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In reply to the discussion: Pro-Bernie Sanders posts to be banned on DU before Democratic Party has a candidate for President? [View all]sibelian
(7,804 posts)275. EXACTLY, it's not a political ideology at all, it's just a bunch of DEBATING TACTICS
It's a bunch of debating tactics that have emerged reflexively through previous lost battles instead of establishing a functional ideology through any observation of realpolitik, it's completely eclipsed anything that resembles a desire to relate cause to effect prosaically.
The most profoundly head-cracking thing about it is that they absorb wholesale the assumptions they need to make the debating tactics look reasonable to themselves AS IF THEY ARRIVED AT THEM THROUGH AN ANALYSIS OF EXTERNAL REALITY even when said assumptions contradict each other.
"Excuse me? Sir? Did you notice that thing you just did where you completely re-wrote what you believe just so you get to carry on arguing with your opponent, sir? Uh, sir? Sir? The irony of your implied insistence on principle is lost on no-one but you."
blaming the voters is just easy, especially when you see
I'll go through your stuff
Your list is excellent. I'd add:
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Pro-Bernie Sanders posts to be banned on DU before Democratic Party has a candidate for President? [View all]
imagine2015
May 2016
OP
And if Bernie says or writes something critical of Clinton will that be allowed?
imagine2015
May 2016
#3
And if Hill supporter says or writes something critical of Bernie will that be allowed?
B Calm
May 2016
#91
We will be onto beating the LUNATIC FrankenTrump which is ALL that will matter. Move on please.
RBInMaine
May 2016
#113
He isn't the nominee. Random Democrats and others get criticized all the time here.
Mr Maru
May 2016
#181
Oh here's a PUMA that's proud of it. And PUMA stands for Party Unity My ASS.
Zen Democrat
Jun 2016
#253
So, are people just going to ignore all the negatives things that come out about Hillary?
Loudestlib
May 2016
#39
well, THAT will certainly cramp the style of the Repugnants "for" Bernie!! LOL!!
Bill USA
May 2016
#56
According to Skinner, just viewing an ad on DU-as in it simply appearing on your screen
JimDandy
May 2016
#125
Keep acting like it's nothing that she has done. Because that is just head in the sand time.
bkkyosemite
Jun 2016
#231
A lot of people are taking it upon themselves to speak for admin, here, aren't they.
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2016
#209
I agree. And posts before the convention pointing out why Bernie is a better nominee
lostnfound
Jun 2016
#227
And if criminal or other serious matters come up with the presumptive nominee we are
bkkyosemite
Jun 2016
#233
Please point to evidence that "Serious talk is beginning to surface among Democratic Party leaders"
brooklynite
May 2016
#4
I agree with you -- this has always been my understanding during election season
Samantha
May 2016
#12
I don't presume the conventions will select Hillary. She doesn't have enough pledged votes.
imagine2015
May 2016
#15
All well and good. Just don't attack Hillary here on DU and you won't have any problems.
hack89
May 2016
#19
You can certainly walk that line if you wish by keeping things factual and unemotional.
hack89
May 2016
#37
Makes total sense, if you haven't been paying attention to current news.
anotherproletariat
Jun 2016
#202
What exactly is "attack"? Is it any mention of her weakness, poor decisions history? Is mentioning
Vincardog
May 2016
#104
Just to be clear it is your opinion that mentioning true facts in regard to HRC is attacking her.
Vincardog
May 2016
#180
what does it say about a candidate when pointing out their record is called vitriol?
azurnoir
May 2016
#147
skewed as opposed to sugar coated ? and when it comes to hateful tone .......
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#200
they're so worried about Trump that they'll run the weaker candidate against him
MisterP
May 2016
#53
that was literally their approach to the 2010, '12, and '14 elections: "our campaigning was PERFECT
MisterP
Jun 2016
#270
It's............ BIZARRE. BIZARRE. It's the WEIRDEST political system in the world.
sibelian
Jun 2016
#272
it's got a lot of parts: 1. blaming the voters is just easy, especially when you see
MisterP
Jun 2016
#273
EXACTLY, it's not a political ideology at all, it's just a bunch of DEBATING TACTICS
sibelian
Jun 2016
#275
it's different Hillary conceded she had enormous campaign debt that Obama agreed to pay off for her
azurnoir
May 2016
#148
"there is a very good chance that collectively the convention delegates won't elect Hillary Clinton"
sufrommich
May 2016
#10
Anti what Hillary represents -- DLC, Corporate and Wall St. owned pseudo centrism and....
