In 1776, that poster would be telling us to remain loyal to the British Crown. (Reply #252)

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Wed May 25, 2016, 01:04 PM

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252. In 1776, that poster would be telling us to remain loyal to the British Crown.

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America is a centrist, capitalist country. We are not and will never be socialist. [View all]	ericson00	May 2016	OP
Ugh	One Black Sheep	May 2016	#1
"Inaccurate Psychic Authoritarians for Hillary"	GreatGazoo	May 2016	#14
^ This	JRLeft	May 2016	#19
I call them the 'I've got mine, fuck everybody else' wing of the party...	Yurovsky	May 2016	#48
I call them "Misplaced Republicans."	QC	May 2016	#139
That would explain the shift in voter registrations & party identification	Yurovsky	May 2016	#162
QC—They already have.	CobaltBlue	May 2016	#216
+1	vintx	May 2016	#244
+5 nt.	villager	May 2016	#103
!	QC	May 2016	#135
this ^ + 100	Attorney in Texas	May 2016	#215
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ronald Reagan, to name a few have said the same thing.	Exilednight	May 2016	#2
Do you even see the irony	leftynyc	May 2016	#10
I see irony in the fact that a person named lefty is defending right wing talking points	Exilednight	May 2016	#12
Been noticing that myself.	tenderfoot	May 2016	#93
You're not the first to catch that irony.	QC	May 2016	#121
Yeah, you caught me	leftynyc	May 2016	#192
Where EXACTLY am	leftynyc	May 2016	#175
Yes! It's the right wing mindset. Totally wrong, too.	trudyco	May 2016	#245
Your post is the fucking irony.	Phlem	May 2016	#164
What on earth are	leftynyc	May 2016	#178
Sure you do.	Phlem	May 2016	#195
So you quite simply lied	leftynyc	May 2016	#196
Really?	Phlem	May 2016	#197
Oh the fucking crickets yet again.	Phlem	May 2016	#198
You'll NEVER see Hillary "throwing arms" around rightwingers!	arcane1	May 2016	#187
Awww	leftynyc	May 2016	#188
yeah. why is this poster on a democratic website?	rockfordfile	May 2016	#177
Said what? That Americans don't want civil insurrection and revolution?	treestar	May 2016	#185
Hillary represents what we have, Corporate Socialism. Bernie represents Democratic Socialism.	Kip Humphrey	May 2016	#3
I like that. Corporate Socialism ... corporate tax breaks and subsidies and give aways.	trudyco	May 2016	#247
I am a very proud centrist, capitalist loving American, have been all of	Thinkingabout	May 2016	#4
Smartest thing I've heard all day.nt	clarice	May 2016	#57
You already have an oligarchy...	Armstead	May 2016	#65
You don't even know what the word oligarchy means	cali	May 2016	#76
The list of words that Clinton supporters don't know the meaning of but use anyway is pretty big	Scootaloo	May 2016	#105
Exactly.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2016	#111
Do you get Social Security? I wish I had kept the list of the dozens of	libdem4life	May 2016	#136
How have you managed 25k posts on this site and not even know what oligarchy means?	RichVRichV	May 2016	#232
I do, do you?	Thinkingabout	May 2016	#233
WTF??? America IS socialist now, at least the better parts of it.	Fast Walker 52	May 2016	#5
this is the BS sentiment that really turns me off from Hillary	Fast Walker 52	May 2016	#6
And there you go, folks. nt	DLevine	May 2016	#7
Except social mobility in the USA is less than most European countries	Fumesucker	May 2016	#8
what the bern's don't get	wilt the stilt	May 2016	#9
Medicare is 65+....	HooptieWagon	May 2016	#16
whenever you hear "Medicare for all"	wilt the stilt	May 2016	#17
It has to be free to the end user or its prohibited nd we have to privatize.	Baobab	May 2016	#31
Whenever I hear "Medicare for all" . My first thought is whose going to pay for it?nt	clarice	May 2016	#202
Pay roll tax, and your premiums and deductibles	Karma13612	May 2016	#235
But if there were "Medicare For All" a family of four would have Medicare	Recursion	May 2016	#22
There can be no "deductible" with single payer. It has to be free. You dont have tiers in single pay	Baobab	May 2016	#33
Well, Medicare certainly has a deductible. A pretty high one.	Recursion	May 2016	#37
The amount they make has nothing to do with complexity. You're evading my question. Also, you know	Baobab	May 2016	#51
