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2016 Postmortem

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seekthetruth

(504 posts)
7. I simply refuse.
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

To hold my nose and vote for Clinton. I simply cannot betray the earth and vote for someone who wishes to support those who rape the earth by drilling into it, poisoning it's waters, and increasing man-made warming.

I also cannot support a candidate with a history of supporting war over peaceful resolution of conflict.

I can't support someone who refuses to rule out the death penalty.

I can't support someone who takes contributions from the wealthy and corporate elite.

Trump or Clinton, they're parts of the same neoliberal machine that started cranking back in the 80s with Reagan's push to shrink government.

The Sound of Silence [View all] H2O Man May 2016 OP
The Democratic Establishment gave us Clinton. They own it. Skwmom May 2016 #1
I agree. H2O Man May 2016 #4
You break it you own it. Vincardog May 2016 #10
Yup. closeupready May 2016 #52
.+1 840high May 2016 #55
Yep. But they will still find the antiwar liberals as scape goats. eom PufPuf23 May 2016 #92
"Clinton would face a tough fight with Trump. Bernie would thrash Donald." beaglelover May 2016 #2
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #6
You cant speak with certainty of a future event adigal May 2016 #30
The Supers Have The Ball In Their Hands... CorporatistNation May 2016 #84
Hillary's been vetted by the american people timmymoff May 2016 #31
Oh no, socialism! mindwalker_i May 2016 #40
Pssst. Here's a movie suggestion i think you'll enjoy Armstead May 2016 #41
+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #80
while it's true that Trump can mount some strong attacks against HRC Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #85
And Hillary is one of the most beatable Dem candidates. BillZBubb May 2016 #130
unfortunately, yes Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #131
Well thought out response. KPN May 2016 #126
Thanks. I thought so too! beaglelover May 2016 #128
You are more than welcome! KPN May 2016 #129
This message was self-deleted by its author NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #3
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #5
I simply refuse. seekthetruth May 2016 #7
^This^ DebbieCDC May 2016 #8
Well said farleftlib May 2016 #89
Double this!!! Silver_Witch May 2016 #96
Why is it so difficult to get through?????? seekthetruth May 2016 #97
Exceptionally well said!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #101
A+ peace13 May 2016 #105
It's going downhill fast. Merryland May 2016 #9
Very good. H2O Man May 2016 #15
Agreed! seekthetruth May 2016 #61
You said that very well. I struggle writing what I believe. But I will try. We all need to rhett o rick May 2016 #75
I got banned from the history of feminism group fasttense May 2016 #82
Theynare not try feminists if they will not let their sister speak! Silver_Witch May 2016 #99
I have been cautious in sharing this same thought! Silver_Witch May 2016 #98
I know, I would love to have a woman president fasttense May 2016 #125
Keep fighting jpmonk91 May 2016 #11
Thanks, Buddy! H2O Man May 2016 #18
I do wish jpmonk91 May 2016 #24
He's an entertainer. H2O Man May 2016 #69
Great post pmorlan1 May 2016 #12
Someone posted the video "Chicago 1968" yesterday Merryland May 2016 #13
Saw that and actually remember that pmorlan1 May 2016 #14
Very well-said! H2O Man May 2016 #19
Kick Schema Thing May 2016 #16
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #21
A Great Post AND True Analysis Of What's Been Happening! ChiciB1 May 2016 #17
Right. H2O Man May 2016 #23
I remember reading a PD report: Sheepshank May 2016 #20
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #25
There's a very good autopsy of the Sanders campaign here BeyondGeography May 2016 #22
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #26
autoposy of the Undead. Hiraeth May 2016 #33
Agreed Dem2 May 2016 #54
The media is portraying this as a misunderstanding by Sanders folks...if they knew the rules, eastwestdem May 2016 #27
One of the very last H2O Man May 2016 #42
Great Post Ferd Berfel May 2016 #28
Thank you! H2O Man May 2016 #43
I'm amazed at the denial of Clinton supporters to the racism she and Bill participated in during 08 adigal May 2016 #29
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #44
may I link to this on twitter? dana_b May 2016 #32
Sure. H2O Man May 2016 #34
thank you! n/t dana_b May 2016 #35
