2016 Postmortem

tonyt53

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35. I'd say you just hit the nail on the head.

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:44 AM

May 2016

Obviously Bernie, and his supporters, are not aware that groups, organizations, and companies will hire speakers for events and meetings. Rarely do they ever speak about the business of those groups, organizations, or companies. They are hired to speak about their life experiences. The more interesting those experiences, the more they are paid. I've been fortunate to hear a lot of interesting paid speakers over the years. None ever spoke about the functions of those groups they were addressing. So yes, it is the same speech, with a little ad lib tossed in.

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When Will Hillary Clinton Release Her Wall Street Transcripts? [View all] coffeeAM May 2016 OP

Nevah. Nor should she. None of your business. What is Sanders hiding with tax returns? seabeyond May 2016 #1

I am sure that argument will go over well with the General election voters. coffeeAM May 2016 #8

Her transcripts matter most to those who have no intention of ever voting for her anyway. thesquanderer May 2016 #20

Exactly.... Only used for a tool to attack. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #45

Doesn't that make it a problem? GummyBearz May 2016 #49

Absolutely, squeaky clean, nothing to hide... dchill May 2016 #55

There will always be another demand. No. seabeyond May 2016 #106

Oh GummyBearz May 2016 #116

Yes, it is. Personal life that had nothing to do with govermental position. None of your business. seabeyond May 2016 #118

The nature and beliefs of my future commander in chief is my business GummyBearz May 2016 #122

Then I want to Sanders taxes, know about sending toxins to to Texas, selling his vote to Democrats. seabeyond May 2016 #156

Yea, someone should ask him those questions GummyBearz May 2016 #159

What do yu want to know? coffeeAM May 2016 #174

Everything GummyBearz May 2016 #176

What do you mean? coffeeAM May 2016 #181

A democratic Predidents Job is to keep wall street in check. coffeeAM May 2016 #123

You can see by her 2007 plan she put together to address it. More than what Sanders has. seabeyond May 2016 #157

Ya, now the RW can pick up on what Sanders started, not that anyone cares, just something to pound seabeyond May 2016 #44

Just release them and we will not have to go through this, it is that simple! coffeeAM May 2016 #48

"We" aren't going through anything, the Sanders people are going through it for some odd reason. George II May 2016 #60

No. By gosh, make your demands and expect them followed. No. I want Sanders taxes. seabeyond May 2016 #64

+100 spinboas May 2016 #223

what world is this? reddread May 2016 #161

Why? She was a private citizen then, not serving in an elected or appointed public office . . . brush May 2016 #201

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #210

Was Mitt Romney's leaked 47% remark no-one's business? nt. polly7 May 2016 #21

all those speeches, all those thousands of attendees and waiters and no leaking? Sheepshank May 2016 #25

I've read that she forbade anyone but her own transcriber to keep record of a single word she polly7 May 2016 #32

she can say what she wants, people with an agenda will do what they will Sheepshank May 2016 #75

Oh quit with the straw-man bullshit. I'm talking about her speeches to polly7 May 2016 #77

your explanation was piled deep and broad here. Sheepshank May 2016 #79

The likes of me? polly7 May 2016 #80

Yes, you have opinions and they often mean squat to me Sheepshank May 2016 #85

And yours and 'the likes of you' mean squat to me. polly7 May 2016 #86

I've read that she allowed anyone who asked to be allowed in the room(s). George II May 2016 #125

Really? That's odd ........... never seen mention of that at all. polly7 May 2016 #128

Nor I your "I've read....." George II May 2016 #132

I've read it HERE. Good try though. nt. polly7 May 2016 #133

Yep. It's almost like there's nothing there. COLGATE4 May 2016 #61

It was a gotcha moment, and no, not really. I get you are looking for a gotcha. Hey, I want to hear seabeyond May 2016 #46

It was more than a 'gotcha' moment. polly7 May 2016 #47

Of course it became a gotcha moment. So, lets demand peoples diary entry so we can really see what seabeyond May 2016 #62

