"Because no one in the state department, Bradley Manning, has ever compromised security" (Reply #140)

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Response to Whimsey (Reply #129)

Sat May 14, 2016, 09:57 PM

dana_b (11,546 posts)

140. "Because no one in the state department, Bradley Manning, has ever compromised security"

really? You use Chelsea Manning as your example? She's in prison!!! Maybe that's where Hillary should be? They could be cellmates and exchange ideas on National Security.

"Her history of trying to change the world is much more extensive than Bernie's, who primarily focused on his own path"

Again... really? "Change the world" - how? How has SHE changed the world? For the better? I don't think so.
Libya, Honduras, Iraq... not hte kind of changes that I want to see.

And no, he is not focusing "on his own path". He is doing all of this for us. He has no NEED to do this. He could retire onto his nice home in Vt. and play with his grandkids. But things have gotten so bad, and we progressives are not represented anymore, and so he decided to run for US. I am very thankful that he did. We haven't had a voice in politics for such a long time that we are amazed that someone like Bernie still exists.

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167 replies	Author	Time	Post
Hillary: "fused and fired by fever-ridden ambition and sense of pure entitlement. IT IS HER TURN" [View all]	imagine2015	May 2016	OP
Notice the quotes around something that only Clinton-Haters keep saying.	randome	May 2016	#1
that made me LOL	tk2kewl	May 2016	#10
Post removed	Post removed	May 2016	#58
LOL, another idiotic "clinton hater" comment which means "did not want hill as president"	Logical	May 2016	#64
Since you insist on there being 'sides' to this, why can't you stop talking about Clinton?	randome	May 2016	#123
Wait, there was a time when the BSers were interested in actual issues?	synergie	May 2016	#160
So I've heard. Now it's all about Clinton.	randome	May 2016	#165
These criticisms are grounded in sexism, pure and simple.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#2
+ 1	JoePhilly	May 2016	#3
Oh that's a old and worn out talking point.	imagine2015	May 2016	#7
If it were Bernie vs. Carly Fiorina, I wonder who would be the preferred candidate?	Armstead	May 2016	#16
No, sexism is as serious as racism.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#39
Think she'd be a good president?	Armstead	May 2016	#56
Strange question to ask on a democratic forum.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#67
There's ambition and there's ambition	Armstead	May 2016	#115
???	Fairgo	May 2016	#121
Not every woman is capable.....nor is every man.	apcalc	May 2016	#79
Its not worth arguing with those folks	Baobab	May 2016	#49
The gobbledegook is coming from the Sanders supporters.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#70
No, Hillary is lying about her agenda- And about the past agreements she is bound by	Baobab	May 2016	#73
i would say provide a link to this accusation.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#77
Of course she is ambitious.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#32
Ambitious? His quiet victories as legislator wouldn't have been quiet. You are used to status quo.	snowy owl	May 2016	#87
Perfectly stated.	pangaia	May 2016	#135
He is were not ambitious, he would not be running.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#151
I was surprised to read the other day that Iron Lady Margaret Thatcher did not want the Berlin Wall	Baobab	May 2016	#52
A lot of people feared a re-unified Germany in the heart of Europe for some reason.	BillZBubb	May 2016	#78
And Germany has become the leader of the EU. Merkel smarter than Thatcher by a country mile.	snowy owl	May 2016	#88
But how often are men who seek the presidency called out for their ambition?	mythology	May 2016	#104
Bullshit.	Fawke Em	May 2016	#8
Oh but it does.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#35
You are wrong, it doesn not. If Elizabeth Warren were running, I would be out door to door for her.	litlbilly	May 2016	#63
Your potential support of a Warren candidacy only proves that	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#71
What a load of horse pucky.	BillZBubb	May 2016	#80
How foolish are you! N/T	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#150
Idiocy - "man" gender neutral in this case. Rex did not mean gender-specific. Distraction.	snowy owl	May 2016	#89
Indeed. I would vote for Elizabeth Warren in a second. OTOH, Hillary is a bad choice- for many reaso	Baobab	May 2016	#84
There's ambition and there's ambition...and there is also cause and effect	Armstead	May 2016	#14
It absolutely does have something to do with it.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#38
of course . . . but not relevant to this article. You've taken it and made it a distraction.	snowy owl	May 2016	#90
