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I'm sick of Bernie's arrogance demanding new rules for himself. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #1
Me too. Damn. Something new every damn day. bravenak Jun 2016 #3
Democracy isn't fair! AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #11
I guess that must be Bernie's position since he's the one arguing against democracy. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #54
Good one. Beacool Jun 2016 #76
"superdelegate coup"... dchill Jun 2016 #202
So it's a "coup" for about half the superdelegates to announce their endorsements early? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #210
Hillary would never do such a thing Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #134
+1, then saying the same system the long shot black guy won with in 08 is "rigged" for his ass uponit7771 Jun 2016 #189
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #2
You are the only one think about that bravenak Jun 2016 #5
No jillian, I know this is way out there, but discussing women is not discussing genitals seabeyond Jun 2016 #6
I don't base my vote for a candidate based on what body parts they have. I don't base my friends, jillan Jun 2016 #8
Nor do Clinton supporters. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #9
You reduced Clinton to a body part. YOU. You reduce her supporters to body parts and voting seabeyond Jun 2016 #10
Yes! Why is it that the Sanders campaign thinks that the first woman to ever become the presumptive skylucy Jun 2016 #132
and yet you comment this is sexism. Hard to believe Harry. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #156
Neither do we. You're welcome. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #13
You sure do seem to base your arguments on it though. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #20
So much negativity from Sanders supporters Cary Jun 2016 #213
From start to finish, Clinton has been in the lead. Any man would be called successful. The bar just seabeyond Jun 2016 #4
Crystal damn clear bravenak Jun 2016 #7
Well put, sea! mcar Jun 2016 #116
So true. skylucy Jun 2016 #133
Sanders is not man enough Whimsey Jun 2016 #163
Yep GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #179
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #191
+10000000000 treestar Jun 2016 #219
From before the start, really, by 355 supers. nilram Jun 2016 #228
Sorry. For me she is too right wing, it has nothing to do with gender. m-lekktor Jun 2016 #12
That is fine you do not vote for her because of issues. We are talking about the obvious sexism seabeyond Jun 2016 #16
There is no sexism TeddyR Jun 2016 #29
No excuse. Clinton is kicking ass, perserving, is the fuckin WINNER. To call out the bullshit seabeyond Jun 2016 #33
You ignored the point TeddyR Jun 2016 #37
People have been pretty damn articulate explaining the sexism to you. seabeyond Jun 2016 #45
Ah! Epiphany! TeddyR Jun 2016 #68
Simple. A few words, a few sentence. After Tuesday, it is Clinton's nomination. seabeyond Jun 2016 #71
That wasn't my question TeddyR Jun 2016 #75
So, we redirect the whole conversation of this Op to what YOU want to talk about? No. seabeyond Jun 2016 #79
Very informative TeddyR Jun 2016 #83
Some others are still waiting also......... guillaumeb Jun 2016 #80
Thank you !! Yes! I agree! HILLARY 2016! skylucy Jun 2016 #128
Bull bravenak Jun 2016 #34
So you think a person TeddyR Jun 2016 #40
She is NOT under investigation by the FBI. apcalc Jun 2016 #88
Yes. America loves women like Hillary Clinton–as long as they’re not asking for a promotion PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #43
So true. skylucy Jun 2016 #135
Rather strange article excerpt... k8conant Jun 2016 #140
Strange how? PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #141
Strange because I don't think it's true... k8conant Jun 2016 #143
Concern: duly noted. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #145
The establishment usually has a hard time recognizing oppression of marginalized people uponit7771 Jun 2016 #192
I just alerted a post that called her a hag bravenak Jun 2016 #23
Hillary broke govt rules & lied about it. That's just bad behavior regardless... think Jun 2016 #14
She has the vote. She won. She gets the nomination. Sanders behavior is atrocious. seabeyond Jun 2016 #19
She won bravenak Jun 2016 #24
Great TeddyR Jun 2016 #31
Yes it is bravenak Jun 2016 #38
Hey Brave, how many times have you heard racism is CURED because Obama was elected? Ever? Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #41
I heard the cure was for us to stfu about it. bravenak Jun 2016 #55