Wtf are you going on about? Not a single reply to what I said. polly7 May 2016 #71

WTF are you going on about. Personal earning outside of government, bad. Sanders within government seabeyond May 2016 #105

She was planning on running for President. polly7 May 2016 #107

She was planning on...? Cough up personal, private stuff. Sanders not planning so hide his stuff? seabeyond May 2016 #110

Good god. polly7 May 2016 #112

I know, right? seabeyond May 2016 #113

I'm glad you know. Exactly what ........ I have no idea. nt. polly7 May 2016 #117

Wow, witty, .... Bah ha hahahah. seabeyond May 2016 #119

Wasn't meant to be witty. polly7 May 2016 #120

I posted some of that a few months ago, it got hidden in a Burlington minute. George II May 2016 #126

I believe the remarks were made at an actual campaign event LisaM May 2016 #179

+100 spinboas May 2016 #224

Private addresses for money to the architects of the Great Recession ought not to remain hidden. Orsino May 2016 #160

No it does not look corrupt. It looks like a desperate campaign looking for a gotcha, dependent seabeyond May 2016 #164

That's not what hiding transcripts looks like. n/t Orsino May 2016 #165

Nothing about hiding. All about... none of your business. See how you create your scenario. Hiding? seabeyond May 2016 #166

Hidden per the contracts she signed. That's her creation.. Orsino May 2016 #167

As it should be. This was handled in normal fashion. Absolutely. seabeyond May 2016 #168

Normal for wealthy elites who block journalistic access... Orsino May 2016 #169

Speakers and their material, end of story. Again, creating a bullshit scenario. seabeyond May 2016 #170

What's in the transcripts that only Clinton and G-S should know? n/t Orsino May 2016 #171

Her personal stuff, in her personal life, that is none of your business. She does not need to seabeyond May 2016 #172

Giving speeches to wall street is not her personal business once she decided to run for president! coffeeAM May 2016 #173

Yes. It is. seabeyond May 2016 #192

Ya, in your dreams. coffeeAM May 2016 #195

What a silly comment. This was done in her personal, private world nothing to do with a gov position seabeyond May 2016 #197

Oh come on, you really do not believe that.. coffeeAM May 2016 #206

Don't tell me what I believe or not. I think its petty yelling,... transcripts. Looking for a gotcha seabeyond May 2016 #216

What was so special in these talks to auditoriums full of G-S personnel... Orsino May 2016 #226

Nothing is special, and still... none of your business. People do not get to make demands of Clinton seabeyond May 2016 #227

Pathetic spin. Orsino May 2016 #230

I do not think it is spin at all. I would strongly advocate that Clinton does not buckle under your seabeyond May 2016 #231

I think we should demand openness of our candidates... Orsino May 2016 #232

I want Sanders taxes, Discussion on how grand food lines are, Theories on overthrowing SAmerica seabeyond May 2016 #233

This makes no sense when excusing Clinton... Orsino May 2016 #234

I think it is outrageous for me to demand Sanders hidden conversations on communism and seabeyond May 2016 #235

Nonsense. Orsino May 2016 #236

As I want to know Sanders Socialist/Communist positions. seabeyond May 2016 #237

I believe it is my business since she is running to be president of the country. pinskinny May 2016 #239

If we can't get those transcripts... Orsino May 2016 #253

She is running for the highest office in the land, and yet you tell voters "none of your business"? NorthCarolina May 2016 #211

You cannot take a peek into her diary, either. seabeyond May 2016 #212

Please... NorthCarolina May 2016 #213

No, I do not. Because I do not fall in with your agenda is no embarrassment at all. seabeyond May 2016 #215

that ugly word democracy is so passe reddread May 2016 #214

Except, Clinton is the only one having these demands made on her. No other politician, ever. seabeyond May 2016 #217

after the massive meltdown, bailout and the dead sea that is our current economy? reddread May 2016 #218

