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Waiting For Everyman

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32. That was not the norm and was not necessary to most.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:40 PM
May 2016

And I had a working mom. People believe stereotypes too much.

Conservatives look back jamese777 May 2016 #1
And conservatives don't learn from the past so repeat mistakes over and over and over snowy owl May 2016 #2
Conservatives look back to the 1850s, not the 1950s. denverbill May 2016 #19
A lot of people sure don't understand the post, do they? snowy owl May 2016 #63
We read the whole thing. We disagree with you. PeaceNikki May 2016 #74
"We need to return to a better Democratic Party" Duval May 2016 #141
The 50's were a better time? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #3
Hey the "good old days" workinclasszero May 2016 #9
The more I think about it. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #10
The good old days of the fifties or earlier were only for the dominant race, culture and sex. workinclasszero May 2016 #12
The OP doubles down later in the thread CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #57
Cite post number. snowy owl May 2016 #115
You do realize we can go back to the economic justice of the 50's (equalized for all) RichVRichV May 2016 #212
There was no economic justice in the 50's. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #260
Yep, the middle class didn't exist then. RichVRichV May 2016 #262
If you equalize the economic justice while still maintaining the social justice gains of today ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #285
Well of course we don't want to go back to the 50's. RichVRichV May 2016 #297
The 50s were better -- excepting minorities -- because America was building houses, corporations Hoyt May 2016 #4
Yes, and if we became more local, we could do it again. snowy owl May 2016 #15
If you took every penny from the upper 10% -- which would include many of your doctors, lawyers, Hoyt May 2016 #78
See below. You don't know taht. Just a meme that gets repeated. snowy owl May 2016 #116
Excepting minorities....and women. So basically, over half the population. nt msanthrope May 2016 #292
That dog whistle is so loud... scscholar May 2016 #5
That's what the Trump and to a much lesser extent yet he Sanders campaign all about Txbluedog May 2016 #14
Thanks for not reading the post Too many words fo ya? snowy owl May 2016 #64
Play as innocent as you want. barrow-wight May 2016 #275
This OP makes me sad mcar May 2016 #187
I remember the 1950s. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #6
This. It was... onyourleft May 2016 #8
That was addressed in the post. snowy owl May 2016 #17
no, you didn't mention women PeaceNikki May 2016 #30
At my college orientation in 1967 greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #59
OH HELL YES. Hekate May 2016 #170
I'll never forget that day. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #216
One of my first jobs mcar May 2016 #190
That happpened to my sister in the Chicago Public Schools. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #193
Right? mcar May 2016 #203
Same here. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #211
My mother lied about her due date with my older brother tammywammy May 2016 #204
Well said! mcar May 2016 #206
My father's mother also died in 1957 when I was 8. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #219
Our neighbors across the street were both in the LAPD. She stuck it out till her 7th month... Hekate May 2016 #221
No, you didn't mention that women were expected to stay home barefoot and pregnant. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #44
Ugh! Amaril May 2016 #98
Good for you! greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #100
You are awesome. Number23 May 2016 #238
Nice! Agschmid May 2016 #244
... mcar May 2016 #201
+100000 auntpurl May 2016 #33
My dad said it was a horrible time Dem2 May 2016 #47
So if you believe that, why did civil rights laws, Medicare, Medicaid, and other things get passed? denverbill May 2016 #144
. Dem2 May 2016 #147
I don't think you ever left. denverbill May 2016 #150
That's a personal attack Dem2 May 2016 #151
That's pretty funny. denverbill May 2016 #164
OK Dem2 May 2016 #168
You called the people that did all that good stuff "jerks" -right? snowy owl May 2016 #192
That was done in the 1960's, not the 1950's. blue neen May 2016 #283
Are you suggesting the turn of the decade from 1959-1960 marked some miraculous turning point? denverbill May 2016 #295
You said, "civil rights laws, Medicare, Medicaid" got passed in the 1950's. blue neen May 2016 #298
