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saidsimplesimon

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116. Thank you madaboutharry, recommended!
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:26 AM
May 2016

This was the most civil, enlightening and moving discussion that I've read on DU.

I can relate to the pain of disappointment. I was not that crazy about John Edwards. I admired Elizabeth Edwards so much I was willing to overlook my suspicions that John Edwards was a narcissist. Then came President Obama, who I supported 100%, still do. I would still rank him as one of our best Presidents, ever. However, I feel betrayed that he changed so many positions after he was elected.

I thought I had found a home many years ago on what was considered a progressive blog. "More and better Democrats" was the mantra, coalitions with NNN. I rarely post there anymore. It is OK by me to make a profit, but my love for the younger generation and our country is not for sale. My opinions are my own, no one should be attacked for sharing them.

Again, I thank you and all those who made this the best read on DU.

The simple answer is that she put herself in the position morningfog May 2016 #1
Which alternative? NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #7
Whatever she is guarding being made known. morningfog May 2016 #17
I don't think she's guarding anything nefarious. It's secrecy for the sake of secrecy. Thirties Child May 2016 #130
And if we ignore astrology... ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #140
I'm a scorpio tazkcmo May 2016 #156
I am more cynical than that. grasswire May 2016 #10
Even without the hacker it would have been discovered karynnj May 2016 #55
Hard Choices? merrily May 2016 #126
She became part of the club sandyshoes17 May 2016 #158
I remember how I felt when the news about John Edwards' affair JDPriestly May 2016 #2
That was a shitty moment. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #6
I felt betrayed then, as I had supported him. QC May 2016 #8
Those among Hillary's fans who are intelligent feel that way about JDPriestly May 2016 #11
I know two words I'm thinking... cui bono May 2016 #134
Same here. Not that I thought he was great, but because he Blue Meany May 2016 #80
His "2 Americas" speech was one of the best in a generation or more... Yurovsky May 2016 #108
He gave a great speech and so did Obama... Blue Meany May 2016 #124
That was my reason as well--he at least acknowledged QC May 2016 #111
I felt the same way. k8conant May 2016 #153
That mofo dropped out the day I had put my CA primary ballot in the mail for him KeepItReal May 2016 #28
It hurt. JDPriestly May 2016 #30
Good post. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #3
Maybe out of all the facets of her life she didn't Hortensis May 2016 #42
Do you think John Kerry was less addicted to his blackberry karynnj May 2016 #58
No, I think right-wing Judicial Watch's use of Hortensis May 2016 #59
Had HRC been a sensible woman she would know that karynnj May 2016 #64
Yes, and they took out Kerry and put W in the White House, Hortensis May 2016 #67
There was no truth in the swiftboat lies, but W had already been in the WH for 4 years karynnj May 2016 #88
The US has never voted out a war time incumbent President. NEVER. merrily May 2016 #129
Sadly, one of the major papers did focus groups in Ohio to see why karynnj May 2016 #133
Someone had a theory that Kerry lost because Hillary wanted to run in 2008 and that's merrily May 2016 #135
Wasn't Obama addicted to his BlackBerry? Loudestlib May 2016 #73
I wrote yesterday ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #105
Don't Worry BootinUp May 2016 #4
Well. Congratulations on the eventual nomination I guess. n/t Scootaloo May 2016 #5
Curious why you didn't post this in the Hillary group? still_one May 2016 #9
Because this is bigger than the Hillary group. madaboutharry May 2016 #14
Then if you truly believe that, you should really vote for Bernie. Here are some threads that still_one May 2016 #18
I will vote for whoever is the nominee. madaboutharry May 2016 #20
I assumed that. My point was simply that if you feel the way you do about this issue, then still_one May 2016 #35
You still should have vented this angst with those who would nave been understanding of your Fla Dem May 2016 #176
I think you are wrong. madaboutharry May 2016 #177
Are you kidding? And get yourself tossed out? TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #16
You don't what you are talking about. Here is one which discusses the issue, and the problems still_one May 2016 #23
I think this thread has encouraged very good discussion. madaboutharry May 2016 #57
That didn't take long: demmiblue May 2016 #54
lol TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #120
An image of jack boots went through my mind while reading that. senz May 2016 #162
Wow. Not allowed to even question her. Unreal. polly7 May 2016 #167
Bwahahaha. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #170