Hillary's solution, globalization will give them a big pay cut. The foreign nurses, teachers, etc	Baobab	May 2016	#54
You talk about doctor's taking a pay cut	Thirties Child	May 2016	#109
I'm for some form of universal health	wilt the stilt	May 2016	#39
"medicare for all" is a rallying cry	wilt the stilt	May 2016	#55
But upwards mobility is dead in this country.	JRLeft	May 2016	#21
Except Fumesucker is right: this "better life" is being eroded.	raging moderate	May 2016	#25
Nail on head - "Sanders supporters actually want a more moderate country"	Armstead	May 2016	#67
"Can you hear me now?" Absolutely!	7wo7rees	May 2016	#96
To have it as good as they do in Canada, a family would have to make $25,000 per year more.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2016	#112
With all due respect, I don't understand this statement. nt.	polly7	May 2016	#119
Point: People come here for more money.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2016	#120
Thanks. Sorry, I didn't read what you were responding to. nt.	polly7	May 2016	#124
A better life = MAKE MORE MONEY? Maybe that is one opinion.	pangaia	May 2016	#255
America is no longer a place for a New Deal Dem	Broward	May 2016	#11
Perhaps you've been listening to too much propaganda for too long.	highprincipleswork	May 2016	#13
K&R!!! n/t	RKP5637	May 2016	#29
I'm sure your benefactors	mac56	May 2016	#15
I think they pay by the word...	Yurovsky	May 2016	#50
So we should learn our places and settle. Got it.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2016	#18
I would say that from the empty rhetoric	rock	May 2016	#20
What a crock of shit	mindem	May 2016	#23
Bernie has been a politician pulling down six figures for 25 years	redstateblues	May 2016	#101
He absolutely does. Ask the farmers, loggers and blue collar workers here	cali	May 2016	#117
By your logic, no nationally elected figure is capable of having a connection to average folks.	phleshdef	May 2016	#137
.....and the Clintons were flat broke after Bill's regime ended......	seekthetruth	May 2016	#219
It's not about how much they make, but how they're making it.	YOHABLO	May 2016	#231
Another example that all the talk of common goals and being on the same side is	TheKentuckian	May 2016	#24
Sure seems that way	vintx	May 2016	#246
proof in the supporters and their posts...	HumanityExperiment	May 2016	#26
Malcolm X's words still ring true today...	AZ Progressive	May 2016	#157
I have good reason to think Hillary's being put in there to destroy the middle class-and before	Baobab	May 2016	#27
Best post I've seen all day. nt	vintx	May 2016	#248
And with this latest screed, you finally go ignore.	morningfog	May 2016	#28
What a bizarre post! n/t	RKP5637	May 2016	#30
Do tell, what makes America an exceptional country?	sinkingfeeling	May 2016	#32
Don't we all enjoy ignorant jingoism, though?	bvf	May 2016	#81
Sound more like republican values then democrat.	pinskinny	May 2016	#34
I think the OP has been listening to Rush Limbaugh way too much.	B Calm	May 2016	#259
We are a socialist capitalist hybrid and you are a right winger	phleshdef	May 2016	#35
I want you to apologize to every single electron you've inconvenienced with this dung heap of a post	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#36
What utter nonsense	kcr	May 2016	#38
You should watch "Where to Invade Next" by Michael Moore. -nt	CrispyQ	May 2016	#40
I am constantly amazed by the conservative talking points I see on DU. n/t	demmiblue	May 2016	#41
It's unbelievable! They want Hillary and Hillary does not want the middle class to survive.	bkkyosemite	May 2016	#44
Some of these posts are very republican and very scary...omg....	bkkyosemite	May 2016	#42
It's okay to be a Republican as long as you	LWolf	May 2016	#43
It's the new Orwellian DU.	Arugula Latte	May 2016	#144
Wow.	TransitJohn	May 2016	#45
Oh, so THAT's why the taxpayers are always bailing out the Banksters!	Octafish	May 2016	#46
That one won't be here after the admins effect new rules.	Rex	May 2016	#129
Canada is a centrist, capitalist country	CanadaexPat	May 2016	#47
+1 (NT)	Eric J in MN	May 2016	#53
^^^This	katsy	May 2016	#169
