2016 Postmortem

beedle

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40. Once again you are being a Hillary supporter

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:23 PM

Apr 2016

ie. being purposely stupid.

when comparing where Hillary was in 2008 and Bernie is in 2016 in terms of percentage of remaining delegates needed to win.

Hillary, with 509 remaming delegates and behind 129 delegates needed to win (509/2)+129+ 1 delegates or 384.5 delegates.

Bernie with 1400 remaining delegates and behind 235 delegates needs to win (1400/2)+235+1 delegates or 936 delegates.

so in terms of percent needed to win, Hillary needed on April 24, 2008, 384.5/509 or ~75% of her remaining delegates.
Bernie needs on April 24, 2016 936/1400 or 67% of the remaining delegates.

Either way, using her ratio of needed votes as compared to remaining votes (Bernie for example had a ratio of 17 to 100 or 5.9 times more votes available than the number of votes he is behind ... NOT the same thing as the percentage of votes needed as compared to the votes remaining) or the percentage of votes needed as compared to remaining votes, Bernie is in a better position.

The numbers are here,

Bernie 1400 delegates remaining and is behind by 235 vs
Hilary 505 delegates remaining and was behind by 129

show me your math that shows Hillary was better off than Bernie is now.

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Hillary leads Bernie by only 235 - There are 1,400 still up for grabs [View all] TheDormouse Apr 2016 OP

LOL! nt onehandle Apr 2016 #1

You are making the same argument that Hillary supporters made at this point in 2008 stevenleser Apr 2016 #2

No, that is wrong beedle Apr 2016 #12

As I noted elsewhere here, there were 500 less delegates in 2008 than this year. Comparing... George II Apr 2016 #17

You don't need to 'normalize' the number left vs the number needed to tie. beedle Apr 2016 #18

I do understand real math, not "Devine/Weaver" math. George II Apr 2016 #21

Obviosuly you failed math beedle Apr 2016 #22

"Obviosuly"? George II Apr 2016 #23

That other subject you seem unfamilar with is called History. beedle Apr 2016 #35

This is beginning to sound like the Abbott and Costello baseball bit... George II Apr 2016 #39

I see now. You are lousy in Math, History AND reading comprehension. beedle Apr 2016 #42

Sleep tight, we'll revisit this about 10 PM or so on Tuesday night, when it's even FURTHER.... George II Apr 2016 #43

I accept your apology. beedle Apr 2016 #45

Not an apology. What gave you that idea? George II Apr 2016 #46

one apology is enough. beedle Apr 2016 #47

Ouch! TheDormouse Apr 2016 #26

Instead of laughing, why don't you get together with your buddy beedle and figure out.... George II Apr 2016 #34

Once again you are being a Hillary supporter beedle Apr 2016 #40

Because the POOL OF DELEGATES remaining is BIGGER JimDandy Apr 2016 #41

Never give up Ino Apr 2016 #3

#berniemath Tarc Apr 2016 #4

Your math is off Gwhittey Apr 2016 #5

lol TheDormouse Apr 2016 #9

Check in again on Wednesday. MineralMan Apr 2016 #6

Exactly. It will be a bigger lead and less to go. YouDig Apr 2016 #29

which means Bernie has to win 58% of the remaining delegates to tie her. kennetha Apr 2016 #7

What about the following... Corporate666 Apr 2016 #8

Why do you bother posting this info if you're so convinced of it? TheDormouse Apr 2016 #10

Perhaps for the same reason you posted the OP? George II Apr 2016 #16

the difference is that the info in the OP is being buried by the media TheDormouse Apr 2016 #19

Actually the info in the OP is incorrect, but we see similar (correct) info in the media every day. George II Apr 2016 #20

What specifically is incorrect? TheDormouse Apr 2016 #24

Clinton is currently ahead by 241 delegates, not 235. I gave you the link to the accurate count. George II Apr 2016 #25

because those 6 delegates make all the difference TheDormouse Apr 2016 #28

You are a corporate devil, now aren't you? Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #27

He need to keep Hillary left, if that is even possible! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #44

Bernie is ahead of where Obama was this time in 2008: amborin Apr 2016 #11

Sorry, there were 500 less delegates in 2008 than this year. That would give Obama the equivalent.. George II Apr 2016 #15

The lead is 241. It will be up to about 275 by midnight Tuesday, with slightly over 1,000 to go. George II Apr 2016 #13

"Only" isn't a word that should be used KingFlorez Apr 2016 #14

In 2008, Obama never led by more than about 90 or so delegates. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #30

... UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #31

You do understand that delegates are awarded proportionally? That is why it is even more still_one Apr 2016 #32

Lets forget about it guys, the $hill $upporters are saying that it is over. (sarcasm) insta8er Apr 2016 #33

Still pushing this meme? Beacool Apr 2016 #36

A third of those are up Tuesday. Zynx Apr 2016 #37

This primary is rigged... Who KNOWS how many delegates Bernie should have? AzDar Apr 2016 #38

That's why turnout is so important. It's harder to hide votes when the numbers are massive. TheDormouse Apr 2016 #49

Well, the pledged delegates are given proportionally to candidates votes utopia_basin Apr 2016 #48