It's not as if this has come up suddenly. SheilaT May 2016 #12
"Hillarybots" was unnecessary. madaboutharry May 2016 #15
I'm quite sick and tired of the denigration of the Bernie people SheilaT May 2016 #24
Yes, the GOP created the indictment fairy realmirage May 2016 #34
No Hillary's actions created that when she forced an FBI investigation by her actions and Autumn May 2016 #96
And saying it with a lot of smugness and condescension. I don't mind people disagreeing with me pdsimdars May 2016 #65
Seriously? You're going to bring that up in this thread? From one Bernie supporter to another... FourScore May 2016 #100
The OP reads as if this is a genuinely new and totally unexpected turn of events. SheilaT May 2016 #119
I agree... it is akin to kicking someone when they are down. n/t demmiblue May 2016 #121
Your side has spent the entire primary insulting, lying, and cheating Bernie supporters pengu May 2016 #53
+1, couldn't agree more. /nt Marr May 2016 #155
Such empathy!!! (Yeah, I'm saying it with sarcasm.) FourScore May 2016 #101
Exactly. Some of them act like this is a natural disaster that just came out of nowhere. Marr May 2016 #154
I really appreciate this open reflection, and I honestly share your dismay. FourScore May 2016 #13
I'm sorry you've bought the whole smear. LAS14 May 2016 #147
I appreciate your sharing that. I would be feeling the same way if I were supporting her, too. JudyM May 2016 #19
I do thank you for saying so. Aerows May 2016 #21
that's what we've been trying to say.. 2banon May 2016 #22
I empathize. It's been an eye opening 24 hours Arazi May 2016 #25
I feel your pain nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #26
I learned a similar lesson this time around Scootaloo May 2016 #31
True, true nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #43
Poor judgment. elleng May 2016 #27
Hillary IS the Clinton bubble. dchill May 2016 #29
... senz May 2016 #163
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #32
That was a sweet post. Betty Karlson May 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #117
Nice post. I read the idea of the basement server was Bill's initially. Land of Enchantment May 2016 #141
I feel the same way. She gave the repugs even more ammo to attack her on. As if jillan May 2016 #33
She has let her supporters down for sure. I'm sorry this happened to you. Must be hard for ... agracie May 2016 #36
Hubris...just like her husband noiretextatique May 2016 #37
Thank you for posting. Even 840high May 2016 #38
"A little"? "Now"? bvf May 2016 #39
I am struck by your understanding she brought this on herself. AtomicKitten May 2016 #40
this isn't just a matter of optics — it's about honesty Nate Roberts May 2016 #41
Maybe we need a president who doesn't have an enemy as bad as she herself? Betty Karlson May 2016 #44
Exactly. A politician with a disdain for accountability to the public is not just not perfect TheKentuckian May 2016 #66
This is EXACTLY the kind of "problem" that ~Super-Delegate Insurance~ John Poet May 2016 #46
Nope. Super-Delegate Insurance was really intended to get us out of a winter is coming May 2016 #128
I have the same pit in my stomach that I got watching Bill compound the Lewinsky thing GreatGazoo May 2016 #47
I have been blocked from the Hillary group over this post. madaboutharry May 2016 #48
Let them have their little clique of stupid pinebox May 2016 #50
Par for the course, I'm afraid. demmiblue May 2016 #51
That is the standard operating procedure, unfortunately. TheKentuckian May 2016 #68
Now you get some of the feelings we have been having. Those Hillary people seem mean to me. pdsimdars May 2016 #69
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #71
Haven't you heard? No criticism of Hillary allowed. mountain grammy May 2016 #87
I'm sorry pmorlan1 May 2016 #90
When I read your post I figured they'd block you The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #107
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #110
I've noticed that *some* Hillary followers have an authoritarian streak... jack_krass May 2016 #113
Wow. Sorry to hear that. progressoid May 2016 #114
i'm so sorry Madaboutharry Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #123
Wow. I have heard that there is a lot of anger there, Curmudgeoness May 2016 #145
I have been blocked from the Hillary group over this post. AlbertCat May 2016 #146
The cult is very strong in that group. You are much better off being on the outside. BillZBubb May 2016 #159
Mahalo Capt. Obvious May 2016 #160
I am sorry that happened to you kdmorris May 2016 #164
I'm sorry you were blocked from your own candidate's group passiveporcupine May 2016 #165
What group did Skinner start? madaboutharry May 2016 #166
I'm not a Hill fan so I don't know what it's called, passiveporcupine May 2016 #168
I don't remember the name of it either, but visited just after it was polly7 May 2016 #169
Hillary Mojo beltanefauve May 2016 #171
He wanted to keep it positive, IIRC, so of course it flopped. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #179
