2016 Postmortem

Demsrule86

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29. There is no Hope any more

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:39 AM

Jun 2016

You have Hope lite scholarships that cover about 55% of tuition these days and Zell scholarships basically designed for the wealthy...Bernie has not thought out the college thing...I have seen how bad it can be. We live in Northern Ohio where tuition is still fairly reasonable. I would not want anything resembling Hope in this state. Also, what about states that opt out as they did with health care...No Bernie is wrong about this.

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On opening college education for all who can benefit [View all] thucythucy Jun 2016 OP

here are a few problems with it geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1

Thank you for such a thoughtful reply. thucythucy Jun 2016 #5

Nice discussion, you two. Good point on both sides, nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #17

It's my understanding that a much smaller percentage makes it to college in Europe? bettyellen Jun 2016 #20

My thought on fixing primary education thucythucy Jun 2016 #30

Thanks Thucy! I agree there has to be a better way to fund schools. I know it went to the courts in bettyellen Jun 2016 #42

Here are some other issues that you haven't mentioned. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #48

Interesting and informative post. thucythucy Jun 2016 #49

Thanks for your civil response. It's really in short supply here at DU these days. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #46

People in this country for the most part have not clue SheilaT Jun 2016 #2

It is not a realistic goal Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #3

I'm not familiar with the program in Georgia-- thucythucy Jun 2016 #7

The Hope Scholarship is still working well in GA. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #14

"lottery revenue" ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #18

The GA lottery also augments prek-12 education. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #19

It does not work well Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #21

I've lived in GA since 1999 and while HOPE is not perfect it helps aikoaiko Jun 2016 #23

"State has reduced funding ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #24

The biggest cuts to state funding were during recent recession aikoaiko Jun 2016 #25

There is no Hope any more Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #29

Instate Tuition and fees at OH and UGA are the same. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #35

It is a bad thing when it drives tuition up Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #37

My niece was forced to drop out of college Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #27

Sorry about your niece aikoaiko Jun 2016 #34

The standard are so high now for the Zell scholarship which is what is used mostly for UGA Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #36

ok hill2016 Jun 2016 #4

Your questions would need to be answered for any proposal to work. thucythucy Jun 2016 #9

I believe federalization of state schools would be near impossible. eom yawnmaster Jun 2016 #6

You're probably right. thucythucy Jun 2016 #12

Why would they have to be federalized? They are already jwirr Jun 2016 #16

Feasible and much better ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #8

I like this proposal as well thucythucy Jun 2016 #10

It would stop her friends the banksters from bloodsucking students. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #11

Not the most helpful of replies. Nt. thucythucy Jun 2016 #13

You're right, I edited Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #15

Thanks. I'll get to it later today. Nt. thucythucy Jun 2016 #31

I would also like to point out that since Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #22

Still don't understand how? MichMan Jun 2016 #26

Can you post a link explaining the rise in tuition since, say, the 1980s? thucythucy Jun 2016 #32

Loans enable the increases MichMan Jun 2016 #38

The really big factor in public college tuition increases QC Jun 2016 #43

Excellent point thucythucy Jun 2016 #50

Very good couple of points I had not considered. Thank you. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #44

It's not only an expense, it is an investment in the future Hav Jun 2016 #28

Thanks for your perspective. thucythucy Jun 2016 #33

Used to be for the free college stuff until I looked deeper forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #39

MASSIVE transfer of wealth from the poor to the middle and upper class seabeyond Jun 2016 #45

ThucyThucy, a very informative thread. Thank you. The replies that supply information is the DU seabeyond Jun 2016 #40

Hi Seabeyond! thucythucy Jun 2016 #52

Why not just increase Pell grants? Orangepeel Jun 2016 #41

Increasing Pell grants should definitely be a part of the mix thucythucy Jun 2016 #55

Then who will join the military... actslikeacarrot Jun 2016 #47

Hillary Clinton is the worst candidate we've ever run as Democrats. Aerows Jun 2016 #51

Sanders offers nothing on actually controlling the runaway cost beachbumbob Jun 2016 #53