Well, if there are enough of them to form a party... (Reply #91)

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Response to Cal33 (Reply #89)

Tue May 10, 2016, 04:05 PM

Adrahil (13,340 posts)

91. Well, if there are enough of them to form a party...

they can do that, I suppose.

I'm not sure that's an argument for letting them vote in our party primary. If they left the party, they left the party, though of course, I would welcome them back. I'm not opposed to multiple points of view in the party. A debate of ideas is good.

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The only reason Hillary is winning the Dem. Primaries is because the Dem. Establishment [View all]	Cal33	May 2016	OP
nope. its because votes. eom	artyteacher	May 2016	#1
The establishment tricked those people	firebrand80	May 2016	#3
It's too early in the day for such bullshit	Blue_Adept	May 2016	#34
true. n/t	leeroysphitz	May 2016	#68
An example: You don't think DWS's scheduling of the Dem. Primary Presidential Debates played	Cal33	May 2016	#8
No I don't. What's your next conspiracy?	politicaljunkie41910	May 2016	#47
Then you're wrong.	Lizzie Poppet	May 2016	#61
So you're saying DWS colluded with the GOP since almost all the Dem and GOP Primaries were held on	politicaljunkie41910	May 2016	#79
It's not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact. Everybody knows that there were around 6 Dem.	Cal33	May 2016	#74
See my other post. I don't have time to keep repeating myself like Bernie's folks do.	politicaljunkie41910	May 2016	#80
You're not going to convince any of them	Ferd Berfel	May 2016	#53
I agree with you. It might help to bring out your point though, and make it clearer to	Cal33	May 2016	#78
Suppressed independent votes. (nt)	w4rma	May 2016	#64
Yup.	peggysue2	May 2016	#65
6 million suppressed independent voters, at least. (nt)	w4rma	May 2016	#66
Independents aren't Democrats. NT	Adrahil	May 2016	#75
And, yet, if they don't vote for a Democrat then there will never be a Democratic President. (nt)	w4rma	May 2016	#84
Ain't that something?	Juicy_Bellows	May 2016	#88
And that's an argument you can make to other Democrats.	Adrahil	May 2016	#90
True, and some of them are Democrats who quit their party in disgust, because too	Cal33	May 2016	#89
Well, if there are enough of them to form a party...	Adrahil	May 2016	#91
Independents are not a party, I don't think. It's a convenient place to put all those	Cal33	May 2016	#97
And your basis for this claim is what?	mythology	May 2016	#95
Cool story, bro. nt	onehandle	May 2016	#2
.	firebrand80	May 2016	#4
Sexist...ridiculuous. Where are the men's briefs to match?	libdem4life	May 2016	#6
I suspect there are no men's briefs to match this item nt	firebrand80	May 2016	#9
And true.	Cal33	May 2016	#10
Yeah, those extra millions of popular votes don't mean anything, right?	hamsterjill	May 2016	#5
It's time to eliminate the control of Big Money Fat Cats in our government.	rhett o rick	May 2016	#16
"Big Money Fat Cats" ?	Tarc	May 2016	#22
So, are you advocating simply disregarding the popular vote?	hamsterjill	May 2016	#23
Disregarding the Independent voter , gives us the 2 most disliked candidates ever!	bahrbearian	May 2016	#30
I didn't realize that I was disregarding the Independent voter.	hamsterjill	May 2016	#45
That's not the only reason. n/t	Orsino	May 2016	#7
Of course, there are many more.	Cal33	May 2016	#12
I agree	J_J_	May 2016	#11
More and more people are becoming aware of how screwed we the 99% are with no help	Dragonfli	May 2016	#49
Yes, dissatisfaction among us is mounting, and Bernie saw this and he also saw that	Cal33	May 2016	#96
Speaking of talk radio, how do you think they would treat Bernie if	Arkansas Granny	May 2016	#52
Talk radio is not representative of the electorate. Thankfully.	sasmath	May 2016	#54
Yes, this is true.	lastone	May 2016	#13
Hillary supporters refuse to see this, even when it's staring at them in the face.	Cal33	May 2016	#15
It's Authoritarian Adulation	rhett o rick	May 2016	#17
She is winning because of VOTES.	apcalc	May 2016	#14