Ya. I dunno. That would be the Repugs to go after. I get Sanders and his "Dems" are more comfortable seabeyond May 2016 #219

republican or Democrat, the economy matters reddread May 2016 #220

I do not get your post seabeyond May 2016 #221

If Trump isn't going to release his taxes, I don't know that he'd make an issue over her transcripts thesquanderer May 2016 #2

Trump has many speech transcripts, too. Wasn't he the highest paid speaker on the circuit blm May 2016 #13

Hillary has transcripts of her speeches. Donald probably does not. thesquanderer May 2016 #18

Not the point, is it? You can shiver in your boots and entertain the RW propagandists blm May 2016 #22

I don't remember trump using static noise to prevent people from hearing his speeches GummyBearz May 2016 #56

Yep. The Former First Lady... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #3

A polite way for Hillary to say "Kiss My Ass". NurseJackie May 2016 #7

Hillary's Dislikebility factor is captured in that smug smile & quote. n/t Merryland May 2016 #29

Nixon x Bush reddread May 2016 #34

Benghaziiiiiiiiiiii! Ohioblue22 May 2016 #42

Gee, that's always such a funny reply. It's too bad good people died though. nt. polly7 May 2016 #50

It's also a pointless witch hunt. It can be more than one Ohioblue22 May 2016 #83

Only when it's to her advantage so to do. NurseJackie May 2016 #4

This is about the millionth thread on this. cwydro May 2016 #5

To distract from Bernie's FEC legal issues ... NurseJackie May 2016 #24

Never I hope griffi94 May 2016 #6

He ain't running for President unless I missed something... Merryland May 2016 #28

He's a senator griffi94 May 2016 #30

What's breathtaking is that laruemtt May 2016 #9

Yep, because a potential Presidential candidate who has the obligation to disclose COLGATE4 May 2016 #65

I don't think she will and I see no reason for her to do so. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #10

She's running for President and she wants our votes dana_b May 2016 #93

The real problem with this SmittynMo May 2016 #11

+ 1,000! laruemtt May 2016 #12

She already did while you were gone. We read them, fell asleep, and moved on. Buzz Clik May 2016 #14

What is crazy is Bernie and Donald are the only candidates who refused to release tax returns. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #16

What are you on about? Sanders released his 2014 return, complete and fully. 12 days after ... ebayfool May 2016 #94

One year of tax returns. The Clinton have released thirty!!! DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #96

Could it be because they've been running for Prez for damn near 30 years, between the 2 of em? ebayfool May 2016 #97

Richard Nixon started the tradition of presidential candidates releasing years of tax returns. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #98

Oy! I gotta get ready for work. ebayfool May 2016 #99

How about when everyone else who runs for office... yallerdawg May 2016 #15

No one is saying she has to do it but it's in her best interest. Lindsixo May 2016 #104

So if we have a President Trump in November... yallerdawg May 2016 #108

I want her to release the transcripts of speeches up here paid for the two big banks polly7 May 2016 #17

Actually, you don't. COLGATE4 May 2016 #66

Yes, I do! polly7 May 2016 #100

I'm confused. Are you a U.S. citizen? COLGATE4 May 2016 #134

No. I'm not. polly7 May 2016 #135

Just wanted to be clear on the facts. Is there an international agreement of some kind that COLGATE4 May 2016 #136

I don't give a crap if there is or not, 'I', as a tax-paying citizen want to know! nt. polly7 May 2016 #137

Do you pay taxes in the U.S. ? COLGATE4 May 2016 #139

She gave these speeches up here - all over the place. nt. polly7 May 2016 #140

Thanks. I was aware of that. Now, as I mentioned COLGATE4 May 2016 #141

Do you pay taxes in Canada? nt. polly7 May 2016 #142

No, since I'm neither a Canadian citizen nor do any business in Canada. COLGATE4 May 2016 #144

No, I don't. polly7 May 2016 #145

You may believe you have a 'right to know'. What do you not have is COLGATE4 May 2016 #146

I have an absolute right to know, regardless of WHERE that person is from. polly7 May 2016 #147

