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BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
20. Of course he'll carry Oregon and Kentucky
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:42 AM
May 2016

as well as Montana. But he trails hugely in California and the demographics there do not favor him. The voting patterns in this election are clear. Polls show Bernie trailing Clinton by double digits in California--the same polls that Bernie insists matter more than the votes of actual citizens because they show him doing better against Trump than Clinton does. But the fact he is doesn't have a better chance of beating Trump because is not and will not be the nominee. Super delegates are not going to fulfil Bernie's dreams by overturning the results of democratic elections and impose him in office against the will of the electorate.

There is nothing that signals contempt for the rights of American citizens more than a determination to strip them of their ability to chose their elected officials by the ballot box.

Another point. Clinton won the California primary in 2008 and she at no point trailed in earned delegates by anywhere near what Bernie does now. She still didn't win the nomination. Nor did she argue that she should be able to overturn the results of existing elections because she and her voters were just more important than the rest of Americans. She instead conceded and backed Barack Obama. Bernie instead argues that my vote, the votes of over 12 million Americans, don't really matter in comparison to corporate polls that show him doing better against Trump, even though those same polls show Clinton kicking Trump's ass. That people support his efforts to subvert the people's rights to select their nominee by the ballot box and to nullify the votes of the Democratic electorate--especially people of color, the most loyal Democratic voting groups, who also support Clinton rather than Sanders--tell me the singular goal is now and has always been undermining the rights of the majority.

I watched the whole speech. It was his most amazing yet. He was on fire! nt silvershadow May 2016 #1
Bernie! RobertEarl May 2016 #2
That is the way I feel! Samantha May 2016 #6
I'm reregistering as a Dem again just to make sure my vote counts!!! cui bono May 2016 #21
BERNie is always on fire! He's got this! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #3
I only got to watch part of it, but couldn't help but notice he has regained his momentum Samantha May 2016 #5
That speech was the epitome of being Presidential. Uncle Joe May 2016 #14
Very astute comment, Uncle Joe Samantha May 2016 #17
It's good to see you as well, Sam Uncle Joe May 2016 #24
Bill Press worked as an Intern in Bernie's Senate Office the year before he helped Bernie politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #4
Yes, CSPAN is my friend and I saw the interview when Bill Press discussed the initial meetings at Samantha May 2016 #8
Hee. bvf May 2016 #11
Surely you gest. As many conspiracy theories that originate out of the Bernie supporters. politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #13
It's "jest," not "gest." bvf May 2016 #16
I love people like you. Fawke Em May 2016 #19
I think it's pretty obvious who is calculating and conniving dreamnightwind May 2016 #12
That's it? A wild conspiracy theory? That belongs in the creative speculation group. nt silvershadow May 2016 #15
Bill Press is a bit of an anti-Obama/anti-Clinton/Pro-Bernie partisan, so perhaps synergie May 2016 #7
Bernie is doing great and is going to be barnstorming California Samantha May 2016 #9
It's not going to change the math. He has no path to the nomination, and even he knows it. synergie May 2016 #22
bill press just said, as bernie campaign spokes person and surrogate.... nt msongs May 2016 #10
Yes, Bernie will take California. The Oligarch Twins are not popular here... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #18
Of course he'll carry Oregon and Kentucky BainsBane May 2016 #20
Bill Press oversaw as Chairman of the California Democratic Party BlueStateLib May 2016 #23
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