Lmfao. Ya. And that. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #57
The racist argument. There is no racism, Obama became president. Brilliant. A true progressive. seabeyond Jun 2016 #39
How does that justify lying and breaking rules? think Jun 2016 #46
It says the cries of fraud are bullshit bravenak Jun 2016 #47
She hasn't admitted shit. She got called out by the Inspector General and is still lying about it. think Jun 2016 #53
I watched her say she'd do it differently. See? Admitted a fault. Unlike some people bravenak Jun 2016 #58
Good luck with that... think Jun 2016 #78
And the inspector general said she did NOT break any laws. George II Jun 2016 #217
Clinton email server broke government rules, watchdog finds think Jun 2016 #220
"Rules" are not "laws". George II Jun 2016 #221
As an employee of the government are you suppose to follow rules or break them? think Jun 2016 #223
We have caught Sanders lying, breaking the rules and possibly laws. I expect your consistency. seabeyond Jun 2016 #52
She broke no rules. apcalc Jun 2016 #90
Apparently you missed the memo: think Jun 2016 #107
Please don't confuse them with facts... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #131
Hillary breaking rules is a plus for her, she needs to break some more uponit7771 Jun 2016 #193
She didn't. Period. George II Jun 2016 #216
LOL. You keep telling youself that... think Jun 2016 #218
How easy it is. Don't like what someone says, claim sexism to avoid discussion The Straight Story Jun 2016 #15
Nothing is easy about racism and sexism Haveadream Jun 2016 #44
Such things warrant serious discussion. Labeling things sexist because you don't like them The Straight Story Jun 2016 #56
The topics of racism and sexism have been discussed seriously Haveadream Jun 2016 #70
I think Bernie would be doing the same thing if it were Bill instead of Hill. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #17
And we do not believe it. We will never know. What I do know, he has never attacked a man seabeyond Jun 2016 #21
I guess its true that we will never know, but he has hard very harsh words for republicans. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #77
Nothing compared to how he has talked to or dismissed women thru out. He doesn't seabeyond Jun 2016 #82
He didn't criticize those leaders in the party because of their gender, race, or sexual orientation aikoaiko Jun 2016 #89
It is ALWAYS women he says something to, but the men that are doing the same? Not so much. seabeyond Jun 2016 #95
Ok, maybe someday maybe we'll see and understand each other better, aikoaiko Jun 2016 #102
Lol aikoaiko. seabeyond Jun 2016 #103
Bucking the establishment or just going on an ego trip? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #60
At this point? See that's the thing. Bernie's been very consistent (albeit imperfectly) aikoaiko Jun 2016 #69
Here's where he has not been consistent radical noodle Jun 2016 #142
Maybe so, but I'd need to look at what Bernie said exactly. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #144
So 400+ superdelegates announcing their preference for Hillary before the primaries = bad. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #212
I think an argument can be made that in neither case is the will of the people the main issue. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #214
It's the campaign contributions stupid... Whimsey Jun 2016 #170
Very hard to give that up bravenak Jun 2016 #174
I don't know if that is true. Bernie has a pretty sweet life in Burlington. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #215
Blind stubbornness is not praiseworthy. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #209
Bernie IS the establishment when it serves his purpose Haveadream Jun 2016 #105
Excellent post. Thanks. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #106
Thanks, seabeyond! Haveadream Jun 2016 #110
Walking away with this thread! brer cat Jun 2016 #124
Well said. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #18
It feels like all of it is coming out right now. Sick! bravenak Jun 2016 #30
The woman who won more delegates and votes should relent to a male in 2nd place Yavin4 Jun 2016 #22
It sure is blatant bravenak Jun 2016 #27
The woman TeddyR Jun 2016 #32
Yes. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #35
This. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #36
Yes! Absolutely! skylucy Jun 2016 #137
Yup! Maven Jun 2016 #158
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #195
One tiny little word of qualification in all this: guillaumeb Jun 2016 #25