Sorry to hear. bvf May 2016 #172
I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM JUST -TRY- TO BLOCK ME! Warren DeMontague May 2016 #178
Finally! The voice of sanity from a Hillary supporter! pinebox May 2016 #49
And did you get that, they kicked her out of the Hillary group for getting it and saying it. pdsimdars May 2016 #70
How did you find that out? LAS14 May 2016 #76
She posted it, upthread. n/t intheflow May 2016 #137
She said so in a post earlier in this thread. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #180
It's the same MO Bill Clinton operated under, the Republicans were coming after him tooth and nail Uncle Joe May 2016 #52
Even though I'm a Bernie supporter, I completely understand you. Barack_America May 2016 #56
She considers herself above the law. Jester Messiah May 2016 #60
No. madaboutharry May 2016 #61
In that sense she reminds me of Nixon. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #112
Yes. As offensive as that analogy is to some, it has validity RufusTFirefly May 2016 #161
Precisely. After decades of being hunted by what really is a vast right wing tblue37 Jun 2016 #181
It's refreshing to see one of her supporters actually thinking. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #62
A decent post by a Hillary supporter. I sympathize Katashi_itto May 2016 #63
Hillary is going to be an excellent president.. asuhornets May 2016 #72
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #79
Nothing will happen...NOTHING..see you on June 7th..Hillary needs less than 80 delegates asuhornets May 2016 #85
How could a person who claims to be 'hunted' endorse things like DADT for others? Bluenorthwest May 2016 #91
Newsflash: Bernie Sanders was against gay in 2006-2007? asuhornets May 2016 #93
Newsflash your post is a falsehood. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #127
Hear, hear!!!!! LAS14 May 2016 #148
At first I didn't know how to feel.... LAS14 May 2016 #74
Hillary is not remorseful Madam Mossfern May 2016 #89
calculated + caught = 'mistake'...that has always been Clinton math... islandmkl May 2016 #99
How can you possibly know that? LAS14 May 2016 #150
How can you NOT know that. Madam Mossfern May 2016 #175
K & R nt findrskeep May 2016 #75
IMO it's a character thing... she only recognizes legal authority and even then argues the points HereSince1628 May 2016 #77
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amoral ambition. unethical hubris. a skewed sense of integrity. Hiraeth May 2016 #86
Great post rufus dog May 2016 #104
It was a mistake. Hindsight is better than foresight. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #78
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Welcome back. Oh, 59% of Senate Dems voted for the IWR, including the sitting VP and SOS DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #84
And you think that makes it right? I don't. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #92
It's been a continuing mistake though Tom Rinaldo May 2016 #118
She needs to drop out now so the Democratic Party can put distance between her and save face B Calm May 2016 #83
Sorry but Bernie can't have the nomination without winning it, just like every other candidate. StevieM May 2016 #144
Hillary above all people should have known what would happen with this. She gave Autumn May 2016 #94
This is exactly why she did all of this..if you think theres laserhaas May 2016 #95
LOL your right Separation May 2016 #97
Appreciate your honesty Armstead May 2016 #98
you dont get it. artyteacher May 2016 #102
everybody 'gets it'...the real 'it'...scandals seem to be manifest with ALL DEMS? islandmkl May 2016 #103
exactly rufus dog May 2016 #106
Yours is the most important and interesting post I've read here in some time. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #109
I have said the same for a long time. Hell Hath No Fury May 2016 #115
Thank you madaboutharry, recommended! saidsimplesimon May 2016 #116
Sorry, madaboutharry Amaril May 2016 #122
I felt this way about John Edwards. AmBlue May 2016 #125
I do think her riversedge May 2016 #131
Totally agree riverside! MoonRiver May 2016 #136
Hear, hear!!!!! LAS14 May 2016 #152
Hear, hear!!!!!! LAS14 May 2016 #151
You can continue to place your misguided trust in her if you like. Marr May 2016 #157
Okay since you're being honest I'll throw some honesty out here too Joob May 2016 #132
"Did her own life experience make her paranoid?" Schema Thing May 2016 #138
She has always had an integrity problem. Her goal is clearly to amass as much wealth rhett o rick May 2016 #139
She has put us all in a potentially very bad position. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #142
Thank you for your honesty. Land of Enchantment May 2016 #143
I don't really see the purpose in this...we have enough with the Berners Demsrule86 May 2016 #149
This is bad news for everyone at du Doctor_J May 2016 #173
Thank you for your honesty ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #174
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