There is nothing about America or any other nation that inherently precludes socialism.	forjusticethunders	May 2016	#49
In the 1930s, the New Deal	Eric J in MN	May 2016	#52
My 8th grader and the rest of his social studies class have a better understanding of these terms.	FourScore	May 2016	#56
To repeat: I am a long-time Hillary supporter -- stop the red baiting	obamanut2012	May 2016	#58
For those attacking ericson00...	clarice	May 2016	#59
He more than has the right to express what he likes.	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#63
No he doesn't...and we ARE an exceptional Country....	clarice	May 2016	#66
Oh please, I guarantee you if you lived in the systemic corruption in Mexico's government	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#70
Putting your obvious disdain for America aside...	clarice	May 2016	#73
Obvious disdain? For presenting facts?	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#80
I will close with this quote from Jonathon Swift...	clarice	May 2016	#84
an observation...you apparently are keeping score for a different game	islandmkl	May 2016	#91
Please explain islandmkl.nt	clarice	May 2016	#94
"...game, set, match goes to Clarice."	islandmkl	May 2016	#100
I only responded in that way because the other poster was so nasty and belligerent.Peace.nt	clarice	May 2016	#102
Try to defend an indefensible standpoint and that's what you'll get	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#125
And I hope that you can come to...	clarice	May 2016	#134
"American-phobic" for pointing out what the fuck is wrong with our nation.	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#138
Don't hold your breath.nt	clarice	May 2016	#199
Oh, snap!	Amaril	May 2016	#211
Not really. But, have a great weekend anyway. Eom	Karma13612	May 2016	#236
That's right no other country in the world let's citizens	sinkingfeeling	May 2016	#168
This must be "Grumpy Friday"lol. nt	clarice	May 2016	#200
There are 195 countries in the world, and you're free to have this discussion without repercussions	Exilednight	May 2016	#224
Without starting a fight...I'm curious about something.....	clarice	May 2016	#241
I'm not pleased about it. it's a disgrace that we go around	Exilednight	May 2016	#250
One thing for sure.......sending a LOT of money that will.....	clarice	May 2016	#253
yes, like Israel.	Exilednight	May 2016	#256
And? You don't think that it's important to have a home base in.....	clarice	May 2016	#260
mistake is a poor strategic alliy. we can't	Exilednight	May 2016	#261
I'm not justifying it...just	clarice	May 2016	#262
how is it better sent and what hell holes are you speaking of?	Exilednight	May 2016	#263
Get a map... 10 darts...throw them randomly.....you will hit some.nt	clarice	May 2016	#264
that's a very flippant response.	Exilednight	May 2016	#265
I figured it was either that... or getting alerted on.lol	clarice	May 2016	#266
So we should allow Trump supporters in here? Why?	chascarrillo	May 2016	#68
To quote George Orwell....	clarice	May 2016	#86
What are we supposed to do? Applaud the nonsense?	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2016	#72
No....simply be open to differing opinions. It's the Liberal way.nt	clarice	May 2016	#74
Open? Yes. Accept them? No. Comment on them? You bet.	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2016	#77
EXACTLY !!!! I'm just opposed to the nastiness in some of the other posts.nt	clarice	May 2016	#79
Well, the OP wasn't exactly tolerant and polite.	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2016	#88
I just re-read the OP...	clarice	May 2016	#90
Like calling people America-phobic?	LanternWaste	May 2016	#209
Fastest alert finger in the West.nt	clarice	May 2016	#210
Whichever you decide is most effective.nt	clarice	May 2016	#242
---	mac56	May 2016	#83
Sage advice from a true mental giant.nt	clarice	May 2016	#87
Ah. When you can't dispute the statement, insult the speaker.	mac56	May 2016	#114
That wasn't an insult... I always like to hear his views on current events.nt	clarice	May 2016	#115
I welcome his (presumably honest) expression of free thought.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2016	#113
Well said.nt	clarice	May 2016	#116