Only in your own mind. You have every right to demand things COLGATE4 May 2016 #150

Mine and many others' minds. Only in your mind is it given that we polly7 May 2016 #153

I said you have no right to demand. (Your words) COLGATE4 May 2016 #154

I demand? My words??? - where exactly did I use the word 'demand'? polly7 May 2016 #155

Uh, we all deserve to see the speeches because maybe she's hiding something she doesnt want u to see pinskinny May 2016 #240

Really? COLGATE4 May 2016 #241

Considering her track record, yes really! pinskinny May 2016 #242

I was commenting on the depth and sophistication COLGATE4 May 2016 #243

Seems like you need it plain and simple since you are having difficulties seeing the problem pinskinny May 2016 #244

Most of us have gotten past using 5th Grade logic COLGATE4 May 2016 #245

Over analyzation has clouded your brain. pinskinny May 2016 #247

Simple facts like the word you want is "stare", not "stair"? COLGATE4 May 2016 #252

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #254

Never, because there's only one transcript. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #19

I'd say you just hit the nail on the head. tonyt53 May 2016 #35

Gotta love the suspension of morality... Darkhawk32 May 2016 #23

That is what I am thinking and fear. coffeeAM May 2016 #39

Sure you do. zappaman May 2016 #63

What if there ARE NO TRANSCRIPTS? Merryland May 2016 #26

That must be it. As a matter of fact, I think I read that COLGATE4 May 2016 #67

True so many people would have attended Lindsixo May 2016 #74

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never oldandhappy May 2016 #27

she is a fool if she thinks they will not get leaked krawhitham May 2016 #31

Its likely there are no transcripts. procon May 2016 #57

I believe you are right on. COLGATE4 May 2016 #68

Never. Hillary Clinton has cornered herself into a lose-lose regards the transcripts. PufPuf23 May 2016 #33

Bingo! coffeeAM May 2016 #38

yep 840high May 2016 #131

When is someone going to come up with a valid reason for her releasing them? How do you know..... George II May 2016 #36

The day after Sanders releases his tax-returns. Bazinga! DetlefK May 2016 #37

He did already. Bazinga! ebayfool May 2016 #95

You have no right to see her transcripts. You'll need to look elsewhere for your ammo Ohioblue22 May 2016 #40

She is Running for president of the United States, we the tax payers have every right! coffeeAM May 2016 #43

Says you. Not convincing authority. COLGATE4 May 2016 #69

We the tax payers, not me the tax payer. coffeeAM May 2016 #72

Did I miss the memo where you were designated spokesperson COLGATE4 May 2016 #73

You are wrong Ohioblue22 May 2016 #82

? coffeeAM May 2016 #91

Did Nixon have a right to keep his transcripts secret? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #111

Nixon lol. You have zero rights to those transcripts Ohioblue22 May 2016 #121

Hillary must release her Wall Street transcripts, so says another Bernie fan. procon May 2016 #41

She'll do it before I vote for her, that's all I know. n/t brewens May 2016 #51

not even a good try. The Democratic Party doesn't give a shit about her transcripts. Lil Missy May 2016 #52

Trump probably already has the transcripts, OCTOBER SURPRISE? B Calm May 2016 #53

In the general election when she is looking to attract certain Republicans. Skwmom May 2016 #54

That could very well be it! +1 B Calm May 2016 #58

Yep. Hang on to that (new) false hope. It'll keep you warm, COLGATE4 May 2016 #70

You'll read them in her presidential library lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #59

when Satan purchases a snowmobile. yourout May 2016 #76

Hillary is cooked Rass May 2016 #78

Thus Far jamese777 May 2016 #81

Nearly 10 million dems say IM NOT WITH HER after the establishement rolled out the red carpet 4 her coffeeAM May 2016 #84

