2016 Postmortem

Demsrule86

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21. It does not work well

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:45 PM

Jun 2016

I lived there. Mostly wealthy kids go...they can afford the best schools and tutors. While poor kids attend some of the worst schools in the country. When I lived there, the drop out rate in a middle-class area was above 50% and a kid was beaten to death at a bus stop. It does not work well at all and has caused tuition to skyrocket...so that even 10% is unaffordable.

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On opening college education for all who can benefit [View all] thucythucy Jun 2016 OP

here are a few problems with it geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1

Thank you for such a thoughtful reply. thucythucy Jun 2016 #5

Nice discussion, you two. Good point on both sides, nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #17

It's my understanding that a much smaller percentage makes it to college in Europe? bettyellen Jun 2016 #20

My thought on fixing primary education thucythucy Jun 2016 #30

Thanks Thucy! I agree there has to be a better way to fund schools. I know it went to the courts in bettyellen Jun 2016 #42

Here are some other issues that you haven't mentioned. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #48

Interesting and informative post. thucythucy Jun 2016 #49

Thanks for your civil response. It's really in short supply here at DU these days. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #46

People in this country for the most part have not clue SheilaT Jun 2016 #2

It is not a realistic goal Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #3

I'm not familiar with the program in Georgia-- thucythucy Jun 2016 #7

The Hope Scholarship is still working well in GA. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #14

"lottery revenue" ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #18

The GA lottery also augments prek-12 education. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #19

It does not work well Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #21

I've lived in GA since 1999 and while HOPE is not perfect it helps aikoaiko Jun 2016 #23

"State has reduced funding ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #24

The biggest cuts to state funding were during recent recession aikoaiko Jun 2016 #25

There is no Hope any more Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #29

Instate Tuition and fees at OH and UGA are the same. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #35

It is a bad thing when it drives tuition up Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #37

My niece was forced to drop out of college Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #27

Sorry about your niece aikoaiko Jun 2016 #34

The standard are so high now for the Zell scholarship which is what is used mostly for UGA Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #36

ok hill2016 Jun 2016 #4

Your questions would need to be answered for any proposal to work. thucythucy Jun 2016 #9

I believe federalization of state schools would be near impossible. eom yawnmaster Jun 2016 #6

You're probably right. thucythucy Jun 2016 #12

Why would they have to be federalized? They are already jwirr Jun 2016 #16

Feasible and much better ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #8

I like this proposal as well thucythucy Jun 2016 #10

It would stop her friends the banksters from bloodsucking students. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #11

Not the most helpful of replies. Nt. thucythucy Jun 2016 #13

You're right, I edited Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #15

Thanks. I'll get to it later today. Nt. thucythucy Jun 2016 #31

I would also like to point out that since Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #22

Still don't understand how? MichMan Jun 2016 #26

Can you post a link explaining the rise in tuition since, say, the 1980s? thucythucy Jun 2016 #32

Loans enable the increases MichMan Jun 2016 #38

The really big factor in public college tuition increases QC Jun 2016 #43

Excellent point thucythucy Jun 2016 #50

Very good couple of points I had not considered. Thank you. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #44

It's not only an expense, it is an investment in the future Hav Jun 2016 #28

Thanks for your perspective. thucythucy Jun 2016 #33

Used to be for the free college stuff until I looked deeper forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #39

MASSIVE transfer of wealth from the poor to the middle and upper class seabeyond Jun 2016 #45

ThucyThucy, a very informative thread. Thank you. The replies that supply information is the DU seabeyond Jun 2016 #40

Hi Seabeyond! thucythucy Jun 2016 #52

Why not just increase Pell grants? Orangepeel Jun 2016 #41

Increasing Pell grants should definitely be a part of the mix thucythucy Jun 2016 #55

Then who will join the military... actslikeacarrot Jun 2016 #47

Hillary Clinton is the worst candidate we've ever run as Democrats. Aerows Jun 2016 #51

Sanders offers nothing on actually controlling the runaway cost beachbumbob Jun 2016 #53