Bernie would have had more votes than Hillary, if he hadn't been unfairly suppressed by DWS and	Cal33	May 2016	#19
How did DWS suppress votes?	Nonhlanhla	May 2016	#58
Those minorities screwed it up for Bernie!	LexVegas	May 2016	#18
How dare they?????	tonyt53	May 2016	#35
Hillary is running as the first woman prez	mindwalker_i	May 2016	#20
I've never heard so many weak excuses for losing	redstateblues	May 2016	#21
Did you take into consideration, for example, the different voter suppression methods involved? Or	Cal33	May 2016	#25
+1	JoePhilly	May 2016	#70
Gasp*** Because Democrats support Democrats. God Forbid. The audacity of the woman. And Dems,	seabeyond	May 2016	#24
If Hillary had been as honest as Bernie, I don't think he would have even considered running. I	Cal33	May 2016	#32
Or could it be that Hillary is not as dishonest as you and others want people to believe	asuhornets	May 2016	#41
Clinton kicks Sanders ass in honest. Policy given alone shows Clinton much more honest.	seabeyond	May 2016	#63
+1,000,000. nt.	polly7	May 2016	#85
No, it's because women and especially voters of color have consistently supported her	YoungDemCA	May 2016	#26
The Democratic Establishment bat mobile kipnapped me and made me vote for Hillary..n/t	asuhornets	May 2016	#27
Sounds reasonable enough - if I was a Bernie conspiracy theorist	tonyt53	May 2016	#33
"The only ... decent human being" is Bernie. Wow, you convinced me.	CrowCityDem	May 2016	#28
You picked from what you read only what you chose to see. I made it quite plain that	Cal33	May 2016	#38
I know exactly what you mean. Saying that about Hillary is disgusting.	CrowCityDem	May 2016	#39
Disgustingly true.	Cal33	May 2016	#56
You showed who isn't a decent human being, that's for sure. Just wasn't who you think.	CrowCityDem	May 2016	#60
With a HUGE SuperPAC funded by corporations and millionaires, with DWS tilting the playing field to	Attorney in Texas	May 2016	#29
And in the GE the Republicans have had much more experience at voter and election fraud than	Cal33	May 2016	#42
It makes you wonder just how well Sanders would have done without the	polly7	May 2016	#44
Yes. It certainly would have been a blow-out!	Cal33	May 2016	#69
The more exposure Bernie gets, the more people like him	RufusTFirefly	May 2016	#31
Your first sentence is false.	sasmath	May 2016	#55
Well, aren't you special.	Maedhros	May 2016	#57
Sorry, but the plural of anecdote isn't data. n/t	RufusTFirefly	May 2016	#93
3 million more votes for Hillary vs Sanders	workinclasszero	May 2016	#36
Yep...	NewImproved Deal	May 2016	#37
I think dem establishment is stunned at how well Sanders has done.	CrispyQ	May 2016	#40
And yet he is still losing...Nothing will change that..n/t	asuhornets	May 2016	#43
WTF	CrispyQ	May 2016	#46
NOPE...	asuhornets	May 2016	#48
No they can't	pengu	May 2016	#51
K&R	Dragonfli	May 2016	#50
Maybe not the 'only' reason, but the DNC clearly colluded with the Hillary campaign	Maedhros	May 2016	#59
K & R	AzDar	May 2016	#62
The Democratic establishment and their blind followers	Broward	May 2016	#67
There are people who feel very uncomfortable when they have to deal with uncertainty. A few	Cal33	May 2016	#71
Oh shit!!! Right on!!!	wendylaroux	May 2016	#77
Cal33—Media. Closed Primaries. 45–64 and 65+ outweighing 17–29 and 30–44 turnout size of the vote.	CobaltBlue	May 2016	#72
I find it amusing how many people judge her	Sparkly	May 2016	#73
Another reason - I AND PEOPLE LIKE ME VOTED FOR HER.	Gomez163	May 2016	#76
and because there seem to be these "voting irregularities" in important states. Hmmmmmmm.	pdsimdars	May 2016	#81
Thus far	jamese777	May 2016	#82
The Dem. Establishment has shifted right during those 40 years, and Hillary shifted along	Cal33	May 2016	#94
Much of the base	Turin_C3PO	May 2016	#83
This message was self-deleted by its author	1StrongBlackMan	May 2016	#86
That's nice	Dem2	May 2016	#87
The reason Hillary is winning is that voters prefer her policies and experience	synergie	May 2016	#92

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