2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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6. It's a hell of a lot more complex than that

Sun May 15, 2016, 01:49 PM

May 2016

It is not just some crazy radical fringe against the majority of Democrats, as you so lazily characterize it.

There are differing shades of opinion, paradoxes and degrees of emotional investment among the electorate.There are millions of people involved, and many variations among them.

For example, I personally know several people who basically say "I don't really like Clinton, and I agree with Bernie and his ideas. But I don't think he could get elected, so I have to support Clinton." Not exactly a rousing condemnation of Sanders or endorsement of Clinton.

That's just in my own circle. I suspect you can expand that out more widely.

The sooner this notion that this is a monolithic problem, the better.

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Saying "let it get worse" is immoral. [View all] CrowCityDem May 2016 OP

That is why I vote for Bernie PowerToThePeople May 2016 #1

Then vote for Sanders AgingAmerican May 2016 #2

It's up to you supporters of Hillary to get busy timmymoff May 2016 #3

I remember several times Aerows May 2016 #10

She's not at all interested in getting liberal votes. She's moving right, and her Dem supporters are vintx May 2016 #30

Same response Aerows May 2016 #4

If Hillary is the Dem candidate, I would love to see a lot of the South turn bluer..... bettyellen May 2016 #11

Flipping Georgia Aerows May 2016 #18

I keep telling people to think local too! I get so tired hearing of people pinning their hopes on bettyellen May 2016 #20

LOL! I didn't realize it until you said it! Aerows May 2016 #21

I'm imaging it in a cockney accent. Hee hee. bettyellen May 2016 #22

It is too late for that hack89 May 2016 #43

It's even more immoral to use this reasoning to keep things in stasis or slow decline whatchamacallit May 2016 #5

It's a hell of a lot more complex than that Armstead May 2016 #6

Let Clinton be the nominee and it WILL get worse eom LiberalElite May 2016 #7

That is the same BS argument the Third Way has used.. tokenlib May 2016 #8

Bernie is the candidate of privileged whites, woolldog May 2016 #9

Tell me about my privilege timmymoff May 2016 #12

Well that's a good way Aerows May 2016 #14

Having the luxury of being able to vote for someone because they want a woman President Sejon May 2016 #16

Does having our votes count, qualify as a privilege? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #19

Wrong. Being eager to support a Third Way New Dem is what requires privilege. vintx May 2016 #32

Better ideas? TCJ70 May 2016 #13

Change 'single payer' to 'expanded' or 'universal' health care... CrowCityDem May 2016 #15

"Expanded" to include... dchill May 2016 #31

JFK was right lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #17

+1 Go Vols May 2016 #25

So get out from behind the keyboard and get to work CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #36

I'm 3-out-of-five running for elective office. You? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #44

Running for office wasn't what your were intimating CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #46

Here on the internet it's all talk, and yes, roughly 30x as much of it as you, Corky. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #48

It is immoral to vote for an immoral candidate. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #23

The extreme left is no different than the extreme right. woolldog May 2016 #24

D's ain't what they used to be. Go Vols May 2016 #27

Everyone is the "extreme left" when compared to Hillary Sejon May 2016 #29

The conservative left is no different than the conservative right timmymoff May 2016 #33

I think they may be more loony than the far right CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #37

Don't worry. As you become a more conservative nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #26

Saying vote for corruption or else it is immoral... northernsouthern May 2016 #28

Let it get worse. dchill May 2016 #34

I'm not going to weigh in much either away until these Investigations libdem4life May 2016 #35

No, they haven't, but thanks for the LWolf May 2016 #38

There have absolutely been people... CrowCityDem May 2016 #39

Well, it might. LWolf May 2016 #40

You should've voted for Bernie. Broward May 2016 #41

It gets worse either way... basselope May 2016 #42

Saying amputate that gangrenous foot is immoral Vote2016 May 2016 #45

Tsk. Tsk. Poor Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #47