2016 Postmortem

cherokeeprogressive

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7. Why would MSNBC or any other network feel the NEED to announce the results before voting ends?

Reply to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 10:05 PM

May 2016

That just seems strange to me. Doing it for the "scoop" isn't valid in my opinion because they'll be describing and event that hasn't even happened yet since voting is still taking place. I think that makes the word "scoop" moot. How can you scoop something before it's even happened?

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MSNBC admits: "We'll SUPPRESS VOTING to help CLINTON on June 7th" | Bernie Sanders [View all] leftcoastmountains May 2016 OP

One word: Bullshit. Trust Buster May 2016 #1

why would June 7th be any different than what the MSM has done EVERY day of this primary ? GreatGazoo May 2016 #170

They just can't wait for president Trump. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #2

Pathetic pmorlan1 May 2016 #3

The CORPORATISTS ARE TRULY IN CHARGE! IT'S CALLED FASCISM! PATHETIC TURN FOR AMERICA! CorporatistNation May 2016 #9

We've known all along where MSNBC stood. (Note how they captioned him.) merrily May 2016 #4

And Comcast co-hosting the national convention... Remember dystopian movies like Bladerunner? bjo59 May 2016 #131

Hey, the MSM hosted the entire primary process. delrem May 2016 #165

And by "suppress voting" you mean "announce facts"? brooklynite May 2016 #5

So you believe people will be motivated to the polls even though they hear it's not necessary. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #11

You've seen those yuge Bernie rallies WhiteTara May 2016 #20

To be fair, they aren't showing up for Sanders now either mythology May 2016 #46

who's not showing up? the 20K at his Irvine, Ca rally? or this: amborin May 2016 #97

Don't Distort The Figures SoCalMusicLover May 2016 #153

Once again, its the showing up to vote that counts... brooklynite May 2016 #173

I believe the people will already be on line and won't hear the announcement... brooklynite May 2016 #77

Here is this thing called a phone nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #88

Ok third person I will never again beiieve when you spout GOTV nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #15

This right here tazkcmo May 2016 #84

Anything including cheating to get your person the nomination..yes cheating. If the MSM bkkyosemite May 2016 #28

Bingo workinclasszero May 2016 #79

The fact is that the super delegates do not vote until the convention me b zola May 2016 #155

Since "the facts" are already being announced by our friend Chris, delrem May 2016 #168

Not to help Clinton... Mike Nelson May 2016 #6

But it affects down ballot initiatives nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #75

Hillary will not have the delegates before the convention. senz May 2016 #162

Get the word out that they are going to do this and explain jwirr May 2016 #192

Why would MSNBC or any other network feel the NEED to announce the results before voting ends? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #7

They don't announce results before voting ends oberliner May 2016 #12

It is called the BANDWAGON EFFECT nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #22

It's not a stretch many will go to the polls after work! It's wrong! bkkyosemite May 2016 #31

Then they probably won't be watching TV oberliner May 2016 #40

Look for your phone nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #45

The results will be available whether CNN does a special about them or not oberliner May 2016 #49

Here you go nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #52

Smart phones...yes... bkkyosemite May 2016 #105

Smart phones don't provide you with election news against your will oberliner May 2016 #107

The average person looks at his or her phone 46 times every day. progressoid May 2016 #185

But if you specifically want to vote without knowing what happened in NJ oberliner May 2016 #186

Same reason they took the unprecedented step of counting superdelegate votes so early this time vintx May 2016 #13

C'MON... TO SKEW THE RESULTS... DECREASE THE IMPETUS FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE! CorporatistNation May 2016 #14

Your computer seems to be broken - it's stuck on Cap Lock all the time. COLGATE4 May 2016 #117

Ratings: which ever network promises to announce first gets the viewers Retrograde May 2016 #62

You mean 1980 nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #66

Yeah, senior moment Retrograde May 2016 #140

And is a perfect example of what I am pointing out with this point nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #141

It's not about the vote in California, it's called announcing the primary is over & she is the jillan May 2016 #111

This OP is a lie oberliner May 2016 #8

Way too many OPs here are lies Dem2 May 2016 #36

Jury Results JimDandy May 2016 #74

So they will manufacture news nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #10

No they won't oberliner May 2016 #16

YOu realize that we go over this shit every four years right? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #17

West Coast voters are not morons oberliner May 2016 #18

WHOOSH nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #21

OK oberliner May 2016 #23

That would be ideal. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #27

That would best, and that goes for November as well nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #29

And here is one of those nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #35

Wow oberliner, Eko May 2016 #42

It's very bizarre oberliner May 2016 #47

Sigh..... SusanCalvin May 2016 #51

Sure it is. Eko May 2016 #61

Good grief. SusanCalvin May 2016 #68

Only one group Eko May 2016 #71

True if you carry it that far. SusanCalvin May 2016 #171

Here you go, this is not new nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #56

. SusanCalvin May 2016 #26

Rain "depresses" the vote. I guess that's a conspiracy too. Hoyt May 2016 #34

As usual I expect you to laugh at actual statistical analysis nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #37

So you think news should be surpressed? Hoyt May 2016 #43

We go though this same shitty discussion every four years nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #48

Don't care what it's called, should news be surpressed who/whomever it favors? Hoyt May 2016 #50

It is not supressing anything to hold off until it will not affect nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #53

Waiting until all polls are closed is not suppressing. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #54

What if I knew something very damaging about a candidate Eko May 2016 #119

Given US History... when at tmes took WEEKS for votes to be known nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #124

You do realize it would get out anyways right? Eko May 2016 #126

Germany has dealt with this by making those leaks a federal crime nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #129

That would go over real well. Eko May 2016 #135

Hey little brother I got that ilegally nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #142

If I was the one counting them. Eko May 2016 #144

Ok you want to risk time in the pokey, go for it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #146

Personally? Eko May 2016 #148

Yes, you and people like you nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #149

LOL HarmonyRockets May 2016 #161

Of course that wouldn't be OK. SusanCalvin May 2016 #172

I thought you were a journalist...... kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #127

I am nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #128

Statistical analysis shows that voter turnout is generally lower when the weather is bad oberliner May 2016 #44

So true, not to mention folks could vote early, even by mail. I'm never standing Hoyt May 2016 #58

Oh poor you, but in CA those who stand at the polls tend to be the working poor nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #64

Peace. Hoyt May 2016 #78

We currently have no control over the weather. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #63

We currently have no control over the rain. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #60

Or the news, or we shouldn't. Hoyt May 2016 #177

You call asking that results not be reported until all polls are closed "control"? SusanCalvin May 2016 #187

I can assure you that the MSM puts up what people want to hear. That's the way they make money. Hoyt May 2016 #189

This is sort of true. SusanCalvin May 2016 #190

If your point is legitimate, why lie about it? Corporate666 May 2016 #19

Some are so hooked on rage endorphins that they're self-medicating. LuvLoogie May 2016 #30

Reporting facts is voter suppression?? Gothmog May 2016 #24

Seven person I will laugh when they go GOTV nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #39

Bernie says he's in until the convention, so no big deal. How oasis May 2016 #25

You know you sound like very republican posters on AOL message boards circa 2001 nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #32

At least you know I'm not paid to recruit in this joint. oasis May 2016 #112

I am just pointing that you do sound that way nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #114

If by "conservadem" you mean "Democrats dedicated to saving oasis May 2016 #118

Nope CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRAT nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #120

Most on this site used to be firmly against the continuing slide to the right vintx May 2016 #178

If by not fully embracing Che and Hugo Chavez signals a DU slide oasis May 2016 #183

Thanks for the demonstration nt vintx May 2016 #184

God forbid they should report things. Eko May 2016 #33

Sixth person I will laugh when they go over how important it is to do GOTV nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #38

I understand where you are coming from. Eko May 2016 #55

Yes, because if they do not, like it does every fucking four years nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #57

I see what you are saying Eko May 2016 #67

IMO, when states on the east and west coast are concerned nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #69

Really really really Eko May 2016 #76

Yes, really and hearings are held in Congress every so often nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #81

Tell you what, Eko May 2016 #87

Tell you what, I am going to propose to my US Congressman that he introduces nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #89

Cool, Eko May 2016 #93

Poor, poor you, you will need to lock out every time zone nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #95

Easier to block off one state Eko May 2016 #99

You are missing this, and you are an enemy of democracy by the way, nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #102

an enemy of democracy? Eko May 2016 #109

Anybody who wants to suppress turnout is nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #113