Social issue. You didn't read did you? snowy owl May 2016 #66
Yup. Agschmid May 2016 #124
LOL. snowy owl May 2016 #194
Wasn't so hot for small farm families either. They were jwirr May 2016 #188
The 50's included some pretty awful years of drought HereSince1628 May 2016 #289
Agreed. My memories are pretty good about the poverty and jwirr May 2016 #296
I don't want to go back to the times of AA segregation, sit at the back of the workinclasszero May 2016 #7
You can't change the truth of the post by skewing it your way. snowy owl May 2016 #21
and gays went to jail or worse for being gay dsc May 2016 #56
Bad time for gays. But you didn't read either. Gays = social issue. snowy owl May 2016 #67
We read the whole thing. We disagree with you. Stop implying that people who disagree with you are PeaceNikki May 2016 #75
We certainly did and do. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #96
ANY black person that tells you the 1950s are better than today is trying to sell you something Number23 May 2016 #235
I can't hear your post over the dog whistles in the OP. nt msanthrope May 2016 #293
your address to "minorities" heaven05 May 2016 #255
Omg. barrow-wight May 2016 #277
In the 1950's, the US led the world in virtually everything. denverbill May 2016 #11
Learn from the past, plan for the future Raastan May 2016 #29
Racism, Jim Crow, Systematic oppression of minorities... philosslayer May 2016 #121
all you say is true heaven05 May 2016 #256
You can't be serious. If this post is sincere, it is very racially tone deaf. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #13
I addressed minorities very clearly. Do you read posts or headlines? snowy owl May 2016 #22
I think you are deliberately trying to alienate black people Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #50
Blacks? You don't care about women, gays, Native Americans? Not so good for them snowy owl May 2016 #69
Wow. barrow-wight May 2016 #279
Thank you! bravenak May 2016 #272
You are one of Bernie's most vociferous supporters here. barrow-wight May 2016 #278
It wasn't better for minorities ECONOMICALLY -- except there were more jobs as maids. pnwmom May 2016 #16
All of which are social issues and I said the same thing. snowy owl May 2016 #24
No, they aren't social issues. They are ECONOMIC issues. The only people doing pnwmom May 2016 #27
No, they are social issues and yes are affected by ecoonomis as I said. snowy owl May 2016 #70
Wrong. The rising economic wealth of the 50's only lifted the boats of working white men. pnwmom May 2016 #132
Believe what you want to believe. Yes, for whites much better. Social prog. yet to evolve. snowy owl May 2016 #174
For white men but not white women -- unless they were happily married to successful men. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #176
I've thought about it heaven05 May 2016 #257
I am just floored. barrow-wight May 2016 #280
In other words, it was better for white males. PeaceNikki May 2016 #31
It's tunnel vision again. Duval May 2016 #142
None so blind as they who will not see. Hekate May 2016 #200
Bullshit. Not better for minorities. cali May 2016 #18
You read the headline, right? Now go back and read the post. snowy owl May 2016 #25
I read it. All things being equal is a phrase that minimizes cali May 2016 #35
This is the second Bernie supporter to call you out. barrow-wight May 2016 #281
I'm gobsmacked to see this crap here mcar May 2016 #205
We have lost track of so many things we did right. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #20
No, it couldn't easily have been done. For instance, many middle class people then pnwmom May 2016 #26
That was not the norm and was not necessary to most. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #32
It was much more common than today, among middle class white people. pnwmom May 2016 #39
Jane Austen? Bit silly. Waiting correct: it was not the norm. I lived it. snowy owl May 2016 #172
Given all of your caveats, for whom was it a better time? Starry Messenger May 2016 #23
For everybody. Rich and poor alike. Just like Burlington VT it was a better place snowy owl May 2016 #45
Burlington is a town of 40,000 people, mostly white. Starry Messenger May 2016 #102
They still have three major colleges in the area, they won't miss Burlington College too much. Agschmid May 2016 #126
I hope that is exactly what Jane Sanders uses as her answer Starry Messenger May 2016 #128
Most likely. Agschmid May 2016 #129
Are you really this obtuse? GulfCoast66 May 2016 #249
You are absolutely right about women's 3 career choices forcing the best & brightest women into them Hekate May 2016 #268
Why, thank you GulfCoast66 May 2016 #271
