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apnu

(8,722 posts)
20. What?
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

Not denying that Hillary and Bernie haven't been smearing each other, they have, but Hillary has been beating Bernie with women and minorities from Iowa forward. Long before smears came in. I don't think the smears are changing many minds. Hillary's always had strong support with women and minorities and that hasn't changed.

Sanders civil rights history doesn't seem to be considered by anyone but people around here, despite the fact that a few Civil Rights leaders did stand up and say they didn't remember Bernie back then and were proved wrong really fast and very publicly.

Moving beyond Bernie's protest days, which are long behind him, what votes has Bernie had that differed from Clinton on civil rights or gender equality? How about LGBTQ issues?

Plans don't need to make sense when you know you won't win. CrowCityDem May 2016 #1
'Zactly Albertoo May 2016 #2
This is total BS.. Study after study shows SINGLE payer would save a huge amount of money Baobab May 2016 #40
Partly true Albertoo May 2016 #52
No, he's making the only promises that will work, also Clinton is locking in bad policy Baobab May 2016 #69
We're already spending $3.2 trillion per year on health care. We see this crap that rates Bernie's brewens May 2016 #80
Another baloney hit piece from the Washington Post CoffeeCat May 2016 #3
Within 7 hrs, Jeff Bezos' WaPo Squeezes Out 4 Anti-Sanders Stories From 1 Tax Study RiverLover May 2016 #51
Minorities have seen through his bullshit since the beginning. nt LexVegas May 2016 #4
What utter shit. Bernie has the best record on minority rights by leaps and bounds cali May 2016 #11
Oh yeah...we have Stockholm Syndrome. Or we're low information. I forget. LexVegas May 2016 #12
Well it is odd..... JPnoodleman May 2016 #24
What? apnu May 2016 #20
But Clinton wants to give all our service jobs to Africa and Asian firms. Here! How generous. Baobab May 2016 #70
Yep! Iliyah May 2016 #14
Go Bernie liberal from boston May 2016 #18
+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #26
More Establishment chaff released. Orsino May 2016 #5
Oh what crap cali May 2016 #6
So, vote for him even though not even he is sure his plans are realistic? TwilightZone May 2016 #7
That isn't what I said, dear. cali May 2016 #9
It's exactly what you said, honey. TwilightZone May 2016 #10
Agree 100% with what you said earlier. Wellstone ruled May 2016 #15
Go Bernie liberal from boston May 2016 #19
Go Bernie liberal from boston May 2016 #21
there are many great reasons to vote for him-- Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #46
The experts say magic would need to happen in order to enact his proposals. Albertoo May 2016 #8
A lot of what he proposes are not "promises". Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #48
Pipe dreams are not an agenda Albertoo May 2016 #56
The Washington Post is selling a fantasy agenda ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #13
So they multiply by ten to exaggerate by an order of magnitude... scscholar May 2016 #16
They definitely would have called JFK's plan to send a man to the moon a fantasy agenda. Vinca May 2016 #17
Serious papers never called JFK lunar plan a fantasy agenda Albertoo May 2016 #22
We have a choice. We can spent the trillions on killing people or helping people. Vinca May 2016 #44
clearly that's fantasy talk Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #49
Let Bernie say he will cut defense by 17 Trillion Albertoo May 2016 #53
It's amazing. I remember when Democrats stood for what Bernie is pitching. Vinca May 2016 #84
Getting money out of politics is the most important jack_krass May 2016 #23
Well, that's conflating two issues Albertoo May 2016 #25
Removing corporate money and influence in politics *is* Bernies program jack_krass May 2016 #45
No. A serious politiciam cannot let TRILLIONS **details** to be worked out Albertoo May 2016 #54
Bernie is the most "fit" of the three current POTUS candidates... jack_krass May 2016 #63
Similar story from AP via yahoo regarding the 18 TRILLION still_one May 2016 #27
Bernie promises things he knows he can't deliver. He has no real plan. redstateblues May 2016 #28
At the beginning of this process I had a favorable view of him also. That is no longer the case still_one May 2016 #35
Responses pat_k May 2016 #42
They're pulling out all stops now. Panic is upon them. WP lost its' journalistic credibility silvershadow May 2016 #29
Based on Urban-Brookings fatally flawed "analysis" pat_k May 2016 #30
That type of 'growth assumption' is what bankrupted Europe and Japan Albertoo May 2016 #31
Recommend reading the linked critiques. pat_k May 2016 #32
P.S. Any analysis of proposed legislation by GAO would include models for stimulus effect. pat_k May 2016 #33
You cannot stimulate an economy which is as far in debt as that of the US (or Japan, Britain) Albertoo May 2016 #34
wholly crap are you wrong. You must love hearing yourself talk, I sure hope so, cause no one else litlbilly May 2016 #41
What an insightful and polite comment Albertoo May 2016 #50
I, for one, love the idea of "fantasy land," Nyan May 2016 #36
He'll do well in Anaheim. . . . ucrdem May 2016 #37
that's a blog post from a Hillary supporter---full of false smears amborin May 2016 #38
Oh no - that's "journalism"... dchill May 2016 #79
And we are back to meme 1. Live and Learn May 2016 #39
That's wonderful! pat_k May 2016 #43
Why does a sprinkle of socialism to keep predatory capitalism in check, B Calm May 2016 #47
Because socialism failed everywhere Albertoo May 2016 #55
You sound like a Republican. B Calm May 2016 #57
Most of Hillary's superfanz do. QC May 2016 #60
It's like conservative republicans have gave up on the GOP and have taken over B Calm May 2016 #62
That's exactly what has happened--as the GOP has descended into Jonestown QC May 2016 #68
Great analysis of what is really going on here! B Calm May 2016 #73
Thanks, but I wish I was wrong. QC May 2016 #75
Me too! B Calm May 2016 #76
This ^^^^^^^! TheSarcastinator May 2016 #78
K&R B Calm May 2016 #86
JFK was not a Sandersista Albertoo May 2016 #85
I'd rather buy "hope" than "no, we can't" EndElectoral May 2016 #58
Some men see things and say why... One of the 99 May 2016 #59
how dare we dream, right? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #61
Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #64
As a matter of pure principal, does anyone really have a problem with Bernie's policy goals? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #65
I am starting to think that Hillary's supporters, especially the brand new to DU ones, actually DO djean111 May 2016 #66
That may well be, but I'd like to know who the Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #72
No, but when the Third Way and MIC and Wall Street and corporate agendas are carried out, djean111 May 2016 #74
Excellent point. ladjf May 2016 #71
WaPo..... HooptieWagon May 2016 #67
It's what the Washington Post is selling... dchill May 2016 #77
and what exactly, is Hillary selling? Hiraeth May 2016 #81
Actual governance is a 'fantasy' to Hillary AgingAmerican May 2016 #82
Bezos bashes Bernie -- Part 1345 Armstead May 2016 #83
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