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pdsimdars

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86. Speaking of looking at the big picture . . . how is it that you are not aware that this is not
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

the GE?

What we are currently going through is called a "primary election". That is where people are deciding on the best candidate to run in that GE.

That is why the Bernie people keep wanting to discuss ISSUES and not this crap. If you refuse to FOCUS on the task at hand, you will always mess things up down the line. So, is it possible to step away from the talking memes and get on to ISSUES?

Here is a good ISSUE question that I have never heard an answer for.





Let's hear it. What are the issues Hillary stands for that you are so committed to?

I will not vote for a Republican. bkkyosemite May 2016 #1
How about staying home? Would you do that? Not voting also means one Democratic vote fewer. Cal33 May 2016 #2
I hear very few will stay home. artislife May 2016 #21
As long as they are helping the Republicans to lose. The most important point is what will Cal33 May 2016 #25
Whatever. artislife May 2016 #27
agree Ferd Berfel May 2016 #15
Great for you guys. I hope other states will also get more Progressives into Congress. Cal33 May 2016 #28
I cannot stand with people who behave as she and many of her followers do Android3.14 May 2016 #3
I think the really big question is "What could happen to our entire nation if I did this or Cal33 May 2016 #12
Not after this primary Android3.14 May 2016 #30
How about thinking in terms of which is the greater of two evils for our entire nation? I Cal33 May 2016 #41
I think moral intelligent people withhold support for corporatism Android3.14 May 2016 #42
When there are two evils, I think I will always try to fight to prevent the greater Cal33 May 2016 #59
No,voting for Trump is helping Trump... Yurovsky May 2016 #122
Yes, there are several names - Goldman Sachs, WalMart, Citigroup, Pharmaceutical Cos., Insurance Cal33 May 2016 #129
Agree 100% with the last line... Yurovsky May 2016 #141
The oligarchs are already firmly in control. stillwaiting May 2016 #4
Yes, they are firmly in control, but not completely. If we help a Republican president to win this Cal33 May 2016 #17
The gravest threat is climate destabilization. I will NEVER vote for someone who doesn't address it onecaliberal May 2016 #5
The Republicans will more certainly NOT address climate destabilization than Hillary. As Cal33 May 2016 #22
They are owned BY THE SAME PEOPLE. What is so hard to understand onecaliberal May 2016 #57
They are not exactly the same people. With a Republican as president, our nation Cal33 May 2016 #60
Your vote is your decision and your business, my vote is my decision. onecaliberal May 2016 #63
The status quo destroys our environment the same as climate change deniers. riderinthestorm May 2016 #95
Hillary addressed climate destabilization creeksneakers2 May 2016 #49
As she likes and supports fracking Duckhunter935 May 2016 #54
By supporting fracking and taking donations from big oil. onecaliberal May 2016 #58
Glad to know that she said what she did. I hope she will live up to her words, should Cal33 May 2016 #64
And James Hansen said it is far from enough nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #109
James Hansen is great creeksneakers2 May 2016 #111
And why we will go extinct nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #112
You need to say what group she was speaking to when she put out that particular position right pdsimdars May 2016 #142
but Hillary IS a corporatist! She bragged to me how she was an original thinker and early Kip Humphrey May 2016 #6
Don't put too much emphasis on names and labels. There are corporatists and corporatists. Some Cal33 May 2016 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog May 2016 #7
If you live in a swing state, pull the straight party lever! If you live in the 45 other states, Vote2016 May 2016 #8
Those of us in Colorado think Clinton wasn't worth it then byyiminy May 2016 #29
Sure, do your best for Bernie. I'm doing that, too. But if Hillaary should win, I'd Cal33 May 2016 #38
If you're from California, our nominee will carry your state regardless of your vote at the top of Vote2016 May 2016 #40
