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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: 538: Hillary Clinton was liberal. Hillary Clinton is liberal. [View all]pnwmom
(108,976 posts)67. Even on foreign policy.
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/27/11504272/hillary-clinton-hawk
It was a simple scorecard, assembled by a non-partisan nuclear nonproliferation group called Global Zero, comparing the five remaining candidates on a battery of eight foreign policy issues.
On every issue that Global Zero measured, Clinton is indicated as far less hawkish than all three of the Republican candidates, and as basically tied with Bernie Sanders. She supports the Iran nuclear deal; the Republicans all oppose it. She supports using diplomacy to solve the North Korean nuclear crisis; John Kasich is the only Republican to do so. She supports negotiating with Russia to reduce nuclear weapons; no Republican candidate does.
This measured only policies related to nuclear weapons, and so is far from comprehensive. But on these major geopolitical challenges including the Iranian and North Korean nuclear programs, which seem among the few crises that could plausibly draw the US into war Clinton is significantly more dovish than all three Republican candidates.
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It was a simple scorecard, assembled by a non-partisan nuclear nonproliferation group called Global Zero, comparing the five remaining candidates on a battery of eight foreign policy issues.
On every issue that Global Zero measured, Clinton is indicated as far less hawkish than all three of the Republican candidates, and as basically tied with Bernie Sanders. She supports the Iran nuclear deal; the Republicans all oppose it. She supports using diplomacy to solve the North Korean nuclear crisis; John Kasich is the only Republican to do so. She supports negotiating with Russia to reduce nuclear weapons; no Republican candidate does.
This measured only policies related to nuclear weapons, and so is far from comprehensive. But on these major geopolitical challenges including the Iranian and North Korean nuclear programs, which seem among the few crises that could plausibly draw the US into war Clinton is significantly more dovish than all three Republican candidates.
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Clinton was out in front of health care long before Sanders or most all of his supporters.
seabeyond
Apr 2016
#4
Are you really comparing Clinton's work put into that to Sanders standing behind in support? Lol.
seabeyond
Apr 2016
#34
Ummm, you read the part in HRC's handwriting where she thanks Sanders for his
Kelvin Mace
Apr 2016
#47
Yes. Clinton is generous and gracious. Clinton did months of work. Sanders stood behind her and
seabeyond
Apr 2016
#54
Realty, Clinton worked months upon months on the bill. Sanders stood behind her and supported the
seabeyond
Apr 2016
#61
They equate standing behind Clinton while she did all the work, as Sanders work.
seabeyond
Apr 2016
#37
Hillary IS A CARD CARRYING CORPORATIST! Look Up The Definition... Same As Mussolini!
CorporatistNation
Apr 2016
#40
And it is stupid statements like this that have people like me, merely retort with... Clinton kicked
seabeyond
Apr 2016
#42
Of course she is. Facts bare it out. Fact, at our hand. That is the out of control, over the top
seabeyond
Apr 2016
#3
From the perspective of the most 1% of lefties, she doesn't look liberal. From the center,
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#24
538 uses data to support its claims. That unsourced chart is just a pretty picture. n/t
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#27
You're really going to "facts" the greatest statistician team of all time with...
TekGryphon
Apr 2016
#52
This is how you make sense of it: she's human. That means she evolves and changes her mind
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#60
I'm sorry but where is the leadership? Bernie Sanders may have said that, I'll check up on that. But
JumpinJehosaphat
Apr 2016
#69