For those attacking those attacking ericson00...	frylock	May 2016	#148
Free thought and expression are one thing...common courtesy is another. What's your beef?nt	clarice	May 2016	#201
Precisely how do those verbal responses prevent free thought or expression?	LanternWaste	May 2016	#205
Golly, that's really scary. Red Bait much?	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2016	#60
McCarthy called... He wants his Red Scare blinders back.	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#64
Just an aside...is that gif from Boxer's speech?	libdem4life	May 2016	#141
Yep.	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#142
Funny, I watched very little of it, but that really stood out...along with	libdem4life	May 2016	#145
Pure HRC propaganda statement; Americans overwhelmingly want what Sanders (Dem Soc) proposes, plus	amborin	May 2016	#61
Here ya go -- Some movies and books I'm sure you'll love	Armstead	May 2016	#62
There is no centrist ideology	AgingAmerican	May 2016	#69
So True -- Everyone views "The Center" as their own views	Armstead	May 2016	#71
Exactly. So how would the OP define the "centrist" postion on abortion?	bullwinkle428	May 2016	#153
Typical status quo defense from a Hillary supporter	pinebox	May 2016	#75
Really good post. Nice refutation to Ericson! Bookmarked	7wo7rees	May 2016	#85
This post defines why we need a "mike drop" smilie!!	bullwinkle428	May 2016	#158
Yes indeed... The smack hath been laid down!	Yurovsky	May 2016	#206
So much win	vintx	May 2016	#249
Great post, must read for Hillary supporters!	B Calm	May 2016	#258
Untrue, which is why your beloved Hillary has had to "evolve" her centrist positions so much to run.	merrily	May 2016	#78
Red-baiting and defeatism.	Jester Messiah	May 2016	#82
Capitalism is unsustainable.	immoderate	May 2016	#89
We are a capitalist/socialist hybrid.	cry baby	May 2016	#92
This message was self-deleted by its author	tenderfoot	May 2016	#95
Right wing red baiting uninformed hogwash	cali	May 2016	#97
Go join the Republican party	ThePhilosopher04	May 2016	#98
i'm always amused at how many words it takes for someone to exhibit that they	islandmkl	May 2016	#99
Well, an awful lot of money is backing your agenda..	Orsino	May 2016	#104
That's a very Republican point of view.	WDIM	May 2016	#106
I'll bet you didn't intend for this post to be as funny as it is, did you?	Scootaloo	May 2016	#107
You are completely wrong.	hollowdweller	May 2016	#108
See? This is what is now meant by "democratic underground"	lumberjack_jeff	May 2016	#110
A total eye opener that is for sure.	Rex	May 2016	#126
ericson00—The nation is not Washington, D.C. (Perhaps you will wake up eventually.)	CobaltBlue	May 2016	#118
That person had to come from redstate	rockfordfile	May 2016	#180
And this is why America will never change for the better. Ever.	tenderfoot	May 2016	#122
Enjoy your stay.	Rex	May 2016	#123
FFS, "look at me"	Logical	May 2016	#127
I am a proud Democrat but I'm not a Socialist.	hamsterjill	May 2016	#128
Healthcare should be a human right just as it	katsy	May 2016	#182
Hoard?	hamsterjill	May 2016	#222
Read the science journals.	katsy	May 2016	#225
Happy to be ignored by people such as yourself.	hamsterjill	May 2016	#239
I saw my post come to top of my post list & knew you answered.	katsy	May 2016	#257
Get a clue?	hamsterjill	May 2016	#267
Well Lets Poll The Country On That! Which of the candidates' values	Lodestar	May 2016	#130
This is why Hillary supporters sicken progressives.	libtodeath	May 2016	#131
+ 1000. nt	VulgarPoet	May 2016	#132
There will be a new America. And it will be socialist. Deal with it.	DemocraticWing	May 2016	#133
HMM there is plenty of ahem socialism	nadinbrzezinski	May 2016	#140
The old rank and file here is starting to lose it.	Rex	May 2016	#212
Yup	nadinbrzezinski	May 2016	#213
Thats right, own up to it, be proud of it!	AZ Progressive	May 2016	#143
You may be a socialist if....	panader0	May 2016	#146
70-90% of Americans want peace, education, healthcare, etc.--but the political class	MisterP	May 2016	#147
ericson, this is no way to win primary votes. The facts are all Hillary needs to convince them.	BootinUp	May 2016	#149
You people have been deceitful long enough	AZ Progressive	May 2016	#152
Thanks for the broad brushing, attack. nt	BootinUp	May 2016	#156
This thread shows that Malcolm X's "fox and wolf" analogy is still true today	AZ Progressive	May 2016	#150
Dude. 1405 views, 150 replies and 5 recs. Get a clue.	merrily	May 2016	#151
And if it weren't for Amnesty, this bs wouldn't be here.	neverforget	May 2016	#159
ericsson? LOL! I always thought of him or her as innocuous. Then again, I look at the Op post	merrily	May 2016	#161
One has racked up 1,100 posts in just a month.	QC	May 2016	#170
This country had to pass a constitutional amendment....	HooptieWagon	May 2016	#154
thanx for the call to Hell, I wont sit still for that. socialism isnt communism	larkrake	May 2016	#155
The Proof Is In The Pudding	jamese777	May 2016	#160
Hit n' run.	derpderpderp	May 2016	#163
You are mistaken	katsy	May 2016	#165
What total horseshit.	Fawke Em	May 2016	#166
BTW, the economy will suffer under her just as much.	Fawke Em	May 2016	#167
Not even reading the thread	passiveporcupine	May 2016	#171
Democratic Socialist countries are also capitalist.	Quixote1818	May 2016	#172
I agree to the extent the US is historically resistant to taxation.	ucrdem	May 2016	#173
We are about 50% socialist already.	kentuck	May 2016	#174
This poster should cut the fox news crap	rockfordfile	May 2016	#176
175 posts and counting and still no sign of the OP returning? Hmmm.	merrily	May 2016	#179
You really should give Rush Limbaugh credit for your post.	guillaumeb	May 2016	#181
Yes, it is very unrealistic to think the masses of Americans	treestar	May 2016	#183
63% of Americans think the minimum wage should be $15 by 2020	Ash_F	May 2016	#184
Minion says what?	arcane1	May 2016	#186
I'm sticking with Bernie and I notice you don't mention that our current Congres is no reflection	Todays_Illusion	May 2016	#189
Status quo wants more status quo. Let's pretend that FDR never was president.	Betty Karlson	May 2016	#190
"We are not socialist" Thanks for the info! We didn't know that!	imagine2015	May 2016	#191
Arrogance ...	GeorgeGist	May 2016	#193
The United States is a Socialist country.	gordianot	May 2016	#194
i think socialism could indeed happen in the U.S. with effective evolution.	LanternWaste	May 2016	#203
Very odd the most favored programs in our government are socialist programs.	Vinca	May 2016	#204
"Deal with it"	Amaril	May 2016	#207
.....and you're what's wrong with the left.	seekthetruth	May 2016	#208
That's why we pay our fire department subscription fees, elementary school tuition, and road tolls!	Attorney in Texas	May 2016	#214
...	kaleckim	May 2016	#217
ericson00—Thank you for trying to channel Alex Keaton, Michael J. Fox’s character, on ‘Family Ties!’	CobaltBlue	May 2016	#218
Yeah, let's throw out all those socialist ideas like Social Security,Medicare, public ed, fire depts	EndElectoral	May 2016	#220
Btw, socialism doesn't preclude markets either	forjusticethunders	May 2016	#221
Ah, bullshit.	cliffordu	May 2016	#223
Ameerica is a trophy to be won by whichever side is strong enough to take it point blank	craigmatic	May 2016	#226
Europe will always have feudalism.	ZombieHorde	May 2016	#227
you mean like Great Britain?	Rosa Luxemburg	May 2016	#228
I'm a Clinton supporter but this OP doesn't represent my views, or her's.	brush	May 2016	#229
There is more upward mobility in Scandinavia	dflprincess	May 2016	#230
It didn't start out this way, and the	Karma13612	May 2016	#234
the problem with bernie supportes is if you dont agree then you are branded a republican	rdking647	May 2016	#237
The Overton window has been shifted significantly far right	forjusticethunders	May 2016	#269
You are genuinely an idiot.	frustrated_lefty	May 2016	#238
You are a Republican, go to Free Republic and suck up to the 1% there.	Odin2005	May 2016	#240
If you read more, you'd know this is not true. BTW, what does "capitalist" country mean?	snowy owl	May 2016	#243
Holy shit. A "Democrat" just wrote this?	pangaia	May 2016	#251
In 1776, that poster would be telling us to remain loyal to the British Crown.	arcane1	May 2016	#252
Never say never. You are not Nostradamus.	floriduck	May 2016	#254
This is right wing Republican dogma	TransitJohn	May 2016	#268

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