Care to show me where Eko May 2016 #116

You want that released when precints are still open nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #122

You cant just Eko May 2016 #125

Again, why should CA, the 8th largest economy, do that to pelase the East Cosast nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #132

Why should the worlds largest economy Eko May 2016 #134

What the fuck are you talking about? YOU can't wait for three hours and prevent a real world nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #143

So why not just Eko May 2016 #145

To please you? Why should we do that? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #147

So changing the states election Eko May 2016 #121

Why would CA want to change it's traditional June election to suit you? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #123

To fix a problem you are having. Eko May 2016 #150

Alas we also have it every four years during the General Eleciton nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #151

Its been fun, but its over. Eko May 2016 #152

Oh please do put me on ignore nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #154

No, I cant do that. Eko May 2016 #159

Announcing that HRC has won should she get New Jersey is the voter suppression tactic d_legendary1 May 2016 #41

Yep. SusanCalvin May 2016 #59

This is not about NJ or CA it's about announcing the primaries are over, Hill is the nominee. jillan May 2016 #115

Exactly my point! d_legendary1 May 2016 #174

Damn, just every one picking on Sanders right? seabeyond May 2016 #65

This is much older than Sanders and you are person number eight that I will laugh nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #72

Lordy Nadin, starting another list? seabeyond May 2016 #80

If you are an enemy of democracy you are not a friend of mine nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #83

Regardless of your enemy of whatever, no, we aren't friends. seabeyond May 2016 #90

Good, nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #91

Every network will. About half of the logical fallacies that exist are violated in this silly thread Dem2 May 2016 #70

Really? tell that to Jimmy Carter nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #73

I waited patiently for your silly post. You didn't read my post and now you look silly. Dem2 May 2016 #85

Whatever, I did read it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #86

The media can't withhold football scores anymore oberliner May 2016 #92

They could, BY LAW do that for elections nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #94

same exact thing is done in criminal investigations too.. lakeguy May 2016 #181

I know, I know nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #182

Like MSNBC can afford to alienate viewers even further ... how foolish is this. pacalo May 2016 #82

Hillary is 633 Pledged Delegates SHORT of being the nominee. Why would they do this? jillan May 2016 #96

All these fools are adding the supers nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #98

How do we combat this, that is the question? This is interfering with Democracy. jillan May 2016 #101

People have been trying since at least the Reagan election nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #103

I think our only chance is to contact DWS, seriously. jillan May 2016 #108

I am to the point that I do not care what happens nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #110

fascist M$M, and in the case of MSNBC/Comcast, headed by a HRC donor amborin May 2016 #100

This goes back to 1980 nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #104

This East Coaster PATRICK May 2016 #163

I have no choice, working media nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #175

If you count it that way creeksneakers2 May 2016 #130

Process, neither will reach PDs nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #133

I admire your constitution vintx May 2016 #179

Hillary has 1771 pledged delegates. She needs 255 to clinch the majority of pledged delegates. LuvLoogie May 2016 #136

She needs 633 pledged delegates to cinch the nomination. AP showing her with 1750 jillan May 2016 #139

^^^ POST OF THE DAY ^^^ Jack Bone May 2016 #156

Sure, if straw men are your thing. nt stevenleser May 2016 #169

You know you're not responding to that persons contention and making up your own, right? stevenleser May 2016 #164

DEM nominee must have at least 2383 delegates underthematrix May 2016 #157

I love how that person didn't respond to your actual point. stevenleser May 2016 #167

That's okay. Maybe I forgot to add anti-Hillary Dark Matter Delegates. LuvLoogie May 2016 #188

K & R AzDar May 2016 #106

K&R nt silvershadow May 2016 #137

Lie. JoePhilly May 2016 #138

LOL. What happens when WE decide the race, as we have for the last year? Will that have any effect? mhatrw May 2016 #158

At what minute mark does 'MSNBC admit' lovemydog May 2016 #160

Is this the Weaver provided spin of the week? All of a sudden with multiple primaries stevenleser May 2016 #166

You know something, you're correct Dem2 May 2016 #191

Bernie supporters again collecting grievances regarding the process underthematrix May 2016 #176

Man, June 7 is going to be funner than I thought nt firebrand80 May 2016 #180

This thread is propaganda and not true at all - if anything Weaver is sleazing on the rules Dem2 May 2016 #193