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snot

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24. Fwiw, I do think election fraud has been happening in many elections, possibly including this one,
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016

since electronic voting machines were introduced.

After the fiasco in FL in 2000, the major networks did a major overhaul to try to "fix" their exit polling, which had never been so far off before.

Nonetheless, in 2004, in the middle of the night, results went from Kerry's being ahead by 3 points to Bush being ahead by 3 – a 6-point swing.

Exit polls have been "unreliable" ever since.

Even when the candidate favored by the 1% doesn't actually win, shifting the results in that direction helps make the rightward shift of elections in general more plausible.

There is LOTS of evidence that electronic voting and tabulations have been tampered with and a LARGE preponderance of opinion among computer experts that electronic voting and tabulation cannot be made secure.

The apparent refusal of establishment Dems to take election integrity, media control, and some other issues seriously is part of what contributes to my disenchantment with the current state of much of the party. Regardless of what they may say during their campaigns, their priorities in action show that they identify more with the 1% than with the rest of us and that they see us as a mass to be controlled rather than served.

Twice I saw the numbers change on the New York Times feed Dem2 May 2016 #1
Hillary arranged all this voter fraud and suppression to ensure a Sanders victory. Buzz Clik May 2016 #2
You're right. Bernie won. That is an irregularity! CrowCityDem May 2016 #3
I don't think you know what irregularity means. Dawgs May 2016 #5
As a person who supports election integrity issues, I am kicking and IdaBriggs May 2016 #4
I second that kick and motion. eom Betty Karlson May 2016 #16
This is why I tell people that voting fraud doesn't have to come from the Clinton side. intheflow May 2016 #6
Just getting ready to post this. Doremus May 2016 #22
There were a few such threads last evening mcar May 2016 #7
Thank you for posting this NV Whino May 2016 #8
I was away from all media last night. OilemFirchen May 2016 #9
Welcome to the party. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #10
It's hard to manipulate numbers in not only open primaries, but open to republicans too. ViseGrip May 2016 #11
Yep bkkyosemite May 2016 #14
Every time we brought it up you shot it down so we figured whats the point? SwampG8r May 2016 #12
PS. We did complain one county had reduced polling places from 15 to 5. ViseGrip May 2016 #13
Yep bkkyosemite May 2016 #15
lol uponit7771 May 2016 #20
Ha you think they are going to do that for Trump? TimPlo May 2016 #21
Yep yep yep. Started on the voter suppression earlier, you know... college kids had exams. Lol. seabeyond May 2016 #17
Next thing you'll tell us is that this happens EVERY election! randome May 2016 #18
+1, they can't stand they are losing influence so they just make stuff up when they lose uponit7771 May 2016 #19
Now I understand why Bernie barely won. This should WhiteTara May 2016 #23
Fwiw, I do think election fraud has been happening in many elections, possibly including this one, snot May 2016 #24
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