And I am not saying all of it is sexist bravenak Jun 2016 #28
Point. You are sure to draw point that it is SOME. then.... "But to equate all criticism of HRC as" seabeyond Jun 2016 #50
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #26
What a stupid fucking thread. BlueStater Jun 2016 #42
Best thread on du bravenak Jun 2016 #49
Yes! Great thread! skylucy Jun 2016 #138
Too corrupt leftinportland Jun 2016 #48
Show me some criminal charges or you are just saying stuff that sounds bad to you for attention bravenak Jun 2016 #51
I'm the last one around here that needs attention... leftinportland Jun 2016 #96
Cant tell bravenak Jun 2016 #99
She'd be the first woman and Sanders would be the first Jewish guy Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #59
Well. She will reach her mark by Tuesday and we can move on bravenak Jun 2016 #62
Agree that for many, the sexism cannot be ignored, at the same time you have to admit AuntPatsy Jun 2016 #61
I don't think anybody is going to please everybody bravenak Jun 2016 #63
I agree completely mcar Jun 2016 #64
This is almost over!! bravenak Jun 2016 #65
The issue is her conservatism on key issues, not her gender. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #66
That is not what this thread is about bravenak Jun 2016 #67
I'd be interested to see some examples TeddyR Jun 2016 #72
Go look for them if you are feeling a desire to see such bravenak Jun 2016 #73
So you have none? TeddyR Jun 2016 #81
I don't run a link farm or ranch or orchard, even bravenak Jun 2016 #84
Very fitting TeddyR Jun 2016 #86
Umm hmm bravenak Jun 2016 #87
Indeed mcar Jun 2016 #122
Seriously bravenak Jun 2016 #123
There you go ruining a perfectly good rant with facts.... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #136
Hear, hear!!!! Beacool Jun 2016 #74
I resent being called sexist TheFarseer Jun 2016 #85
Who wrote your name in this op? Not me. bravenak Jun 2016 #94
If you're not talking about Bernie voters TheFarseer Jun 2016 #117
The only Thatcher thing I saw came from a Hillary supporter's twitter feed. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #91
I saw it here and it was hidden bravenak Jun 2016 #100
.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #104
I guess you win, congratulations. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #111
How is comparing a woman that wants to be POTUS to other woman that have been head of state sexist? azurnoir Jun 2016 #203
It IS the right time, and she IS NOT the right woman. And frankly... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #92
I don't care if you don't care bravenak Jun 2016 #93
Thank you, brave! It is very obvious now that Sanders' feels extremely comfortable in R B Garr Jun 2016 #97
Perfect!!!! You said what I feel. bravenak Jun 2016 #101
"Moral preening"! NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #108
"Get used to imperfect women being able to do the same exact things as imperfect men." Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #98
Kinda obvious what is going on here... bravenak Jun 2016 #109
Isn't it? Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #112
I am so glad we can pass the torch from him to her bravenak Jun 2016 #113
Yes!! My other favorite mental image is Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #114
I want a tshirt please bravenak Jun 2016 #115
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #196
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #118
Jury results. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #119
Good hide bravenak Jun 2016 #120
Yes it was. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #121
A very good hide indeed still_one Jun 2016 #150
Excellent Hide.. 7-Zip! They have nothing without their disingenuous personal attacks. Cha Jun 2016 #159
Total bullshit. I lived through Thatcher and about the only meaningful difference... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #125
bravenak---THANK YOU!!!!! YES! I speak as another woman who is sick of the double standard! skylucy Jun 2016 #126
No prob!!!! This is getting annoying!! bravenak Jun 2016 #129
You left out too dishonest, too crooked and too many ties to the Banksters. n/t brewens Jun 2016 #127
Nope!!!! Thanks anywayz. bravenak Jun 2016 #130
I see how prevalent your sexism is... k8conant Jun 2016 #139
None of us Clinton supporters chose our candidate based on sex, either. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #146
Thank you bravenak Jun 2016 #147
Your post is quite possibly the most humorous thing I've ever read on this site. jack_krass Jun 2016 #171
