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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: WHO Is To Blame? [View all]pat_k
(11,393 posts)40. Wrong Question. He Didn't Lose.
Whose responsible for the stealing the election? In this order:
1. Florida for appointing electors pursuant to an unlawful election.
2. SCOTUS for ensuring the electors were unlawful by stopping the recount.
3. Gore for conceding to an unlawful result.
4. Congress for failing to fulfill their duty to judge the legality of the electors, and throw out the unlawfully appointed Florida electors.
Ultimately, it was Congress the put the nail in the coffin. In Bush v. Gore, Justice Breyer told the nation -- and Gore -- exactly what needed to happen. As he noted in his dissent, the Electoral Count Act makes it the duty of Congress to ultimately resolve such a situation. In quoting the legislative history, he cites that:
They can only count legal votes, and in doing so must determine, from the best evidence to be had, what are legal votes
And further that:
The power to judge of the legality of the votes is a necessary consequent of the power to count. The existence of this power is of absolute necessity to the preservation of the Government."
Bush v. Gore, J.Breyer dissent (11) December 12, 2000
Justice Breyer was explicitly instructing Congress as to what their duty was -- to object to, and reject, the unlawfully appointed Florida electors on January 6th, 2001.
If he respected the rule of law, Gore would have called on Congress to do it's duty.
You expect crooks to be crooks: Kathryn Harris, SCOTUS majority. But when the "good guys" betray the us by turning a blind eye theft, we are in deep shit. And 2004 marked a turning point for this nation when we allowed an election to be stolen in plain sight.
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I really do put a lot of blame on those who couldn't see a difference between Bush and Gore.
Zynx
Apr 2016
#4
There is more than one culprit - Bush, SCOTUS, Nader, Katherine Harris, Brooks Brothers riot by
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2016
#8
Al Gore won the popular vote so, the voters clearly did not want a republican president. nt
Henhouse
Apr 2016
#21
The Constitution delegates the right to run Presidential elections to the states
Samantha
Apr 2016
#22
SCOTUS behaved abominably but Gore would still have lost if the recount he wanted had been allowed
Nye Bevan
Apr 2016
#25
Anyone who blames Nader for Gore's loss is hopelessly ignorant of politics.[n/t]
Maedhros
Apr 2016
#36