That guy needs to rethink his assumptions, but since he's had two posts hidden in this thread ... Hekate May 2016 #273
Post more. nt msanthrope May 2016 #294
Here's the last person I saw say that blacks had it better pre civil rights: barrow-wight May 2016 #282
Bullshit cali May 2016 #286
The pendulum between business and labor was in a better place One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #28
Union membership was at an all-time high, iirc. That meant blue-collar wage-earners could get ahead Hekate May 2016 #195
Unions are Part of the balance One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #290
Ri-fucking-diculous PeaceNikki May 2016 #34
So you're a headline reader as well. Too many like that on this site. snowy owl May 2016 #48
No, chief. You dismiss too many to be taken seriously. And you forgot women. PeaceNikki May 2016 #54
So, it's all about women? Social issue. Progress would have been made. snowy owl May 2016 #87
Angry? No, I am disgusted that you romanticize a time when so many were treated so much worse... PeaceNikki May 2016 #90
Watch out your being an "angry woman"... Men don't like that. Agschmid May 2016 #127
I know. It's so unladylike. PeaceNikki May 2016 #145
Women are a "social issue"? They're also half of the economy. And they weren't all lifted pnwmom May 2016 #133
I am literally laughing out loud. After all my efforts to write reasoned history-based responses... Hekate May 2016 #173
It's crazy. I guess men write with passion, women with angry emotionalism. PeaceNikki May 2016 #177
No question about it. Men also have hearty laughs, but women cackle. Men boom out... Hekate May 2016 #197
Men have convictions, women are stubborn. PeaceNikki May 2016 #199
It is seriously nuts. Hekate May 2016 #202
And why do we have to keep pointing this out? mcar May 2016 #208
Hey, I sent away for my woman card because -- well, we ALL know after a certain age. Hekate May 2016 #214
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #217
Wow. PeaceNikki May 2016 #220
wow? zappaman May 2016 #225
The OP is flagged for review now. Bye, Felicia. PeaceNikki May 2016 #226
But what about the five mouth breathers that rec'd this crap? Who I'm sure are the FIRST ones to Number23 May 2016 #248
Up to 7 now. Agschmid May 2016 #299
I wish I could respond to that hidden post with a hearty GFY cali May 2016 #288
That would certainly be an appropriate response. PeaceNikki May 2016 #291
+1 Agschmid May 2016 #300
I did too mcar May 2016 #223
The OP is flagged for review now so... PeaceNikki May 2016 #224
Hallelujah! mcar May 2016 #232
Ain't that the Goddess's own truth. Hekate May 2016 #229
You are such a darling, sweet person. Number23 May 2016 #243
Tell us how you really feel. I perceive you are holding back and bottling it all up. Hekate May 2016 #252
yep, me too heaven05 May 2016 #259
heaven!! Number23 May 2016 #274
What the ever loving fuck???? cali May 2016 #287
As a whole, the Left has NEVER been as progressive as they are today Sheepshank May 2016 #36
I don't think you can prove that. Read about Henry Wallace if you want to learn. snowy owl May 2016 #49
I get what you're trying to say, racially insensitive as it is forjusticethunders May 2016 #37
White males, you mean. PeaceNikki May 2016 #40
Did you read post? I don't think so but... snowy owl May 2016 #52
Thats a powerful statement workinclasszero May 2016 #131
Fantastic post. Number23 May 2016 #250
It was better for white men and white men only KingFlorez May 2016 #38
White males, you mean. PeaceNikki May 2016 #41
Yes, of course, my mistake. forjusticethunders May 2016 #42
You're right about that KingFlorez May 2016 #43
So did it work for Native Americans? Why only blacks? snowy owl May 2016 #53
You know damn well it didn't work for anyone but white men KingFlorez May 2016 #55
No, I don't. I grew up working class and both parents worked. Nice slogan. snowy owl May 2016 #79
ECONOMICALLY it wasn't better in the 50's - not even close! Corporate666 May 2016 #46
So for you it's all about "consumerism." You think tech woud not have progressed? snowy owl May 2016 #58
Funny that you can exclude women and POC and still imagine that "most people" bettyellen May 2016 #61
Your opinion. I disagree. snowy owl May 2016 #103
Having fewer to no rights at all was not better.... Only bettyellen May 2016 #118
Women and POC were restricted in choices and options, at work as well as in society. suffragette May 2016 #148
No, it's about standard of living. For you it's all about incorrect romanticism. Corporate666 May 2016 #83
Life much better for some. Much worse for others. That's the point. snowy owl May 2016 #104
The poor oppressed straight white males. PeaceNikki May 2016 #114