The Clintonista Party /is/ the Inner Party of Oceania. VulgarPoet May 2016 #36
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #45
But but but... look what the Sanders people did!!!!111!!!!!elevens leeroysphitz May 2016 #37
Thank you! H2O Man May 2016 #46
I always enjoy your OPs, so thank you. sadoldgirl May 2016 #38
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #47
K&R kgnu_fan May 2016 #39
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #49
Hopefully we carry on with awakened heart. Never give up. kgnu_fan May 2016 #56
K&R! G_j May 2016 #48
Right. H2O Man May 2016 #50
well it's obvious for any of us who have been around, G_j May 2016 #58
Luckily I haven't seen any of those. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #124
You know I cover social movements nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #51
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #53
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #57
Thanks, Uncle Joe! H2O Man May 2016 #64
While the chair-throwing and screams of "bitch" at Sen. Boxer did not enhance the discourse, Nye Bevan May 2016 #59
Thanks H2O Man May 2016 #65
Chair up, chair down, hugs, no throw. Snarkoleptic May 2016 #88
They are collectively looking at the wrong chair for what they want to see mrdmk May 2016 #127
K&R Carolina May 2016 #60
Thank you! H2O Man May 2016 #66
The DNC Will Ride Their Corrupt Gravy Train ... Right Off A Cliff. Can't Say They Weren't Warned... AzDar May 2016 #62
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #67
"Thus, it is the responsibility of the “average” citizen who supports Hillary Clinton to speak up." Martin Eden May 2016 #63
Right. H2O Man May 2016 #68
It will be more up to the nominee to unite the party than the losing candidate. It's only fair. ancianita May 2016 #70
Right. H2O Man May 2016 #72
Thank you! Tuesday_Morning May 2016 #71
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #73
Strong arm tactics during emotional campaigns will almost mmonk May 2016 #74
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #76
And I see the entitlement of Sanders and his supporters. Funny that. seabeyond May 2016 #77
Thanks. H2O Man May 2016 #78
I think that idea that you hold about a Sander Supporter is probably glowing May 2016 #81
When you argue.... "As soon as you say" then make up shit, you fail. seabeyond May 2016 #91
I think calling me a failure is pretty low. I won't alert glowing May 2016 #93
Again, I didn't call you a failure. I called your argument a failure. I won't bother reading further seabeyond May 2016 #94
The Clinton campaign and supporters have done nothing to bring in voters who lean democratic or ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #79
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #111
"Obviously, the establishment has an agenda that does not respect the will of the voters." Scuba May 2016 #83
This, is exactly what has happened and why I left and became unaffiliated. RKP5637 May 2016 #103
Very good! H2O Man May 2016 #112
Recommended me b zola May 2016 #86
In my opinion, H2O Man May 2016 #113
"Usually when people are sad, they don't do anything. They just cry over their condition. But... Bonobo May 2016 #87
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #114
The winner in the general election will Progressive dog May 2016 #90
What you're asserting chervilant May 2016 #106
I'm not sure you think Progressive dog May 2016 #132
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #115
Standing ovation!! Silver_Witch May 2016 #95
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #116
There is little likelihood chervilant May 2016 #100
I agree. H2O Man May 2016 #117
I trust and value your opinion, thank you for once again weighing in.... AuntPatsy May 2016 #102
Oh, thanks, AuntPatsy! H2O Man May 2016 #118
Exceptionally well said! If the DNC/DLC/3rd-Way/DWS/HRC continue the RKP5637 May 2016 #104
I absolutely agree! H2O Man May 2016 #119
Awesome post! Thank you! Seeinghope May 2016 #107
Thank you, Seeinghope! H2O Man May 2016 #120
"classic enablers" That says it all about the OP. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #108
Thanks H2O Man May 2016 #121
Thank you, as always. Your essays are one of the very few reasons I return here. myrna minx May 2016 #109
Thanks, Buddy! H2O Man May 2016 #122
Kicked & R'd John Poet May 2016 #110
Solid point. H2O Man May 2016 #123
Clinton is winning the primary, and will win the nomination, fair and square, with ZERO evidence of geek tragedy May 2016 #133
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