I think WA state is right there with you. nt artislife May 2016 #52
The big picture, Sander does not have a chance of acquiring 983 delegates by the end of the Thinkingabout May 2016 #9
Do you think Hillary Duckhunter935 May 2016 #33
We'll have to elect more Progressives into Congress. The Dems. probably will win the Senate this Cal33 May 2016 #39
Funny, that is Bernies position Duckhunter935 May 2016 #53
Vote your conscious kcjohn1 May 2016 #10
But there are some negatives Clinton will not add to, which a Republican president most definitely Cal33 May 2016 #43
A Clinton Admin will likely operate more or less the same as the Obama Admin has. Garrett78 May 2016 #11
Yes, I agree. Cal33 May 2016 #66
As of this moment, and from now on, the leader of the "Not Hillary" Party is Donald Trump. baldguy May 2016 #13
As Clinton is the minion of the 1% Katashi_itto May 2016 #23
There are minions and minions. Some are worse than others. Understanding Cal33 May 2016 #68
That is such a load of crap artislife May 2016 #24
Really? apcalc May 2016 #35
It is amazing, and yet, still true. artislife May 2016 #48
Oh really? byyiminy May 2016 #32
That pic was taken - what? 11 yrs ago? baldguy May 2016 #44
If you think in terms of the big-picture, who will do our nation more harm - Hillary or the Cal33 May 2016 #46
Your big picture only goes so far artislife May 2016 #50
Narcissistic madman or sociopathic corporate socialist. Hobson's choice. Katashi_itto May 2016 #78
That's baloney. I admit that Sanders' chances are slight, but they are still Cal33 May 2016 #67
That is some seriously twisted logic TM99 May 2016 #88
The addition of 3 Scalia types to the Supreme Court by Trump oasis May 2016 #14
I don't think Trump can win. He is simply too much for most people. Cal33 May 2016 #71
I don't vote conservative. pinebox May 2016 #16
Thinking in terms of names and labels only limits a person. Sometimes one has to think Cal33 May 2016 #72
Sorry but I don't do lesser of 2 evils anymore pinebox May 2016 #81
I tend to agree . . . they have kept us on this "lesser of 2 evils" for 30+ years now pdsimdars May 2016 #143
I'm not there yet on who I will support IF Bernie loses. As long as Bernie is still in the race, I B Calm May 2016 #18
I'm frightened about the future (I'm not one of those declaring I won't vote for her). mmonk May 2016 #19
If Trump wins it would be disastrous. Cruz might be worse. I don't think either of them can win. Cal33 May 2016 #73
I hope not but the mere fact you have people this far mmonk May 2016 #85
I don't vote Republican. Katashi_itto May 2016 #20
Geat! I don't either. Cal33 May 2016 #74
You support Hillary. Katashi_itto May 2016 #77
I have. byyiminy May 2016 #26
I agree with you in general. I'm voting against the fron-runner who, I think, will do Cal33 May 2016 #75
of course, that is why I will vote down ticket races. Duckhunter935 May 2016 #31
a Republican win would be disastrous apcalc May 2016 #34
Yes, definitely. Cal33 May 2016 #79
I will be voting for the Dem candidate. padfun May 2016 #36
Yes, I too sometimes worry for the younger people, and hope that this mess we are in will Cal33 May 2016 #82
Bernie supporters will follow their consciences when making voting decisions. aikoaiko May 2016 #45
So true Duckhunter935 May 2016 #55
If HRC wins the nomination, pray she faces Trump mikehiggins May 2016 #47
I have looked at the big picture AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #51
I think that, tainted as she is, there are individuals who are much worse than Cal33 May 2016 #84
What makes you think our reason for not supporting Clinton... 99Forever May 2016 #56
Yes, I have, for over 30 yrs. Tired of holding nose being miserable, I'll voter for whomever makes ViseGrip May 2016 #61
Has it occurred to you that if any Republican wins, the possibility exists that Cal33 May 2016 #87
Yes, looking at the big picture is the reason they say they won't northernsouthern May 2016 #62
Viva la revolucion! PowerToThePeople May 2016 #65
I'm sensing a theme. frylock May 2016 #69
You ask if we have looked at the big picture. I ask if you have? jwirr May 2016 #70
What you say is true. How great it would be if Bernie wins! He would be the Cal33 May 2016 #89
You are correct that we may be asked to make the hard jwirr May 2016 #106
I think Hillary would help the Corporatists in many ways, but she would not help them at Cal33 May 2016 #107
In that I agree. jwirr May 2016 #110
Yes I have. Hillary - needless war. Trump - gawd only knows. Either one and the climate loses. Live and Learn May 2016 #76
Not voting means one less vote for the Democrats. It's helping the Republicans to win. And Cal33 May 2016 #91
The climate won't wait. Hillary will continue the march towards oligarchy and economic injustice. Live and Learn May 2016 #96
If you'd vote for Clinton at all.... seekthetruth May 2016 #80
Here you and I differ. I don't think Hillary is as bad as Trump or any other Republican. Hence, Cal33 May 2016 #93
Looking at the long run...... seekthetruth May 2016 #113
What makes you think the 5th Democratically appointed SupremeCourt Justice would not be Cal33 May 2016 #114
Who cares? seekthetruth May 2016 #115
I do care about both -- as do millions of Sanders supporters. You were the one who brought up Cal33 May 2016 #116
Dear God.... seekthetruth May 2016 #118
I agree that we should have and could have switched over to solar, wind and tide power some Cal33 May 2016 #136
Most Sander supporters won't vote in the general election anyway tonyt53 May 2016 #83
I've read somewhere that 33% of voting Sanders supporters would not vote for Hillary. Others Cal33 May 2016 #94
I'll vote. seekthetruth May 2016 #119
Speaking of looking at the big picture . . . how is it that you are not aware that this is not pdsimdars May 2016 #86
I am very well aware that this is not the GE. I am also aware that Sanders chances of Cal33 May 2016 #97
You don't appear to be aware this is not the GE because your attention is not here. pdsimdars May 2016 #99
Could you guys make up your minds already? One OP tells us that Clinton Betty Karlson May 2016 #90
I am not blackmailing anybody - emotionally or otherwise. As long as Bernie is running, I Cal33 May 2016 #98
The Democratic status quo has been in place for decades. seekthetruth May 2016 #121
People who currently support Sanders and won't support Hillary in November are shortsighted fools. Beacool May 2016 #92
Maybe we wouldn't even have the right to vote by now. Who knows? My priority now is to Cal33 May 2016 #100
Cal33 MFM008 May 2016 #101
When she loses, maybe the DNC will think twice before trying another corporatist. Jester Messiah May 2016 #102
If she loses, within a few years there might be only 1 political Party left, whatever Cal33 May 2016 #103
We are already a one party country. the money party though it has two right wings TheKentuckian May 2016 #117
Yes. We do have the Corporate Power people with 2 right wings, the 2nd wing being a part Cal33 May 2016 #124
I'm a Union Labor guy. I've been looking at the big picture since Reagan and Bill. nt silvershadow May 2016 #104
Yes I have. Myrina May 2016 #105
Every election it's the same old shit Andy823 May 2016 #108
Those who insist on her being the nominee: have you taken a good look at the Big-Picture? AgingAmerican May 2016 #120
Apparently they see a Party that is working for the benefit of ALL the American people as Cal33 May 2016 #125
I think most will come around. nolawarlock May 2016 #123
"We" will not elect a Republican Kelvin Mace May 2016 #126
I agree that some of the Hillary supporters are making things worse for Hillary. Instead of Cal33 May 2016 #130
Absolutely, Kelvin Mace May 2016 #134
I will vote for whomever the democratic nominee is with no problem. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #127
"Republican Heavy" vs "Republican Lite" KansDem May 2016 #128
An attempt to describe your point in one sentence: Republican Lites are the ones who Cal33 May 2016 #131
Who will start the least wars? CanadaexPat May 2016 #132
There's no doubt that Bernie will start the least wars. Cal33 May 2016 #135
I see a Trump win causing a HUGE win for house and senate in two years ViseGrip May 2016 #133
You'd be right, if things continue on the way they are. I sure hope there will still be genuine Cal33 May 2016 #139
enough with the lectures dana_b May 2016 #137
Yes, I've looked at the big picture. This is precisely why I am not voting for HRC. EndElectoral May 2016 #138
Yes. The "big picture" is corporate money destroying democracy. raouldukelives May 2016 #140
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