2016 Postmortem

cheapdate

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32. Holy crap!

Sun May 8, 2016, 01:44 AM

May 2016

Did you see what Trump said? If "someone" from ISIS "hits us" "wouldn't you fight back with a nuke?"

So if "someone" associated with ISIS "hits us" Trump suggests he would respond by exploding a thermonuclear warhead, presumably in Syria, but who knows?

That is fucked up beyond all comprehension. It's so far outside the normal conception of war and the use of force that words fail me. There are concepts in just war theory, such as proportionality and non-combatant immunity that have developed in civilized nations. It's a good thing. Trump is a mad man. Words like that, coupled with the ability to actually carry them out, are extremely dangerous.

Minimize, downplay, and dismiss it all you like. But that is extremely fucked up. I just can't find a better way to put it right now.

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Donald Trump: Sure, I Might Use Nuclear Weapons In Europe. [View all] Fresh_Start May 2016 OP

If I were in the leadership of the GOP, I would drastically change the convention rules, morningfog May 2016 #1

This is a GOP wet dream Kelvin Mace May 2016 #2

I once read a study on the cost of limited nuclear war. gordianot May 2016 #7

Logically and rationally this is true, Kelvin Mace May 2016 #23

Or, book him on a small plane. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #3

Get him interested in Xtreme sports. BootinUp May 2016 #27

Trump didn't say that. He said what every president has said. BillZBubb May 2016 #4

He did say it... Fresh_Start May 2016 #5

Baloney. You put your spin on what he said. NO president has stated we would not use nukes. BillZBubb May 2016 #8

I heard that interview; he said he would use nukes. Not even Reagan did that. Demsrule86 May 2016 #12

Everyone except you, it appears, knows US defense policy with respect to Europe. BillZBubb May 2016 #19

Right Demsrule86 May 2016 #24

Holy crap! cheapdate May 2016 #32

Trump needs no defense KingFlorez May 2016 #6

So, putting words into the guy's mouth is OK? Lying about what he didn't say is OK? BillZBubb May 2016 #9

Difference of opinion KingFlorez May 2016 #10

No fact vs. fiction. Let's stick to the facts. BillZBubb May 2016 #11

Whatever you want to believe KingFlorez May 2016 #14

trump and matthews dialogue is verbatim Fresh_Start May 2016 #16

He didn't casually say "Sure, I might use nukes in Europe" in fact near the end of the BillZBubb May 2016 #20

I said the body of the OP was verbatim Fresh_Start May 2016 #22

It's no lie Demsrule86 May 2016 #13

It's a lie. No president has ever said we will never use nukes in Europe or anywhere else. BillZBubb May 2016 #17

No president has threatened to use nukes either Demsrule86 May 2016 #25

In fact it is worse than that Demsrule86 May 2016 #15

No it isn't. trump got foolishly drawn into a conversation and explained his position awkwardly. BillZBubb May 2016 #18

His policiy is not longstanding policiy Demsrule86 May 2016 #26

Not lying about Trump's position is not 'supporting Trump' JonLeibowitz May 2016 #30

Dont worry, progressives, feel free to sit this one out. JaneyVee May 2016 #21

Why such the difference in opinion with Matthews... Basement Beat May 2016 #28

One gets the impression that brown people don't matter so much to Matthews JonLeibowitz May 2016 #31

Certainly seems to be the case.... Basement Beat May 2016 #33

Sure, toss that gambler the nuclear football Blue Owl May 2016 #29

And the BoB'ers are willing to let tRump get his hands on the nuclear launch codes .... #smh n/t SFnomad May 2016 #34