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Demsrule86

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27. My niece was forced to drop out of college
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:35 AM
Jun 2016

This program requires a very high-grade average...most of these kids would get other scholarships which have dried up since this program was implemented. My niece was attempting to work her way through school...paying tuitions which have gone up substantially because of this program. She also had to deal with red-lining by the banks...this was before Obama took student loans away from the banks...she joined the Air Force in order to get an education. This program fails the middle class and poor Georgia students.

"The Wall Street Journal determined that Georgia students from zip codes with median incomes greater than $50,000 were almost three times as likely to win Zell scholarships as those from less affluent areas. The analysis also found that seven zip codes—all in metro Atlanta, all with median incomes over $100,000—produce 10 percent of Zell scholars but only 3 percent of the state’s fifteen-to-nineteen-year-olds.

The GSFC has projected that about 14 percent of HOPE-eligible students qualify for the Zell. So today they account for a relatively modest portion of the budget. But as Zell awards keep pace with tuition, and as HOPE Lite does not, top-tier students will receive more of the limited lottery pie.

Conversely, the gap between tuition and HOPE grows ever wider. According to the GSFC, HOPE now covers about 64 percent of tuition and fees at UGA. In four years, it will cover only 55 percent. For many students, that shortfall makes or breaks their chances at a four-year diploma."

- See more at: http://www.atlantamagazine.com/colleges/hope-scholarship-cons/#sthash.c0sRW7jm.dpuf

here are a few problems with it geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1
Thank you for such a thoughtful reply. thucythucy Jun 2016 #5
Nice discussion, you two. Good point on both sides, nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #17
It's my understanding that a much smaller percentage makes it to college in Europe? bettyellen Jun 2016 #20
My thought on fixing primary education thucythucy Jun 2016 #30
Thanks Thucy! I agree there has to be a better way to fund schools. I know it went to the courts in bettyellen Jun 2016 #42
Here are some other issues that you haven't mentioned. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #48
Interesting and informative post. thucythucy Jun 2016 #49
Thanks for your civil response. It's really in short supply here at DU these days. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #46
People in this country for the most part have not clue SheilaT Jun 2016 #2
It is not a realistic goal Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #3
I'm not familiar with the program in Georgia-- thucythucy Jun 2016 #7
The Hope Scholarship is still working well in GA. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #14
"lottery revenue" ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #18
The GA lottery also augments prek-12 education. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #19
It does not work well Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #21
I've lived in GA since 1999 and while HOPE is not perfect it helps aikoaiko Jun 2016 #23
"State has reduced funding ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #24
The biggest cuts to state funding were during recent recession aikoaiko Jun 2016 #25
There is no Hope any more Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #29
Instate Tuition and fees at OH and UGA are the same. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #35
It is a bad thing when it drives tuition up Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #37
My niece was forced to drop out of college Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #27
Sorry about your niece aikoaiko Jun 2016 #34
The standard are so high now for the Zell scholarship which is what is used mostly for UGA Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #36
ok hill2016 Jun 2016 #4
Your questions would need to be answered for any proposal to work. thucythucy Jun 2016 #9
I believe federalization of state schools would be near impossible. eom yawnmaster Jun 2016 #6
You're probably right. thucythucy Jun 2016 #12
Why would they have to be federalized? They are already jwirr Jun 2016 #16
Feasible and much better ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #8
I like this proposal as well thucythucy Jun 2016 #10
It would stop her friends the banksters from bloodsucking students. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #11
Not the most helpful of replies. Nt. thucythucy Jun 2016 #13
You're right, I edited Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #15
Thanks. I'll get to it later today. Nt. thucythucy Jun 2016 #31
I would also like to point out that since Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #22
Still don't understand how? MichMan Jun 2016 #26
Can you post a link explaining the rise in tuition since, say, the 1980s? thucythucy Jun 2016 #32
Loans enable the increases MichMan Jun 2016 #38
The really big factor in public college tuition increases QC Jun 2016 #43
Excellent point thucythucy Jun 2016 #50
Very good couple of points I had not considered. Thank you. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #44
It's not only an expense, it is an investment in the future Hav Jun 2016 #28
Thanks for your perspective. thucythucy Jun 2016 #33
Used to be for the free college stuff until I looked deeper forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #39
MASSIVE transfer of wealth from the poor to the middle and upper class seabeyond Jun 2016 #45
ThucyThucy, a very informative thread. Thank you. The replies that supply information is the DU seabeyond Jun 2016 #40
Hi Seabeyond! thucythucy Jun 2016 #52
Why not just increase Pell grants? Orangepeel Jun 2016 #41
Increasing Pell grants should definitely be a part of the mix thucythucy Jun 2016 #55
Then who will join the military... actslikeacarrot Jun 2016 #47
Hillary Clinton is the worst candidate we've ever run as Democrats. Aerows Jun 2016 #51
Sanders offers nothing on actually controlling the runaway cost beachbumbob Jun 2016 #53
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