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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #27)

Tue May 10, 2016, 05:37 PM

28. That 18 trillion number is bullshit. Widely debunked.

The fact of the matter is it is disingenuous- to say the least- to claim that "18 trillion of free stuff" which includes suppsedly 17 trillion in health care spending, is somehow a logical asssement of the proposal when it negates the fact that a single payer plan would eliminate not just the overhead of the private insurance industry (estimated in some cases as up to 20% on top of the other costs) but would also take peoples' insurance premiums out of the equation entirely.

But according to the CDC, total health spending in the US is 3 Trillion dollars, more or less. So to believe this "17 trillion" bullshit, you would have to imagine that putting everyone in the country under a single payer plan would magically multiply total spending on health care costs by nearly SIX FUCKING TIMES.

health care isnt like grass-fed beef. People dont run out and get extra triple bypasses that they dont need just because now they can afford it. And if total spending would go up, what that means is there are a lot of people who ARENT getting the care they need, under the current arrangement.


But my main point is, "FREE STUFF WARRRRGGHHHBLLLLLL" is a boilerplate right wing meme, chief.

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