That nearly 13 million DEMOCRATS have said "I'm with her" tells me HRC will be the nominee. Fla Dem May 2016 #163

and suppressing votes too dont forget. Lindsixo May 2016 #196

+100 spinboas May 2016 #222

Superdelegates have not voted yet Rass May 2016 #90

Don't hold your breath! BootinUp May 2016 #87

Its part of the vetting process and that involves looking into any possible scandal. Lindsixo May 2016 #114

The Republicans will release them once it's too late Ferd Berfel May 2016 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #89

She is dragging the party through the mud and making it look bad, that is the reason! coffeeAM May 2016 #92

yes and we're constantly hearing about how Hillary is vetted and Bernie is not. Lindsixo May 2016 #101

NOBODY cares! George II May 2016 #115

Yup, nothing to see here, just move along folks! coffeeAM May 2016 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #102

I don't understand what you mean DesertRat May 2016 #103

Not except in response to a congressional subpoena. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #109

Never. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #127

How about never??? Does never work for you??? Gomez163 May 2016 #129

No it does not and it should not work for anyone that values transparency!! coffeeAM May 2016 #138

She doesnt have to. Bernie is TOAST. Gomez163 May 2016 #143

She doesnt have to, butshe is making the party look bad by not doing it! coffeeAM May 2016 #149

I see the goal posts are moving yet again, even in this thread. The silvershadow May 2016 #130

the "we cant" campaign becomes "we wont" reddread May 2016 #162

they could be a USEFUL weapon for the RIGHT wing in oct. what is she afraid of? pansypoo53219 May 2016 #148

I saw them, I have a friend who knows the organizer. She said Wall Street folks arent evil Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #151

You "saw them", did you? MrMickeysMom May 2016 #249

Never, nor does she need to. SylviaD May 2016 #152

Does she really need to? redStateBlueHeart May 2016 #158

There are now stories popping up about the gop looking for them. Which I'm sure they are. Lindsixo May 2016 #175

What stories? coffeeAM May 2016 #183

I saw this video. Lindsixo May 2016 #184

This guy is saying exactly what is gonna happen, the dems need to open their freakin eyes! coffeeAM May 2016 #185

Do you mind if I put thid video in the main body of the post? coffeeAM May 2016 #191

Not at all. I'm just passing it along. Lindsixo May 2016 #193

Thank you, I just have to figure out how to do it.. coffeeAM May 2016 #194

You did it. Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #204

I would say the day after Hell freezes over. n/t doc03 May 2016 #177

Still waiting for the transcripts of Sanders and conversations he has had with NRA, GE, Thinkingabout May 2016 #178

So your basically saying Clinton will be influenced by wall street? coffeeAM May 2016 #186

Never said that, i know Sanders has been influenced, Sanders and others has not Thinkingabout May 2016 #188

ya im sure they just give 15 million away for the hell of it. coffeeAM May 2016 #189

Sanders has been influenced? In what alternate universe? coffeeAM May 2016 #198

As in voting five times against the Brady Bill after the NRA donated $18,000 Thinkingabout May 2016 #200

Excellent vote by him considering what was attached to those bills by the establishment! coffeeAM May 2016 #203

We dont know anything of the sort. Lindsixo May 2016 #187

Yes... That's why he rated a "D-" from the NRA... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #248

After Romney's 47% taped remarks, I suspect Jarqui May 2016 #180

People keep thinking... deathrind May 2016 #182

never! laserhaas May 2016 #190

When the price is right. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #199

Transcripts, schmanscripts... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #202

with Wall street? coffeeAM May 2016 #205

If I had to guess, late June, and they'll be boring as hell Recursion May 2016 #207

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I think she will release them next month. spinboas May 2016 #225

What has given you that idea? primnickel May 2016 #229

not happening Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #228

why would she show the world the favors she owes wall street? pinskinny May 2016 #238

She knows she would look terrible so she's weighed the risk and decided not to. Logical May 2016 #246

Ya but she looks like she is lying by not releasing them. pinskinny May 2016 #250

I 100% agree. Logical May 2016 #251

Yes she does! primnickel May 2016 #256

K & R AzDar May 2016 #255