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Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
19. If you support Hillary...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:27 AM
Apr 2016

And her money from Wall Street to attack a liberal, you're not a liberal.
When you support a candidate who eats at the same trough as republicans, then you are not a liberal.

IF you supported Hillary in any way before 2013 when she was against equal rights for LGBTQ people, and support her stance now, that makes you a flip flopper and panderer. Not a liberal.

If you use terms "I'm not a marxist though" as an argument for not voting for Bernie, you are using a RW argument, and not a liberal one.

If you are for perpetual wars, "Patriot" Act, illegel invasions, support for military juntas, then vote Hillary. But it certainly doesn't make you a liberal.

If you support "Super-predator" remarks on inner city kids (as dog-whistle for black kids), you are not on the side with the AA community, but supports oppressive laws to disenfranchise thjat base.

If you support TPP, like Hillary does, then you are not a liberal.

A liberal is more than an empty term you can pin yourself with at convenience when the substance of the policies you supprt re not liberal.

If you support money in politics, like Citizens United (in which Hillary is utilising to the maximum right now to pay internet trolls to spread her misinformation and run campaigns to contradict each other - anti-gun in Connecticut, and pro-gun in Pennsylvania)

When you demonize fellopw democrats as communists, while supporting RW policies in reality, that makes you a DINO and a republican at heart.

"Commie" Bernie went to the strikers. Capitalist Hillary wines and dines with the people who exploits the workers on strike for profit.
The "purity test" lies in the substance of actual policies supported. Not terms that DINOs are watering down to make it fit the capitalist narrative. (who I presume you would think are better citizens than some poor black kid who deals drugs to make a living in an empoverished neighbourhood).

What kills me, is that people who call themselves Capitalist, are not a part of the capitalist class. They are suckeredn in to vcoting against their own interests in a hope they will be a part of that class. Being a capitalist, means you have extra funds to gamle with on the market, or live off other people's work as a CEO, owner or stock holder.
If you are a wage slave, you are not a Capitalist, but just a small insignifant part that holds the system up, and yourself down. You're nothing but a brick in the wall to keep the fatcats on top happy and content with the tax cuts, their subsidies, their war profiteering and their bailouts that you pay for with your tax dollars. Anyone who works in this system is nothing but a brick in the wall. Bernie seeks to break that wall.

It's a poor revolutionary kennetha Apr 2016 #1
That's a shallow and wrongheaded answer Armstead Apr 2016 #25
Because of inquities in our system, minorties make up a big percentage of the poor . . . brush Apr 2016 #35
You are correct in terms of present familiarity with candidates Armstead Apr 2016 #36
Maybe, but still, if the poor, a good many of whom are minorities, did vote, they've vote like . . brush Apr 2016 #39
I am talking about larger than just electoral strategy Armstead Apr 2016 #41
Didn't he suggest that that was one of the reasons he was losing? brush Apr 2016 #44
Analyze this: young adults are also known for not voting, yet that is who Sanders went after... KittyWampus Apr 2016 #43
i will not try to convince you of anything, not analyze anything Armstead Apr 2016 #45
Has he had a voter registration effort going? brush Apr 2016 #60
I can't speak for that...I'm not on his campaign staff Armstead Apr 2016 #61
But Amstead, Bernie's answer is telling. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #46
From about 3 precent in the polls to about 40 percent is pretty damn good Armstead Apr 2016 #50
From 3% to 40% is huge. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #52
No prob about the name...It's my middle name and I had a hard time spelling it when young Armstead Apr 2016 #54
AMEN uponit7771 Apr 2016 #56
Currently he is 44% of voters below $50,000, still losing in that category also. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #2
Let's all pile on the Only liberal candidate up for the presidential election fasttense Apr 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #5
Obviously you don't want liberals in the Democratic party. fasttense Apr 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #7
If you support Hillary... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #19
Careful, with all those purity tests, the "revolution" becomes exclusive... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #27
so who do you want to include here? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #28
So what's your stance on these issues? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #57
You've just diagnosed a considerable portion of the Democratic Party membership. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #47
What are your stance on these issue? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #58
No, I think you are a moderate conservative capatalist fasttense Apr 2016 #23
" Hillary is more RepubliCON like than Trump." How exactly? n/t pampango Apr 2016 #8
To name a few Gwhittey Apr 2016 #12
Since Trump "lies" and "flips his views" repeating his talking points does not prove anything. pampango Apr 2016 #16
I was only replying from stand point that many voters will take in GE Gwhittey Apr 2016 #17
Same goes for Hillary TrueDemVA Apr 2016 #18
I can see this wishy washiness from HRC & Trump astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #34
7-0 leave Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #30
That's the point...This is not only about Sanders. It's a campaign against all reform Armstead Apr 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #4
you put a smile on my face...like if wasn;t for the fact beachbum bob Apr 2016 #9
Do have link to that post Gwhittey Apr 2016 #13
Sanders' analysis about the poor, and those supporters of his who agree are nuts. brush Apr 2016 #38
Some factual data... Sancho Apr 2016 #10
This exactly. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #15
More like voter suppression... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #20
Well said, thanks! nt haikugal Apr 2016 #37
The poor turn out to vote for Clinton, not Sanders Tarc Apr 2016 #11
My problem with that is this; He won Washington State in a landslide ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #14
She won NY, where turnout was 29%, in NYC just 12% of eligible Democrats voted at all. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #21
But Sanders is the champion of the poor AND he's drawing people into the political process. George II Apr 2016 #22
He's behind because capitalist don't want a Socialist President. fasttense Apr 2016 #24
Capitalism will always exist. Always. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #29
Money is NOT capitalism. Capitalism will evolve away like feudalism. fasttense Apr 2016 #31
I dont want to read Marx, I like capitalism. And... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #32
Polls in NY were held when poor were at work and not when Stock Markets opened egalitegirl Apr 2016 #33
So, what does that say about caucuses which are more time restrictive? Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #42
Nice comeback, Chicago. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #48
What does that say? Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #40
I think Bernie made a broad brush with his comment. Of course many in riversedge Apr 2016 #49
Political Correctness is a Self-Inflicted Restriction on Free Speech PCPrincess Apr 2016 #51
Thank you for speaking so eloquently for the poor. beedle Apr 2016 #59
The poor don't vote because they have been disproportionately disenfranchised. -none Apr 2016 #53
Well he and his supporters have slammed every other good Democrat, now let's slam the poor. Hoyt Apr 2016 #55
It's true. Poor people don't vote... ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #62
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