2016 Postmortem

wallyworld2

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107. Hillary explains why she stays in

Thu May 19, 2016, 05:39 PM

May 2016

And Hillary supporters fry him for doing the very same thing

Except for the part where she loans her campaign money.

He doesn't have her kind of cash.

And Goldman Sachs wasn't willing to hear him speak for $250k to help him out.

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Will Bernie be as hated by progressives as Nader [View all] arely staircase May 2016 OP

I think even more so. redstatebluegirl May 2016 #1

Highly possible workinclasszero May 2016 #136

I think at this point it's inevitable Sheepshank May 2016 #2

People who ignore 40 percent of primary voters are fools Armstead May 2016 #138

He's certainly giving it the old college try ... nt salinsky May 2016 #3

No because only fools will blame a Hillary loss on Bernie. BillZBubb May 2016 #4

Right but there seem to be a lot of fools around. elleng May 2016 #83

Hillary explains why she stays in wallyworld2 May 2016 #107

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^^^ Also, it was Dems voting Republican that caused issues Kittycat May 2016 #114

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I still think Bernie will fall in line, as will most of his supporters. nt LexVegas May 2016 #6

Thats such a gross thing to say. liberalnarb May 2016 #79

Posts like this one show the very attitude from rateyes May 2016 #132

Huh? whatthehey May 2016 #7

At this point his campaign has no reason to exist other than to help Trump. NT arely staircase May 2016 #14

To claim that Bernie's running for the express purpose of seeing Donald Trump elected is asinine. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #33

It is the only effect he can have now. arely staircase May 2016 #38

That's silly. morningfog May 2016 #44

No. It is fuckef up. nt arely staircase May 2016 #47

If you are referring to your premise, I agree. morningfog May 2016 #54

Your claim is that his INTENT is to see Donald Trump elected. Asinine. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #58

More like he doesn't give a shit. arely staircase May 2016 #59

"...no reason to exist other than to help Trump." Own it. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #61

poorly worded. arely staircase May 2016 #63

That may not be his intent, apcalc May 2016 #89

Disagree there whatthehey May 2016 #48

K & R! Good argument. Thank you. ancianita May 2016 #69

What a reasoned and thoughtful response to an otherwise turd of an op. kayakjohnny May 2016 #108

So you are the decider on how long someone can run for President? Perogie May 2016 #68

Nope. Just a lifelong Democrat that wants to beat the GOP. Nt arely staircase May 2016 #71

One has nothing to do with the other. Perogie May 2016 #73

REALLY?? liberalnarb May 2016 #84

Potentially more so because of the boorish behavior of his supporters DrDan May 2016 #8

Yeah. His campaign has a lot in common with Trump's? nt arely staircase May 2016 #10

Of the 3 presidential candidates still running, Bernie, Hillary and Donald, Bernie is the Cal33 May 2016 #9

Is that what you're hoping for? tularetom May 2016 #11

No I am a very happy big man. arely staircase May 2016 #17

Progressives don't hate Nader Ash_F May 2016 #12

Like Nader he has pissed away a career of good work for his ego.nt arely staircase May 2016 #20

Haha no Ash_F May 2016 #29

Oh shit, they're bringing Corvair back because Nader ran for President? COOL! I loved the Monzas. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #35

And he used to be a progressive hero. arely staircase May 2016 #51

Last time I checked, Bernie is running as a Democrat, not third party. liberalnarb May 2016 #90

I was going to say the same thing. Some Democrats probably hate Nader, some progressives too... Bread and Circus May 2016 #21

Only By People pmorlan1 May 2016 #13

Only by the Right Wing Ferd Berfel May 2016 #15

^^ Thread winner! GreatGazoo May 2016 #23

Lol. Is this silly day for hilly fans? cali May 2016 #16

The reason progressives don't like Bernie is the fact he is helping Trump. NT arely staircase May 2016 #30

You don't speak for progressives, dear. cali May 2016 #32

Bernie derangement Syndrome aikoaiko May 2016 #111

For reals. frylock May 2016 #121

I dare you to scream Nader at me. Aerows May 2016 #18

Bookmarked for later ridicule. nt arely staircase May 2016 #24

Same. n/t Aerows May 2016 #28

No, but neoliberals will hate him. JRLeft May 2016 #19

Only by centrists that hate progressives to start with. libtodeath May 2016 #22

New even worst and funnier talking points out? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #25

If he doesn't endorse Clinton AND she loses the nomination taught_me_patience May 2016 #26

I don't hate Nader nor will I hate Sanders. I see no reason to hate people who are progressives. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #27

Yeah and you are always representative of progressives and Democrats arely staircase May 2016 #31

Bwahaha, arely. Cognitive dissonance writ large. cali May 2016 #34

Well, I'm 72 years old and have probably voted for more Demcrats than most people. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #41

Seriously. Have you ever voted for Democrat? arely staircase May 2016 #42

Yes, many times. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #53

You voted for Ralph Nader?! After he put Bush in the WH? arely staircase May 2016 #55

I didn't vote agains the Dems. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #64

