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Peace Patriot

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55. Could be that that's some of it. But we cannot escape the fact that Hillary...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:22 AM
Jun 2016

...has Kagan, and Henry Kissinger, as advisors. These are monstrous warmongers! They are the architects of devastation for millions of people! And, as Clinton's actions on Libya and Honduras illustrate, she is with them. She now thinks like them. Have you seen the vid of Hillary's jolly laugh at the torture and murder of Gadaffi? How could anybody laugh at that? How could anybody make a joke of it? ("We came, we saw, he died! Har-har-har!" --Hillary Clinton).

The first word that sprang to my mind, watching that vid, was "psychosis." A break with reality. Not that I think Clinton is crazy or psychotic. I think the psychosis is social--a sort of catchable disease that roams among the people who hold great power or seek great power, in the most powerful country in the world, and some people get infected with this disease. The effects may be temporary, or may lead to slaughtering a hundred thousand innocent people, if the victim of the disease is in a position to do so. (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al.)

I'll venture a diagnosis that John Kerry has never been infected with this disease, nor Barack Obama. Kerry might have gotten immunized by his service in Vietnam. Obama just doesn't seem to have the kind of personality that would be vulnerable to it. I can't imagine him ever laughing at the torture and murder of another person, no matter who it was. Nor do I think he considers the disaster of "Hillary's War" (as I've heard it's called in DC) to be a triumph of any kind, worthy of celebration.

Maybe a better word for it is "war fever" but I do think it's catching, and I think Hillary "caught" this illness from Kagan, Kissinger and others of that ilk whom she pals around with and wants to impress. Her joking remark and her laughter at Gadaffi's murder--it seems without a thought of the horrible chaos that that act unleashed--is naked and open (for those moments in the vid), whereas her mentors mask the sense of power they get from commanding others to kill and inflicting mass death. They are colder and more practiced at it. Hillary is more like a raw recruit.

This worries me a lot about Hillary. I fear that she's they're tool, and that they do, indeed, intend to ride her back into the White House for another round of U.S. war on the Middle East and another go at "The Project For A New American Century." I'm talking about the Neo-Cons who brought us the war on Iraq. I think she has too much of a need to be accepted by these militarists.

Well, enough of my amateur psychoanalysis! I'm an old lady myself and have endured my country inflicting unjust war after unjust war upon other people in the world, while our soldiers come home crippled and broken, or in body bags. And I remember, like it was yesterday, who Henry Kissinger is and what he did, in the heyday of his mass murder binges. His name is anathema to most people of my age. When I learned that Hillary Clinton is close with Kissinger, vacations with him, is friends with that bastard, is advised by him, I knew what direction she was headed in, and I cringed, as if a car wreck was coming.

You could say that she's being very clever, wrapping all these men around her little finger, and that we probably need a president who is clever and is able to move around in all the circles of the rich and powerful. There is an argument to be made for that view (--although I don't think she's clever, leaving herself wide open to attack, as she did, with the private email server). But I don't read her that way--as a master manipulator of the imperial dons. I think it's the other way around--that she is being manipulated. That vid of her laughing at torture and murder tells me that she has caught their disease. She is, in a sense, "ill," and she doesn't hide it very well--and, in that vid, is unable to hide it at all.