Armstead
May 2016
#24
The Adminstrators are not stupid but I bet they are under enormous pressure to transform DU into a
imagine2015
May 2016
#26
Skinner has stayed in AtA that he sees Trump as a threat to the nation
Algernon Moncrieff
May 2016
#40
And most DU'ers will support the Democratic candidate AFTER the party decides on a candidate!
imagine2015
May 2016
#69
OK, I posted that I'd behave and stop arguing, so I'm going to do that
Algernon Moncrieff
Jun 2016
#284
Thank goodness you signed up last week to condescend to us long timers today
Ned_Devine
May 2016
#101
Agreed. I'm bummed its come to this actually. I've been here since 2005
riderinthestorm
May 2016
#151
You're mistaken. Hillary will not have enough pledged delegates to capture the nomination.
imagine2015
May 2016
#30
Skinner will call the election before Hillary has secured the nomination and when Bernie says he is
imagine2015
May 2016
#153
In every contest since 1984 when superdelegates began, the election has been "called"
pnwmom
Jun 2016
#250
silly people expecting PRIVATE ventures to operate as if it were a government entity
Sheepshank
May 2016
#87
Please, show me some examples of what you consider "outrageous and venomous attacks"
Scootaloo
Jun 2016
#236
HRC supporters will s.t.r.e.t.c.h the DU 'mandate' to burn any Bernie supporters
HumanityExperiment
May 2016
#60
Hey, Clint Eastwood, looks like you'll need to holster your Magnum typing fingers
suffragette
Jun 2016
#235
So sorry, it must be vexing -not to mention tiresome- to return to talking about issues.
randome
May 2016
#95
People should consider websites/forums that are well known among political junkies.
senz
May 2016
#129
exactly. They will get their echo chamber back but they will lose a lot of members and a lot of
liberal_at_heart
May 2016
#159
Hillary will not have the required amount of 2,383 pledged delegates for a clinch.
B Calm
May 2016
#127
We'll get it out of our systems very easily. After watching the various purges and the abuse of
haikugal
Jun 2016
#281
Your denial is deeply deeply pathetic. Skinner giving you a boost of reality is actually a huge gift
tritsofme
May 2016
#134
It's an acknowledgment of how weak and vulnerable they think she actually is.
Ferd Berfel
May 2016
#141
The same rules were in place 2004, 2008, and for those that didn't get their pony in 2012
Renew Deal
May 2016
#150
Why should we feel unsafe? Hmmm. I hope that's not meant as a threat of some sort.
bravenak
May 2016
#176
Obviously you (the collective you) feel unsafe since you feel the desperate need to censor opinions
basselope
May 2016
#178
Once that happens, no one in their right mind will use DU as a legit source for anything. It
litlbilly
May 2016
#185
We can't help it if Hillary Clinton is scandal ridden and distrusted by most people.
imagine2015
May 2016
#192
There is a difference though between having an honest difference of opinion and just trying to stir
cstanleytech
Jun 2016
#214
K&R. Please Skinner, don't pull a DWS on us. It won't work, but it will have consequences
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#215
we have our nominee on June 6th skinner is being gracious to allow the bashing of her until the 16th
beachbum bob
Jun 2016
#217
I and many other posters do. He is running for the nomination and criticizes Hillary's positions.
imagine2015
Jun 2016
#224
I hope that if someone finds another good site for discussion that doesn't have the censorship
pdsimdars
Jun 2016
#222
Are you going to apologize for your false accusation for an Op of whining that had no basis?
seabeyond
Jun 2016
#232
I guess I'll have to patronize that Naveed fellow at that other website.
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2016
#239
Are you being forced to participate here? You're not even a Star Member who contributed...
BobbyDrake
Jun 2016
#245
The Democratic Party has not picked anyone to run for President no matter how much you protest that
imagine2015
Jun 2016
#264
no they won't, and neither will pro-Hillary supporters as long as they follow the TOS after the
still_one
Jun 2016
#251
Oh what bullshit. Problems with reading comprehension? Where did you see that?
Lil Missy
Jun 2016
#255