.	corkhead	May 2016	#26
I'll tell you what's sexist	tularetom	May 2016	#28
Your comments merely reflect your total lack of awareness of this history of democratic candidates.	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#44
.....	notadmblnd	May 2016	#61
Can you show me where the argument you put forth...	NCTraveler	May 2016	#72
That "sexism" rejoinder is so tired and so rote.	bjo59	May 2016	#31
You think you are tired of it? Try living a lifetime with it.	apcalc	May 2016	#37
I have	pmorlan1	May 2016	#45
Denying it is sexism	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#51
don't bother	dana_b	May 2016	#66
Yes that is it. You don't even recognize it.	apcalc	May 2016	#81
LOL	pmorlan1	May 2016	#82
Maybe it's all you recognize? You are too wrapped up in a buzz word. Lazy. Try to look beyond...	snowy owl	May 2016	#99
If you've lived "lifetime" of it, then you have been using failed strategies. Look inward.	snowy owl	May 2016	#103
This message was self-deleted by its author	apcalc	May 2016	#33
But that's the problem, Bernie is not "ambition-filled" which is why he's been successful.	snowy owl	May 2016	#86
he's losing	uponit7771	May 2016	#157
Please stop making a mockery of feminism.	cui bono	May 2016	#147
This exactly same complain has been leveled against MANY male candidates.	basselope	May 2016	#152
Link and quote? tia	uponit7771	May 2016	#158
Google is your friend...	basselope	May 2016	#167
What a whiny article.	JoePhilly	May 2016	#4
An ambitious woman!!11	mcar	May 2016	#5
Bernie is not. Warren is not. Perhaps Merkley is not. HRC supporters used to corruption.	snowy owl	May 2016	#93
Bernie and Warren are not ambitious?	mcar	May 2016	#108
Its like they live on another fucking planet	uponit7771	May 2016	#159
Ambition was a problem for Richard Nixon. Men certainly face criticism for being overly ambitious	Rilgin	May 2016	#139
Link and quote? tia	uponit7771	May 2016	#161
Here you go, editorial discussing when ambition is too much using men	Rilgin	May 2016	#162
Then why is Hillary being extrapolated here vs the rest of people who did the same thing? Like	uponit7771	May 2016	#163
Not all ambitious people are ambitious to a fault	Rilgin	May 2016	#164
Unrec - for Must Stop that Woman fever syndrome. nt	BootinUp	May 2016	#6
Hillary has nothing in common with working class women of all races.	imagine2015	May 2016	#13
I suggest you seriously look at her voting record and history.	BootinUp	May 2016	#23
So you go to her customized website for bio? Whoa! That's brilliant!	snowy owl	May 2016	#100
She's an accomplished professional woman who has and IS working her ass off to get elected.	KittyWampus	May 2016	#9
Go Bernie	liberal from boston	May 2016	#62
Your comment proves the point that- the fact she is a woman has so far	notadmblnd	May 2016	#68
Former professor/amendment king/quiet victories? Clearly your worship idols. Easier than reading.	snowy owl	May 2016	#102
The turn argument is not sexist!	scscholar	May 2016	#128
Rex Murphy	radical noodle	May 2016	#11
This guy is a climate change denier and shill for Canada's oil industry.	sufrommich	May 2016	#12
Not so strange "bedfellows". The Clintons and rich Republican donors to Hillary's campaign.	imagine2015	May 2016	#18
Do you wonder why a shill for Canada's oil industry would offer	sufrommich	May 2016	#24
Get real. she is in bed with oil-they made her	larkrake	May 2016	#65
Ambition is one thing. Ambition so that you will do anything to serve it is another. I don't think	highprincipleswork	May 2016	#15
....! And, when your husband is a former President Campaiging for you...	KoKo	May 2016	#19
"Ambition should be made of sterner stuff."	NewImproved Deal	May 2016	#47
He may not have when he started this campaign, but his ego is getting bigger every day as is his	riversedge	May 2016	#54
His mandate has gotten bigger. We want him to represent us, even if some of you don't. Tell me,	highprincipleswork	May 2016	#96
Empty reply which says nothing. Ambition/ego - "stupid" (see john oliver)	snowy owl	May 2016	#105
So is your reply. bye	riversedge	May 2016	#106
People get paid for writing this tripe?	Starry Messenger	May 2016	#17
I take it you're backing a big time loser against Trump. Hillary Clinton.	imagine2015	May 2016	#20
The one beating her opponent like a rented mule? Yes, I am.	Starry Messenger	May 2016	#21
"beating like rented mule" - I don't use such comparisons. I've become kinder than that. Brutality	snowy owl	May 2016	#112
Beating him with one hand tied behind her back.	Starry Messenger	May 2016	#113
Much better. Thank you. We Sanders supporters are compassionate.	snowy owl	May 2016	#120
Uh-huh.	Starry Messenger	May 2016	#124
I take it that you're a big fan of right wing memes.	cali	May 2016	#27
You mean like right-wing corporatists funding Hillary? No I'm not.	imagine2015	May 2016	#36
I take it that poster is a big fan of hyperbole.	grasswire	May 2016	#48
This message was self-deleted by its author	snowy owl	May 2016	#111
