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LuvLoogie

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6. In a representative democracy, one needs numbers to pass legislation.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

The relative liberal or conservative character of those laws is directly related to numbers/votes. Money is used to reach voters that will elect their representatives. There is a lot of math involved.

Campaigns need to deal with the math, while their candidates deal with the message. National politics requires a lot of networking and actual logistics, physical presence, i.e. the face to face, looking you in the eye forming of alliances. Phoning it in to the choir on a one hour per week radio show is not enough.

That is why Bernie can't get over the top. In thirty years he never left Vermont.

State parties determine the rules for their primaries Trenzalore Apr 2016 #1
Thank you for the pedantry. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #2
If you want to change the rules of your state's primary Trenzalore Apr 2016 #3
Actually some of us are advocating now that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #18
That's more like it. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #24
Well they are proviing they do not want democratic elections nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #25
So your strategy is to lobby elected officials who were put in place by the system Trenzalore Apr 2016 #37
Some of my state officials do see beyond your short views nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #45
Good for them Trenzalore Apr 2016 #49
So an independent private organization has a say on how state taxes are used? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #58
I want to keep my closed primaries in PA Trenzalore Apr 2016 #61
Do so, but your state party nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #62
If all parties are treated equally, and all primaries paid for, it is not discriminatory. randome Apr 2016 #77
Why not just join a party, or form one that reflects your politics. brush Apr 2016 #44
Independents are now the majority nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #47
All the more reason to start your own party if Independents are the majority. Seems a no-brainer. brush Apr 2016 #53
NO it is a no brainer, it shows your lack of understanding of what is happening. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #56
Why would I not understand? The situation is what it is. You either keep complaining or do . . . brush Apr 2016 #59
I am doing something about it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #60
This re-alignment you speak of, that's funny. brush Apr 2016 #63
Political realignment nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #65
Funny how the parties survive though. brush Apr 2016 #66
That is precisely a party realignment nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #67
You realize that, without Superdelegates, Clinton would still be ahead? brooklynite Apr 2016 #27
Presumably you do not realize that this in no way addresses what I wrote. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #41
Tad Devine helped create the superdelegate system. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #39
So, am I Tad Devine? JackRiddler Apr 2016 #42
Perhaps because math is factual, and not subject to emotion-driven rhetoric Tarc Apr 2016 #4
Your claim is in no way relevant here. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #9
As Herm Edwards said, "you play to win the game" Tarc Apr 2016 #32
Life guidance: platitudes from former NFL coaches! JackRiddler Apr 2016 #34
^^^This^^^ whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #51
Whoever the winner is, they will need math to get their agenda enacted TheDormouse Apr 2016 #5
As Clinton has no fixed agenda whatsoever, it will be easy for her! JackRiddler Apr 2016 #22
Yes, she does artislife Apr 2016 #30
In a representative democracy, one needs numbers to pass legislation. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #6
No. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #13
Not asking you to surrender. But you're swinging for the fences LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #46
Fair enough... nt sentenza607 Apr 2016 #7
Denial of math is denial of reality n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #8
This platitude does not address the subject. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #10
The OP (subject) states ... How about I don't care about "math." ... sounds like denial to me. n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #11
Only if you lack reading comprehension JackRiddler Apr 2016 #15
You people sure are suffering from a lot of sour grapes ... Tuesday is going to be hard for you n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #17
"You people"? I speak for myself. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #19
You sound just like another cog of the BS cheerleader squad n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #20
Thank you for keeping the "Democracy" in the Democratic Party! Octafish Apr 2016 #12
Sometimes getting out-voted feels like getting steamrolled. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #48
Not one primary has been canceled KingFlorez Apr 2016 #14
You are not addressing the OP. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #16
You probably need to start a party with your political convictions then because the Dem . . . brush Apr 2016 #52
The realighmnet is almost complete nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #21
Change the undemocratic rules of the primary? oberliner Apr 2016 #23
As if you mean that question honestly. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #26
What about caucuses? oberliner Apr 2016 #28
Probably. A very big discussion has to be opened up on all of it. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #31
Agreed oberliner Apr 2016 #36
Super delegates aren't going to impact the race mythology Apr 2016 #33
Superdelegates already impacted the race. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #35
Fully agree. Well-expressed. All the nit-pickers who mostly care only about "winning" are highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #29
Over ten million Americans have voted for Clinton HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #40
If all you want is your selves, then enjoy your party. You may or may not win in November. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #43
Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2016 #38
That was one amazing piece of straight-talking! Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #50
Thank you. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #72
K&R jwirr Apr 2016 #54
Sanders is a good candidate Dem2 Apr 2016 #55
Math: Your "choice" - 2 tbsps arsenic is "not as bad" as 1 tbsp of arsenic = dead. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #57
It will be interesting to see how many "revolutionaries" redstateblues Apr 2016 #64
That's two years away. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #68
It's called an election, not a coronation. Beacool Apr 2016 #69
It's called a convention and it does not only elect candidates. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #75
Math is a progressives friend uponit7771 Apr 2016 #70
Math may be but "math" is not. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #71
syntax, facts matter not the Benghazi mindset of making shit up. Sanders camp doesn't get to uponit7771 Apr 2016 #73
Your post: Generic nonsense unrelated to anything in this thread. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #74
related to your post though, Sanders is not a progressive standard bearer relative to the facts uponit7771 Apr 2016 #76
Thank you for kicking this important thread. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #78
Still my view & timely. JackRiddler May 2016 #79
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