Yes you supported people running against the Dems. arely staircase May 2016 #67

Nader didn't put Bush in the goddamn White House Art_from_Ark May 2016 #128

Clearly you are always representative of progressives and Democrats. frylock May 2016 #122

Well, not yet. auntpurl May 2016 #36

I'm a progressive. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #37

The OP blatantly ignores the fact that Nader always ran Third Party and Bernie is a Democrat. liberalnarb May 2016 #91

I didn't want to bring that up. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #93

I would. liberalnarb May 2016 #96

I don't see it going down that way. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #99

If He and his Sometimes Democratic Voters Blow the Chance to Control the SCOTUS Stallion May 2016 #39

Yep. nt arely staircase May 2016 #57

Wrong again. Amaril May 2016 #72

Well Then I'll Blame You and "Democrats" Just Like You that Fail to Support Clinton Stallion May 2016 #74

Yeah, good luck with that Amaril May 2016 #75

I'm Voting for Clinton So it will be Impossible for me to Negatively Affect her Chances Stallion May 2016 #77

And you have no idea who I plan to vote for in the GE Amaril May 2016 #85

Eventually. Now they are too wrapped up in his 'movement'. History will re-write the whole eastwestdem May 2016 #40

you mean Hillary's campaign is attempting rewrite what happened in Bush-Gore 2000? azurnoir May 2016 #45

1) you're not a progressive; 2) I am; 3) I never hated him; 4) closeupready May 2016 #43

Progressives hate Nader. Anyone still defending that POS isn't a progressive. arely staircase May 2016 #46

Bullshit ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #50

Oh, and Gore lost his own state, Tennessee. lol closeupready May 2016 #66

if someone is going to be tormented on hell for the iraq war PaulaFarrell May 2016 #101

She has admitted it was a mistake. arely staircase May 2016 #118

he wasn't complicit PaulaFarrell May 2016 #123

You 3rd way idiots frustrated_lefty May 2016 #127

Real progressives don't hate Nader, and they love Bernie. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #49

Wrong arely staircase May 2016 #52

You know that I'm not wrong ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #92

If you are refering to the 2000 election Perogie May 2016 #56

Hillary Clinton stayed in through the last primary in 2008. Eric J in MN May 2016 #60

And I was pissed at her for it at the time. NT arely staircase May 2016 #62

Knowing today that Obama beat McCain Eric J in MN May 2016 #65

When the nomination is a mathematic impossibility for a candidate arely staircase May 2016 #70

Even counting Super Delegates (who can change their minds) Eric J in MN May 2016 #76

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #78

no he won't PaulaFarrell May 2016 #105

Hillary is going to destroy Trump in November so the BS dream of The Second Stone May 2016 #80

I don't know if I even like the term any longer, I don't think he's a progressive at all... The way uponit7771 May 2016 #81

Still an open question... Mike Nelson May 2016 #82

If his supporters help elect Trump apcalc May 2016 #86

His supporters won't elect Trump. KPN May 2016 #106

Gore did not lose the 2000 election, so why would anyone blame Nader? guillaumeb May 2016 #87

He's the only candidate who isn't putting himself ahead of the people. liberalnarb May 2016 #88

Sanders and Nader have a great deal in common Gothmog May 2016 #94

Bernie is putting his country ahead of any ego trip. Skwmom May 2016 #95

+1 KPN May 2016 #104

Progressives don't hate Nader. Corporatists do. Skwmom May 2016 #97

Hated for what? Entering a primary and trying to win the nomination. It's called Democracy. Nanjeanne May 2016 #98

Bernie has received 9,957,889 votes so far. Ralph Nader recieved 465,642 in 2000. CentralMass May 2016 #100

Dumb question. KPN May 2016 #102

No but Hillary will be. hobbit709 May 2016 #103

Yes, her attitude and distain for the people and the issues will last a lifetime. peace13 May 2016 #109

Progressives don't hate Nader. Center left, establishment types do. aikoaiko May 2016 #110

He won't be hated by progressives at all. kayakjohnny May 2016 #112

So you too now forget that Al Gore won in 2000? Rex May 2016 #113

Bernie is the self styled voice of the doomed. Nader sided with no one and nothing. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #116

I voted Gore in 2000, I don't hate Nader. I voted Sanders Tuesday and clearly don't hate him at all. TheKentuckian May 2016 #117

^That^ Amaril May 2016 #119

It could never be progressive for Bernie to get out before California Ken Burch May 2016 #120

Progressives don'r care a fig about Nader, never did. bemildred May 2016 #124

I think you Hillarybots lay false claim to the pregressive label. frustrated_lefty May 2016 #125

No, But I suspect he will draw ire from people like you. Bonobo May 2016 #126

Bernie is as loved as ever by those who hold Progressive values. Not so much by the rest. highprincipleswork May 2016 #129

No, the Dem party will suffer as being for the elite and against the people ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #130

Bernie doesn't have much ego. He has values, principles, and concerns. senz May 2016 #131

Will Democrats LWolf May 2016 #133

People said this a month ago, and somehow democrats just gave him a lanslide win. pinskinny May 2016 #134

No. kcr May 2016 #135

He is not Nader -- You are talking apples and oranges Armstead May 2016 #137