr 2016
#221
Only the stuff she started saying since she lost in 2008 and the Draft Warren movement scared her?
merrily
Apr 2016
#146
Keep your head buried. Chamber of Commerce says she will be for it again after election
onecaliberal
Apr 2016
#344
I'd say the PATRIOT act and issues of freedom of speech like encryption they're polar opposites.
JonLeibowitz
Apr 2016
#155
You'll read. Bernie says differences. He's right. You don't want to hear them.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#167
"the dems thanks to the DLC are now in a position where Republicans used to be"
Sparkly
Apr 2016
#241
When people say they won't vote for Hillary because she voted for the IWR, and then I ask them
Squinch
Apr 2016
#436
Her stated policies are more or less ok. But who believes what she states?
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2016
#327
Your framing is wrong, but if we accept your terms, you're referring to a small minority.
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2016
#359
Doesn't she realize there's a revolution on? How dare she get all those people to vote for her!
Squinch
Apr 2016
#354
...War she was LIED to by of all people Colin Powell. BERNIE KNEW...he checks, she gives speeches.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#473
So whether she agrees with you or not, it doesn't matter. Nothing she does will be good enough.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#425
True for me. I didn't vote Clinton in 96 and I won't vote HRC 2016. Write in Bernie.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#455
So, that means that your opinions are completely irrelevant with respect to the general election.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#465
There is plenty she can do to win my support. But paying lipservice to something she will abandon at
Betty Karlson
Apr 2016
#457
Not arrogance, just realism. The primary is over. Your candidate is now out of the race.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#475
Yes, it is arrogant to declare the race over when neither candidate has as yet secured a majority.
Betty Karlson
Apr 2016
#477
Iraq War Vote - TPP - Wall Street Campaign Donations - Clinton Foundation Fraud - Nuff Said
cantbeserious
Apr 2016
#407
Corp influence on Hillary.US companies sell tobacco/fracking abroad. And she cares about children?
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#456
The fact of the matter is we don't know how Hillary will govern. I suspect we'll find out.
YOHABLO
Apr 2016
#453