Bernie is the loser by 3,000,000 votes. The people have spoken	redstateblues	May 2016	#34
How many primaries has Bernie won since the 3,000,000 came out and it has not changed?	-none	May 2016	#85
3,000,000 equals 1% of population. That's a big number - not.	snowy owl	May 2016	#109
It sounds like you are the one backing a loser.	Beacool	May 2016	#94
if you've seen better prose in Cosmo, you have little understanding of good writing	snowy owl	May 2016	#107
This article is an absolute dumpster fire of overly-ornamented prose.	Starry Messenger	May 2016	#110
Me thinks you doth protest too much.	snowy owl	May 2016	#114
No it ain't.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2016	#22
Right wing dog shit. Fuck that.	cali	May 2016	#25
"Slouching towards (Washington) to cry havoc let slip the dogs of war"	Depaysement	May 2016	#29
So, for the good of party unity, Clinton should withdraw?	The Second Stone	May 2016	#30
Does anyone disagree with this comment made by the articles writer? And if so, what?	imagine2015	May 2016	#40
And she has treated him with kid gloves......	apcalc	May 2016	#83
That's not a response to the comment I posted by the author	imagine2015	May 2016	#95
Ditto. Good catch, Imagine. Always a distraction instead of reply.	snowy owl	May 2016	#117
Is this not inconsistent with his statement way back that	Whimsey	May 2016	#141
Prince Charles thinks that too.	longship	May 2016	#41
To me, she's an opportunist. She's had little legislative experience. Same with Obama.	snowy owl	May 2016	#116
Yup! That's part of it.	longship	May 2016	#122
So Barack is her lacky also?	Whimsey	May 2016	#142
don't miss the comments section	grasswire	May 2016	#42
Lord save us...	NewImproved Deal	May 2016	#43
California dreamin'	Whimsey	May 2016	#46
wow, you got in a lot of talking points for a noob.	grasswire	May 2016	#50
Bernie has been handled with kid gloves. Only the Bern Squad denies it. nt	BootinUp	May 2016	#55
lol. Yeah, cause the Clinton camp has been holding back	TDale313	May 2016	#75
ok. lol.	BootinUp	May 2016	#76
Disagree	Whimsey	May 2016	#125
Campaign talking points repeated almost verbatim!	imagine2015	May 2016	#57
Really?	Whimsey	May 2016	#127
what about the transcripts? She is a hypocrite x 1000	dana_b	May 2016	#69
Still dreamin'	Whimsey	May 2016	#129
"Because no one in the state department, Bradley Manning, has ever compromised security"	dana_b	May 2016	#140
BS	Whimsey	May 2016	#143
omg - really?! This post is one for the books. YOU and your daughter have rights and knoe EVERYTHING	dana_b	May 2016	#144
I'm sorry	Whimsey	May 2016	#145
Brought to you by the Brock PPP initiative!	BillZBubb	May 2016	#91
Explain this to me	Whimsey	May 2016	#130
Someday we'll have a progressive/liberal woman running for President. It might be Elizabeth Warren.	imagine2015	May 2016	#53
No history	Whimsey	May 2016	#132
I love how there's supposedly no enthusiasm for the candidate who has received more votes than all	Metric System	May 2016	#59
It is more pathetic that such posts are allowed on this site. N/T	Big Blue Marble	May 2016	#74
And who do you think is going to Republican donors for money? Clue. It isn't Sanders	imagine2015	May 2016	#97
I actually think they are coming to her.	Whimsey	May 2016	#133
You deny he's become a rock start of sorts?Where are the 10s/1000s for HRC?Acceptance vs.Enthusiasm	snowy owl	May 2016	#118
Independents?	Whimsey	May 2016	#134
Independents, tea-party republicans, and progressive dems. He attracts them all. He's a rock star!	snowy owl	May 2016	#153
The liberal press? I can't imagine most Sanders supporters believe that.	Metric System	May 2016	#60
Utter rubbish.	Beacool	May 2016	#92
This article's sexist as hell.	Turin_C3PO	May 2016	#131
Well...	Whimsey	May 2016	#136
Thank you.	Beacool	May 2016	#138
Rex Murphy...	SidDithers	May 2016	#98
Hell yes, it is her turn because We the people have spoken making it her turn.	Thinkingabout	May 2016	#101
Nothing to do with turns/sexism. Sexism all you you got, you go with it. Better candidate=Sanders.	snowy owl	May 2016	#119
Besides being sexist, it's her turn because she EARNED MORE VOTES than BS did.	Lil Missy	May 2016	#126
and her time to LOSE AGAINST A LOSER.	pansypoo53219	May 2016	#137
HAHA THIS IS THE SADDEST BERNIEBRO TEMPER TANTRUM EVAH!!!	JaneyVee	May 2016	#146
So many capitals, so little sense.	Betty Karlson	May 2016	#149
She tends toward sensationalism. Little reason but big emotion. Idolatry and loyalty.	snowy owl	May 2016	#154
Ditch the GE disaster that feels entitled to happen, already!	Betty Karlson	May 2016	#148
Clinton will have to support centrist dems and centrist republicans to win 2020. Huge problem for us	snowy owl	May 2016	#155
With 70% of voters to her left. I'd say there is room for an alternative approach. eom	Betty Karlson	May 2016	#156
Clinton kicked ass. The winner.	seabeyond	May 2016	#166

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