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pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
16. Public Deserves the Truth
Tue May 24, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016
Another argument being surfaced, in a transparent attempt to defend Secretary Clinton, has to do with intent. It is said that she did not intend to have classified information on her computer in New York and had no intention of handling secret material in a way that would be accessible to foreign intelligence or others lacking the proper security clearances and the need-to-know.

But while intent might be relevant in terms of punishment, it does not change the fact that as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, then Senator Clinton had clearances for classified information for years before becoming Secretary of State. She knew the rules and yet as Secretary she handled classified information carelessly after a deliberate decision to circumvent normal procedures for its safeguarding, thus making it vulnerable to foreign intelligence, as well as to criminal hackers.

Anyone who has ever handled classified material knows that there are a number of things that you do not do. You do not take it home with you, you do not copy it and share it with anyone who does not have a clearance and a need-to-know, you do not strip off the classification marks and treat it as unclassified, and you do not transfer it to another email account that is not protected by a government server.


I hope we hear from the FBI and Justice Dept. very soon. It's not just Sec. Clinton's reputation on the line here but their reputation as well.
a bit more from another section grasswire May 2016 #1
very interesting comments section there grasswire May 2016 #2
They can't release it until after Bernie drops out Fumesucker May 2016 #3
interesting, yes grasswire May 2016 #4
and all the promises HRC made to people who expect something... grasswire May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Cal33 May 2016 #42
The mega-donors & string-pullers want the future deals they paid her for. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #12
That's exactly why Bernie needs to stay in as long as possible. highprincipleswork May 2016 #6
+1000. nt antigop May 2016 #33
Yup. K&R nt riderinthestorm May 2016 #21
Exactly. They'd rather lose to Trump n/t arcane1 May 2016 #36
trump won't touch the richs' money. they are safe with him as well as h. wendylaroux May 2016 #53
Clinton will pull their wagon. Trump is willing to pose for the cameras and not make real waves. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #49
This should go a long way to answering Clinton supporters questions about why this is a big deal. Kentonio May 2016 #7
Larry Johnson's in that list - was an HRC supporter in 2008 Cooley Hurd May 2016 #10
Probably has something to do with her terrible job at State. frylock May 2016 #66
It's hard to believe that Obama desires the disaster that a Clinton presidency... Peace Patriot May 2016 #8
I really believe that the FBI is taking its time so when they finally come to their decision, Karma13612 May 2016 #9
That may be true, but the intel professionals who signed this memo are pointing to... Peace Patriot May 2016 #32
It seems that whenever she faces a "hard choice" she makes the wrong choice n/t arcane1 May 2016 #40
But hey, she's tough! CrispyQ May 2016 #77
Very well thought out. And I agree with your analysis. Karma13612 May 2016 #72
I thought that too, but these professionals are saying the FBI should have enough for pdsimdars May 2016 #52
I feel your frustration. Things are getting very interesting and Karma13612 May 2016 #74
This is the big story today -- a real wake up call. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #11
She'll privatize the entire Executive Branch if she wins. arcane1 May 2016 #39
Interesting that the word starts with an "f", like another word that rhymes with yuck. pdsimdars May 2016 #55
What sinister back-room deals are in motion: Only the Shadow knows! yourpaljoey May 2016 #13
Wow, that would make great song lyrics. lagomorph777 May 2016 #22
Another reality show with Geraldo Rivera, "opening Hillary Clinton's private server" pdsimdars May 2016 #56
notice something this morning here, kids? grasswire May 2016 #14
328 page views and 14 replies. grasswire May 2016 #15
They are waiting for instructions from Brock. lagomorph777 May 2016 #23
Public Deserves the Truth pmorlan1 May 2016 #16
I'll take post title doesn't match body for $400 nt firebrand80 May 2016 #17
?? lagomorph777 May 2016 #24
Yes. Get it the fuck over with. n/t Orsino May 2016 #18
Dear diary: Day 175 of the Big, Most Urgent Email Clinton Scandal. randome May 2016 #19
Yes, there you go. lagomorph777 May 2016 #26
Or you can whisper 'Benghazi' into the mirror for an hour straight. randome May 2016 #31
I would prefer no indictment; it would damage an already nearly hopeless candidate. lagomorph777 May 2016 #35
As long as you ignore the fact that veteran members from the intelligence community think May 2016 #34
. JudyM May 2016 #43
. randome May 2016 #47
. JudyM May 2016 #48
Ensure that the laws are faithfully executed pmorlan1 May 2016 #20
I have been annoyed with Obama like they seem to be, that he has come out a couple of pdsimdars May 2016 #58
Me too pmorlan1 May 2016 #60
k&r, nt appal_jack May 2016 #25
kick J_J_ May 2016 #27
The President himself has correctly stayed out of this - leaving it to the FBI and then DOJ karynnj May 2016 #28
I wish he WOULD have stayed out of it but he HASN'T. pdsimdars May 2016 #59
I know the two times that you are referring to - and I agree he should not have gone even that far karynnj May 2016 #62
There is something else, though, that doesn't make sense. pdsimdars May 2016 #69
The whole Obama/Clintons relationship is weird and complicated karynnj May 2016 #71
There had to have been a deal made. Nothing else makes sense. Kentonio May 2016 #76
I think she got SoS was because they made a deal that she would help him win the election pdsimdars May 2016 #78
I think it's safe to assume most politicians in both parties have lots of secrets Kentonio May 2016 #79
K & R AzDar May 2016 #29
K&R think May 2016 #30
K & R DiehardLiberal May 2016 #37
if she gets by with this, then anyone can do what she did antigop May 2016 #38
There is a Coleen Rowley who posted in the comments section. nt antigop May 2016 #41
! grasswire May 2016 #46
Felony language: JudyM May 2016 #44
They could've added: History will not look favorably on your putting party over your oath- which is JudyM May 2016 #45
Every credible person who I have seen comment on it has said something very similar. pdsimdars May 2016 #50
Kickin' truebluegreen May 2016 #51
Truth. yolla331 May 2016 #54
K&R LiberalArkie May 2016 #57
I have a sinking feeling things are going to come to pass DVRacer May 2016 #61
K & R! TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #63
K & R bkkyosemite May 2016 #64
kick nt antigop May 2016 #65
Into time line it goes nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #67
Dear Penthouse ... last night the indictment fairy knocked on my door ... JoePhilly May 2016 #68
. JudyM May 2016 #70
Vast right wing conspiracy! Bob41213 May 2016 #73
knr frylock May 2016 #75
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