Robert Kagen Endorses Hillary! [View all] Meteor Man Jun 2016 OP
Neocons are looking for a new perch. I doubt he gets the time of day applegrove Jun 2016 #1
Try to keep up ... Scuba Jun 2016 #26
Why is is that so many so called, or self styled madokie Jun 2016 #31
When Republicans do it we call it "willful ignorance." Scuba Jun 2016 #38
So what? At least he'll vote Democratic. Bernie or Busters won't. nt oasis Jun 2016 #2
Going for the warminger Vote Meteor Man Jun 2016 #3
If you see a Hillary ad heading in that direction I'm sure you'll waste oasis Jun 2016 #6
PNAC is a danger to America and to the world. jillan Jun 2016 #9
As POTUS, Hillary will be in charge, not PNAC. So relax. oasis Jun 2016 #13
That's soooo reassuring. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #18
Bring in the clowns! Meteor Man Jun 2016 #4
I don't vote for warmongers jfern Jun 2016 #11
And the millions who have made Hillary the Democratic nominee don't oasis Jun 2016 #15
They might want to take a closer look at her Syria policy jfern Jun 2016 #19
You clearly don't know what you're voting for then. Broward Jun 2016 #25
Yup.blind allegiance. oasis Jun 2016 #42
Were you here for all the talk of PNAC back in the day? Armstead Jun 2016 #30
Hill did not, does not support or embrace PNAC. If one or oasis Jun 2016 #40
The first PNAC project adopted was Plan Colombia while Bill Clinton was POTUS. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #50
The 78 day bombing of Serbia was also a PNAC project nationalize the fed Jun 2016 #51
Nice pic of our Secretaries of State. oasis Jun 2016 #53
Thanks. Great info on Nuland. nt oasis Jun 2016 #52
I put in my time getting the word out on PNAC, back in the day. oasis Jun 2016 #43
There are votes you don't want and this is one of them Renew Deal Jun 2016 #36
If Kagen goes out and stumps for Hillary's campaign, then I'll oasis Jun 2016 #41
I agree Renew Deal Jun 2016 #44
Go. Read. Learn. Meteor Man Jun 2016 #5
Wrong place. sorry jillan Jun 2016 #8
O.M.G. jillan Jun 2016 #7
Quite something. elleng Jun 2016 #14
Yep Meteor Man Jun 2016 #20
With friends like that... n/t winter is coming Jun 2016 #10
PNAC Meteor Man Jun 2016 #12
Project, not "People" JackRiddler Jun 2016 #17
Kagan. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #16
Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland, Hillary Clinton. Nyan Jun 2016 #21
Sadly...yes...getting louder...n/t KoKo Jun 2016 #48
Why WOULDN'T he endorse a fellow neocon? There is nothing "Democratic" about her foreign policy Vote2016 Jun 2016 #22
Disgusting Doctor_J Jun 2016 #23
Republicans are starting to jump off the Trump ship. Good news. YouDig Jun 2016 #24
Do you know anything of the PNAC....and how it used to be regarded on DU? Armstead Jun 2016 #32
Would you rather have him supporting Trump? Not me. If Republicans think Trump is too YouDig Jun 2016 #33
yes I'd rather have him supporting Trump...and your admission..... Armstead Jun 2016 #35
If Republicans want to jump ship, I'm happy with that. More votes for us. YouDig Jun 2016 #39
Trump bashed Kristol yesterday in the press conference. Kristol is oasis Jun 2016 #47
That whooshing sound you just heard? Your point going right over someone's head. ebayfool Jun 2016 #56
Yep. Had a nauseous feeling that I would be seeing "Democrats" enthusiastically embracing war djean111 Jun 2016 #27
The Neo-Cons are planning to ride Hillary back into the White House. Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #28
Maybe Condi Rice will become a bi-partisan Secretary of State Armstead Jun 2016 #34
HAVE WE NOT HAD ENOUGH OF THIS!? KoKo Jun 2016 #49
It is more of a commentary about how much the right hates Trump, than being about Clinton Tarc Jun 2016 #29
That's a little bit topsy turvey Armstead Jun 2016 #37
Could be that that's some of it. But we cannot escape the fact that Hillary... Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #55
I have no objections to the actions taken in Libya Tarc Jun 2016 #57
Yep. bemildred Jun 2016 #45
Time to invest in companies that are known as war profiteers. Vinca Jun 2016 #46
That's why the Carlyle Group and Trireme Partnerships... Octafish Jun 2016 #58
With friends like that, who needs Democrats? nt mhatrw Jun 2016 #54
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