2016 Postmortem

Tortmaster

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57. Democracy means that the person with more votes wins.

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:14 AM

Jun 2016

President Obama beat Mitt Romney by 5 million votes in the popular vote category, and that included all of the Democrats, Republicans, weirdo Libertarians, lazy Greens &tc.

Secretary Clinton is winning by 3 million votes in the Democratic Primary! And we haven't finished voting yet!

Democracy is working fine; your guy just got smoked.

As for your argument upthread that it wasn't a fair playing field, I agree. Secretary Clinton had to beat back Republicans, single-issue NRA voters, Libertarians, anarcho-Libertarians, lazy Greens and tens of millions of SuperPAC dollars. She faced ratfucking from the Republicans, while Senator Sanders got the ratfluffing treatment.

Your guy had every break in the book, including caucuses, open primaries, tons of money (including money spent indirectly on his behalf by Republican SuperPACs), and not getting deeply vetted until his New York Daily News interview.

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Bernie Sanders and Rigged Elections: Sometimes You Just Lose [View all] StevieM Jun 2016 OP

well, if we go there, and discount red states, Bernie wins by a landslide larkrake Jun 2016 #1

But not OK, KS, UT, AK, and ID. They totally matter. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3

As to the last quoted line, yeah Hillary supporters have done the same. morningfog Jun 2016 #2

Sure RobertEarl Jun 2016 #4

There is no such thing as a fair playing field in real life. Eko Jun 2016 #7

That's why RobertEarl Jun 2016 #8

Your question makes no sense. Eko Jun 2016 #9

Nice dancing RobertEarl Jun 2016 #10

Fair elections? Eko Jun 2016 #13

There's no "i" in con. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #44

Thanks lol. Eko Jun 2016 #47

I stated your reasons Eko Jun 2016 #14

Why dont you Eko Jun 2016 #16

Wont anwser the question? Eko Jun 2016 #22

And people who say that Eko Jun 2016 #11

Do you have any clue what democracy means? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #15

First off Eko Jun 2016 #17

Democracy means that the person with more votes wins. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #57

According to your version of fair Eko Jun 2016 #19

It's not delegitimizing the candidate. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #27

So you agree Eko Jun 2016 #34

I must have missed that. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #40

The one you first Eko Jun 2016 #45

You are right, passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #18

see post 19 Eko Jun 2016 #20

You are wrong passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #26

I think the equal non-partisian air time Eko Jun 2016 #33

News used to have standards passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #48

I agree Eko Jun 2016 #49

If that is all that is offered for news, people will watch it. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #52

So you think it is not a fair playing field Eko Jun 2016 #54

Blacked him out? Eko Jun 2016 #21

Yes, blackout is hyperbole. How about virtual blackout? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #38

Virtual blackout? Eko Jun 2016 #42

So...whatever you can get away with, then? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #28

With friends like those, eh? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #29

No kidding! Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #31

I was told to come back when I get wise. Eko Jun 2016 #35

Wrong! RobertEarl Jun 2016 #37

It will get hidden for meta. Eko Jun 2016 #39

Damn RobertEarl Jun 2016 #41

Why dont you repost Eko Jun 2016 #43

You posted it RobertEarl Jun 2016 #46

So,,, Eko Jun 2016 #50

Oh no!!!!! Eko Jun 2016 #55

Here ya go Eko Jun 2016 #56

Yeah, Eko Jun 2016 #36

And sometimes it's just rigged. Nt azmom Jun 2016 #5

Rigged elections? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #23

K&R 👍🏼 Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #6

So, are the Sanders supporters here starting to realize this? eastwestdem Jun 2016 #12

"I don’t think there’s any way you could construct a delegate system where Bernie Sanders would win Number23 Jun 2016 #24

Sanders' impact on the Dem Party in full: Minnesota moves to presidential primary in 2020 Number23 Jun 2016 #25

You mean that as a neoliberal (neocon?) you HOPE that is his legacy. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #30

If I had any idea what point you were even PRETENDING to be making right now, that would be Number23 Jun 2016 #32

My discourse right here is perfectly calm. As it is a discussion board I am discussing. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #53

"Bye. Forever Ignore for you." Number23 Jun 2016 #61

Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 by a half million, and every Democrat ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #51

Clinton isn't whining about caucus, nor yelling cheating. So no, seabeyond Jun 2016 #58

The caucuses are about as unfair as you can get when it comes to disenfranchising voters StevieM Jun 2016 #59

Absolutely. The state of Washington highlights, significantly more voters, and for Clinton, solidly. seabeyond Jun 2016 #60