Wrong Corporate666 May 2016 #159
Life was better for some at the extreme expense of others. barrow-wight May 2016 #284
It pit us on a treadmill Armstead May 2016 #68
That's not even true. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #76
Agree. Post notes Powell's initiation of corporatism. Should have said Seventies! snowy owl May 2016 #111
I would settle for pre Reagan Mnpaul May 2016 #137
The OP you are responding to mcar May 2016 #209
post war economy KT2000 May 2016 #51
Yes, the feds poured money into the economy. Why not? That's the point snowy owl May 2016 #60
No, for the average straight white man, it was better. Everyone else was fucked. PeaceNikki May 2016 #77
Or if you had sickness in the family, or catastrophe, or addiction. raging moderate May 2016 #186
nothing wrong with federal money KT2000 May 2016 #107
"The 50s were a better time, except for all those people for whom it was a bad time." gollygee May 2016 #62
Seriously wtf. Quayblue May 2016 #72
Is tthere equality now? snowy owl May 2016 #80
The seminal poster said black folk were better off too... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #84
I did not say that. Again, read more than headline. The point was Powell. snowy owl May 2016 #95
The 50s were not a better time ECONOMICALLY for everyone either. gollygee May 2016 #143
Look at the recs CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #157
I will give him the benefit of the doubt and just believe he didn't think it through. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #163
Except that he keeps replying and defending his "position" mcar May 2016 #213
Know who else constantly harped on the desire, "I want my country back"? Sheepshank May 2016 #65
All things were not equal, so it wasn't a better time Orangepeel May 2016 #71
Are things equal now? Greatest disparity between rich and poor ever. snowy owl May 2016 #85
As the daughter of a white small farmer I would have a hard jwirr May 2016 #207
Death of a Salesman is quite depressing for those who knew people caught in that trap. Hoyt May 2016 #245
The fifties weren't a better time for women, for people of color, for gays, and for Mexicans. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #73
Addressed. Read it. Too many words? snowy owl May 2016 #81
No, you poo-pooed it. PeaceNikki May 2016 #82
Sorry. Does not compute. snowy owl May 2016 #86
Yeah, we see that. You're dismissing everyone who's not a straight white male. PeaceNikki May 2016 #88
yes, I'm a straight white mail in disquise. Take a breath. snowy owl May 2016 #92
WTF? I am breathing just fine, sparky. PeaceNikki May 2016 #94
Now namecalling? snowy owl May 2016 #106
Lol, that's adorable. PeaceNikki May 2016 #108
Your patronizing attitude can not camouflage DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #89
So, did you read the Powell piece? Doesn't that explain the difference? snowy owl May 2016 #91
I have seen the argument in this thread we were better off than most of the world. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #93
I agree with that completely. We've raped the entire third world. snowy owl May 2016 #99
Don't forget WW ll left much of Asia, Europe, and parts of Africa in ruin. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #101
What's your point? snowy owl May 2016 #105
The 50s were a great time for American straight white males. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #109
Problem is education: post correlated with Powell Piece. People no longer read nor comprehend snowy owl May 2016 #97
Holy shit, you are thick and arrogant as hell. People don't agree with you. deal with it. PeaceNikki May 2016 #110
Get over yourself. You sound like someone here for shock value. snowy owl May 2016 #112
You absolutely should, for sure. PeaceNikki May 2016 #113
Maybe you should stop dismissing how fucked up it was for everybody EXCEPT white men bravenak May 2016 #135
This ^ PeaceNikki May 2016 #146
Sing it! mcar May 2016 #231
+1000 heaven05 May 2016 #263
I was 6 years old in 1950. 16 in 1960. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #117
I totally agree with your statement. Hungry poor? snowy owl May 2016 #122
I was five years old in 1950. snowy owl May 2016 #125
women were stuck in abusive relationship Fresh_Start May 2016 #119
Divorce was possible and happened. Social mores against divorce. snowy owl May 2016 #120
My mother divorced Fresh_Start May 2016 #149
I forgot to mention women but I did mention religion. It was hard for women. snowy owl May 2016 #162
I'm sorry for you too Fresh_Start May 2016 #218
That leaded gasoline sure tasted better than the crap we've got now! Warren DeMontague May 2016 #123