I think you'd have to be crazy to support Bernie over Hillary if you're a woman and BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #160
I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree k8conant Jun 2016 #184
I read a lot of adjectives and descriptors Tragl1 Jun 2016 #148
Well, I'm talkin about these other people bravenak Jun 2016 #151
Fair point Tragl1 Jun 2016 #153
Watch Trump quit the race when he slips down to 35 percent bravenak Jun 2016 #154
Honestly Tragl1 Jun 2016 #155
I think you might be right about that bravenak Jun 2016 #157
Too hawkish? Too conservative? Too corrupt? Too Nixonian? Bad Thoughts Jun 2016 #149
I was talkin about sexism, not whatever strawman you wanna tear up bravenak Jun 2016 #152
You seem to want to attribute any opposition to her to sexism k8conant Jun 2016 #185
No. Some of it is rightwing nonsense bravenak Jun 2016 #188
None of those labels seem particularly TRUE either. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #222
They are all debatable Bad Thoughts Jun 2016 #225
Thank you for this, bravenak.. Hillary is too strong and too smart for all of them. She rises Cha Jun 2016 #161
And we rise together bravenak Jun 2016 #162
FFS, most these "sexist" hillary haters LOVE Warren? You deny she is a woman? Nt Logical Jun 2016 #164
They save the nasty stuff for Hillary bravenak Jun 2016 #165
It is not sexist, it is her. Not a great dem. Warren is! Nt Logical Jun 2016 #166
I think both are bravenak Jun 2016 #167
Yes, they all claim to just LOVE the woman who doesn't have the ambition pnwmom Jun 2016 #168
Warren is a real liberal! Hillary is not. All she is is better than trump. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #169
bravenak, thank you, thank you, thank you. pnwmom Jun 2016 #172
You're welcome... bravenak Jun 2016 #173
This is exactly what is happening with the new Ghostbusters trailer as well. MinnesotaRob Jun 2016 #175
I disagree bravenak Jun 2016 #177
John Stuart Mill Whimsey Jun 2016 #176
I need to re read it bravenak Jun 2016 #178
Go back and read chapter 3 Whimsey Jun 2016 #181
Uh huh. Just like claims that the mob helped elect JFK were anti-Catholic. Identical, really, except merrily Jun 2016 #180
Huh? What's your point? Whimsey Jun 2016 #182
My point is that claims of fraud are not sexist. And JFK never played a victim card when merrily Jun 2016 #183
Claims of fraud are also not TRUE. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #211
Claims of fraud or fraudulent claims? Whimsey Jun 2016 #226
What part of "anti-Catholic" did you misread as "sexist?" merrily Jun 2016 #227
I was being purposely obtuse Whimsey Jun 2016 #229
Gee, almost every reply I've been getting from Hillary supporters lately flattens a straw man I neve merrily Jun 2016 #230
I wonder what Freud would say Whimsey Jun 2016 #231
um, o.k. merrily Jun 2016 #232
+1, "Get used to imperfect women being able to do the same exact things as imperfect men" uponit7771 Jun 2016 #186
They better learn to cope bravenak Jun 2016 #194
Its going to take a while, all the "other" people running things is going to drive em even battier uponit7771 Jun 2016 #199
Can't it simply be that Hillary is just too moderate for some of us? BigBoss26 Jun 2016 #187
I never said all opposition is sexism bravenak Jun 2016 #190
You kind of are though. You gave a laundry list of real criticisms and dismissed them all as sexism. BigBoss26 Jun 2016 #201
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2016 #197
Thank you Bravenak!!!!! all american girl Jun 2016 #198
Yes. "Get used to imperfect women being able to do the same exact things as imperfect men... ancianita Jun 2016 #200
"She is going to be Candidate Hillary running against Donald Trump whether you think ..." Scuba Jun 2016 #204
You will have to learn coping skills bravenak Jun 2016 #205
I'm not in your way, and as I've posted here many times, I'll hold my nose real tight in November .. Scuba Jun 2016 #206
No. The op does NOT say it is only sexism bravenak Jun 2016 #207
No, of course not. Scuba Jun 2016 #208
Comparing her to Margaret Thatcher = Sexist? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #224
Comparing her to Thatcher is completely sexist realmirage Jun 2016 #233
No, I don't. nt lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #234
"Perfect" was never a concern. Orsino Jun 2016 #235
This part was a mic drop bravenak Jun 2016 #236
I do think Hillary Clinton became a contender in spite of every cultural barrier... Orsino Jun 2016 #237
There is a difference between a PERSON that is thought to be crooked and too right leaning. Just Seeinghope Jun 2016 #238
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