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2016 Postmortem

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H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
63. Interesting.
Fri May 13, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016

I think that the republican party faced a potential Chicago '68 experience, if the establishment had tried to deny Trump the nomination. I do not think that similar dynamics hold for Philadelphia. But your post provides food for thought.

In '68, the young people were protesting against the Democratic Party, as it was without question the "war party." If RFK had not been killed, the "leaders" at Chicago would not have called for the demonstrations. McCarthy, by this time, had shown some personality quirks that suggested he was not entirely serious about his campaign -- including a lack of respect for the anti-war leaders ....of course, he had seen both MLK and RFK killed, and Eugene was not stupid.

The Philadelphia demonstrations are not "anti-Democratic Party." We are the Democratic Party. We aren't coming there to throw bricks from rooftops, or start fires in the streets. We are not coming to disrupt. Rather, we are coming to make an organized statement, in the spirit of Martin Luther King.

I'm still in the middle of my first cup of coffee this morning. I wanted to start a response to your important post now .....and hope others will, as well. I will add more later today. Until then, thank you for raising these very important points.

Grapes [View all] H2O Man May 2016 OP
Fantastic essay. I agree with every word. K&R myrna minx May 2016 #1
Thank you! H2O Man May 2016 #2
Giving your flamebait a wide pass. procon May 2016 #3
Or, then again, H2O Man May 2016 #5
Hard to tell when you use a clickbait title like "Grapes", yeah? procon May 2016 #11
Silly you. H2O Man May 2016 #18
Yes, because that would be the expectation in GD: P. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #31
I guess I H2O Man May 2016 #33
Concord. Without a doubt. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #36
! H2O Man May 2016 #38
Read your OP twice, failed to find the derogatory phrases. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #44
Right. H2O Man May 2016 #47
When Sensitive soul May 2016 #48
good one JumpinJehosaphat May 2016 #49
funny... i saw nothing derogatory tk2kewl May 2016 #10
It's a two way street, yeah? procon May 2016 #13
again, what is derogatory about the OP? tk2kewl May 2016 #15
Call it speculation H2O Man May 2016 #19
maybe they just don't like grapes tk2kewl May 2016 #20
A case of H2O Man May 2016 #22
Of course you don't, and that's symptomatic of a larger problem. procon May 2016 #23
so what am i missing? tk2kewl May 2016 #24
A pattern emerges: H2O Man May 2016 #27
I'm with you tk2kewl May 2016 #35
It is curious H2O Man May 2016 #39
Precision of Language, please. Thanks for the OP. I think you could be right! Hiraeth May 2016 #4
Thank you! H2O Man May 2016 #7
Agreed. mmonk May 2016 #6
Right. H2O Man May 2016 #8
Most excellent post! mindwalker_i May 2016 #9
Exactly. H2O Man May 2016 #21
See is also too much a part of the system mindwalker_i May 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #53
What it comes down to is the radical solutions are the only ones that offer even a modicum of hope Vincardog May 2016 #12
what it has come down to... tk2kewl May 2016 #14
Our politicians are not scientists but their donnors hate scientists. Vincardog May 2016 #16
sometimes they like to play doctor though tk2kewl May 2016 #17
If they hate them so much hootinholler May 2016 #37
They want them to lie for them why else? Vincardog May 2016 #54
Well said. H2O Man May 2016 #34
Thank you for the excellent OP. Vincardog May 2016 #55
Excellent Post! jpmonk91 May 2016 #26
Beautiful! H2O Man May 2016 #28
Thank You! jpmonk91 May 2016 #29
I've got another H2O Man May 2016 #30
Exactly jpmonk91 May 2016 #32
Even evolution works in quantum jumps. Gregorian May 2016 #40
Thanks, Gregorian! H2O Man May 2016 #42
Grapes of Wrath countryjake May 2016 #41
Thanks, countryjake H2O Man May 2016 #43
As always... Liberal Jesus Freak May 2016 #45
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #46
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #50
Thanks, Uncle Joe H2O Man May 2016 #61
hope springs eternal MFM008 May 2016 #51
Incisive commentary, to be sure. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #52
Thank you H2O Man May 2016 #62
OK, I'll ask again PATRICK May 2016 #56
Interesting. H2O Man May 2016 #63
The Party establishment has stepped too far right JEB May 2016 #68
You forgot the other group of alleged democrats.. fun n serious May 2016 #57
That is two groups. H2O Man May 2016 #64
The group I am talking about is a unique fun n serious May 2016 #69
Where would you put President Obama in your "conservative", "moderate", "liberal", "progressive" Nye Bevan May 2016 #58
Right leaning moderate. It's Bernie's Bizarro World. nt LexVegas May 2016 #60
Fair question. H2O Man May 2016 #65
I have news for you Demsrule86 May 2016 #59
gosh H2O Man May 2016 #66
I always appreciate your respect for clarity G_j May 2016 #67
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