And in paint. Thanks for not reading post. snowy owl May 2016 #136
I can't think of jack shit that was "better" in the 1950s. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #140
Music was better! zappaman May 2016 #154
Thank God that Hipster Frank Sinatra fetishization seems to have abated a bit Warren DeMontague May 2016 #160
Ugh. zappaman May 2016 #166
Those crazy kids! mcar May 2016 #236
And it was fun bouncing around in the car with no seatbelts... greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #222
I grew up in the 70s, and I really miss not being able to go anywhere without being choked by Warren DeMontague May 2016 #228
Yeah, that was so much fun! greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #230
You mean the 1950s? ffr May 2016 #130
Agree. Two biggest problems: population; depleting resources (land,water,food,etc) snowy owl May 2016 #134
FDR Democrats vs. Reagan Democrats. senz May 2016 #138
Congresswoman, Sheila Jackson Lee (D) Texas, once said, "Republicans oasis May 2016 #139
Our government was progressive. The industrialized world was recovering from WWII devastation. pampango May 2016 #152
I don't disagree. But post points out influence of Powell. snowy owl May 2016 #156
The beginning of Ralph Nadir WhiteTara May 2016 #153
The 50's Democratic Party was the high-water mark of Strom Thurmond Tarc May 2016 #155
Yes. It was. Are minorities overall doing better now? snowy owl May 2016 #158
Yes. PeaceNikki May 2016 #161
Proof please. Explain if you can. snowy owl May 2016 #165
Civil rights, desegregation, same sex marriage, Lilly Ledbetter... PeaceNikki May 2016 #171
casting pearls....... heaven05 May 2016 #265
That you have to ask such a silly question shows how little you understand Tarc May 2016 #251
I see you modified a few things. But let me point out that after WW II "Rosie the Riveter" was fired Hekate May 2016 #167
Absolute truth. Outstanding. MerryBlooms May 2016 #169
Did not modify. Added edit. Life Magazine? C'mon. Depictions. Not reality. snowy owl May 2016 #179
LIFE magazine was the visual history of the time in part as we wanted to see ourselves... Hekate May 2016 #210
I'm trying to think what 1950's the op is talking about.... beachbumbob May 2016 #175
How about the 1950s which had lowest unemployment? For starters. snowy owl May 2016 #180
The 1950s gave birth to the Civil Rights movement. senz May 2016 #178
Thanks for saying it better! And GI Bill! snowy owl May 2016 #181
Yep. The Third Way/DLC Reagan lovers feared the rising American middle class senz May 2016 #183
Were you even alive then? MineralMan May 2016 #182
Born in '45. More than you need to know to make your case. Yes, I lived it. snowy owl May 2016 #184
In the fifties you were a kid. None of the problems were yours. PeaceNikki May 2016 #196
This jackalope is a full-time poster, okasha May 2016 #261
Well-spotted. As of this thread he is Flagged for Review.... Hekate May 2016 #270
well you may have lived it heaven05 May 2016 #266
What is going on here? KK9 May 2016 #185
Yes, the point was suppose dto be getting our party back. snowy owl May 2016 #189
I did... KK9 May 2016 #191
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #198
Welcome to DU. Sometimes the going gets weird. Hekate May 2016 #227
this is how more than a few people remember the 1950's dsc May 2016 #215
The most ignorant, tone deaf and embarassing thing I've seen in a long time here Number23 May 2016 #233
He's flagged for review so he gets a break. PeaceNikki May 2016 #234
I hope that all of the folks that brayed like mules when someone posted an opinon piece from a black Number23 May 2016 #237
It sails right over their heads. PeaceNikki May 2016 #239
And amen for that mcar May 2016 #240
Well they got locked out of their own thread so we may never understand... Agschmid May 2016 #242
I'll never understand anyway. This is just an extension of the screaming about "identity politics," Number23 May 2016 #246
I urged him to get off this thread and read what the women have been saying... Hekate May 2016 #247
You are out of your ever loving mind. The 50's sucked so bad that the 60's was a giant Bluenorthwest May 2016 #241
If the 50s were so wonderful, why did we need the Great Society programs in the 60s onenote May 2016 #253
lol La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #254
I've got a slogan for you: Make America Great Again onenote May 2016 #258
+1 La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #264
This is appalling. barrow-wight May 2016 #267
"We need to get back the Party of Bernie." Sparkly May 2016 #269
Yeah, when nobody had rights except white men. JTFrog May 2016 #276
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